World is Safer than Ever

[sammichoffate]

Terrorism and recent violence obscured this fact, media with their scare tactics.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-23/world-actually-safer-ever-and-heres-data-prove
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/17537/despite-bloody-2015-the-world-really-is-safer-than-ever
http://capx.co/terrorism-dont-get-the-analysis-wrong/

[Im Still Ballin]

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[nathanjizzle]

the world is pretty safe relative to decades past.

[~primetime~]

yep, it's true

It's just thanks to cell phones and social media and just media in general that we are able to see bad things like never before.

You would think we are headed toward anarchy, the end of humanity, but it is the exact opposite.

[Riddler]

y'all need to check Doomsday's Watch.

https://www.govloop.com/blogs/10001-11000/10752-doomsdayclock.jpg

[Lamar Doom]

Don't tell ISH that man, these kids feed on their click bait sensationalism. Every day is the most important day yet and every event is the last straw and a definitive sign of the times. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! It's also really cute how it's currently a little treehouse game of sharks vs jets, I think the conservatives are the sharks and the liberals are the jets but maybe someone can clarify. And in an election year? Adorable. There's only two types of people in the world and you better pick sides and start posting about it. Thanks ISH, you allow a bunch of simpletons who get their information exclusively from the internet and don't go outside enough to talk themselves in circles and entrench themselves in dramatic opinions. :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[ILLsmak]

It's weird to use stats to say the world is safe, as well as to equate what stats you believe measure 'world safeness' with proof that there's not something wrong in the world right now. We'll see.

-Smak

[sammichoffate]

It's weird to use stats to say the world is safe, as well as to equate what stats you believe measure 'world safeness' with proof that there's not something wrong in the world right now. We'll see.

-SmakPresence of war? Crime rates? Violence against minorities? There's tons of statistics out there.

[Dresta]

Presence of war? Crime rates? Violence against minorities? There's tons of statistics out there.
I briefly went through the stats of the first link, and they are complete bs. I don't know how they're counting war deaths, but they're doing it really badly.

And yeah, the murder rate (in England) was not higher (likely lower) in 1775 than it is now, and the State was minuscule in comparison to today (i.e. things like police didn't exist then). Imagine what England would be like today if you got rid of the police, the millions of security cameras, the hi-tech spying, and all the modern conveniences people now have to distract themselves with.


Such comparisons are disingenuous tbh. Something has clearly become less safe when we now a few hundred thousand (increasingly armed) minions of the State, employed at all times, to keep the peace, just to keep homicide rates the same as they were almost 300 years ago.

[sammichoffate]

I briefly went through the stats of the first link, and they are complete bs. I don't know how they're counting war deaths, but they're doing it really badly.

And yeah, the murder rate (in England) was not higher (likely lower) in 1775 than it is now, and the State was minuscule in comparison to today (i.e. things like police didn't exist then). Imagine what England would be like today if you got rid of the police, the millions of security cameras, the hi-tech spying, and all the modern conveniences people now have to distract themselves with.


Such comparisons are disingenuous tbh. Something has clearly become less safe when we now a few hundred thousand (increasingly armed) minions of the State, employed at all times, to keep the peace, just to keep homicide rates the same as they were almost 300 years ago.I agree, that's not much of a comparison when you don't take context into the equation. I honestly would compare today's violence to post-WWII because of how fked up everything was with all the Empires/Third Reichs/Communism, etc. It's just showing how the sheep are overreacting imo though; we're healthier and living longer than ever before and the global population growth isn't stagnating for a long time. If anything, handling old age pensions and social programs will be a tougher issue than surviving police brutality or freedom to hold firearms.

[Dresta]

I agree, that's not much of a comparison when you don't take context into the equation. I honestly would compare today's violence to post-WWII because of how fked up everything was with all the Empires/Third Reichs/Communism, etc. It's just showing how the sheep are overreacting imo though; we're healthier and living longer than ever before and the global population growth isn't stagnating for a long time. If anything, handling old age pensions and social programs will be a tougher issue than surviving police brutality or freedom to hold firearms.
But the two things are linked: dealing with unsustainable pension and social welfare programs will be a big problem, no doubt, but it will be when such privileges are withdrawn (when there isn't enough money left), that the real underlying problems will come to the forefront. What tells the strength of a society and civil order isn't how well it functions in times of plenty (because almost any order will be stable in such times), but how it manages in periods of acute distress and hardship.

[sammichoffate]

But the two things are linked: dealing with unsustainable pension and social welfare programs will be a big problem, no doubt, but it will be when such privileges are withdrawn (when there isn't enough money left), that the real underlying problems will come to the forefront. What tells the strength of a society and civil order isn't how well it functions in times of plenty (because almost any order will be stable in such times), but how it manages in periods of acute distress and hardship.Agreed, it's a problem that will creep up on the world in just a few decades when world populations will be getting older and older. We're already seeing it in Japan, China, and Germany; yet the US politicians would rather focus on these smoke and mirror political tactics using fear and paranoia.

[9erempiree]

Another stabbing today in France.

[SexSymbol]

If USA hadn't made certain enemies with sand people the world would be actually safest it has ever been.
But you can't call something safe when you can get stabbed randomly or blowned up to pieces by some retard thinking his religion has any truth to it

[9erempiree]

If USA hadn't made certain enemies with sand people the world would be actually safest it has ever been.
But you can't call something safe when you can get stabbed randomly or blowned up to pieces by some retard thinking his religion has any truth to it

This and its happening quite frequently now. There seems to be an attack every week.

Actually, an attack every day.

[pauk]

Another stabbing today in France.

If this was just the 80s or early 90s you wouldnt know about this, even if you somehow found out you wouldnt afford to be on your pay per minute (~2$) 14.4 modem to horribly slowly locate a forum & discuss it and blame Islam/Muslims the entire day & then go to ****** or liveleak etc & fap & learn all about Islam from only ISIS snuff videos... you would be broke... reality is you wouldnt do this, hence you wouldnt be able to become such a ***ed up ignorant racist islamophob you are at the moment... because back then all you would have was books & people to learn from, the koran and/or perhaps muslim neighbours around you to get actual knowledge by facts, socializing & real life in person experience to have the logic, maturity & ration enough to know what Islam (or any religion) really is so you can easily differentiate between a psycho/criminal/lunatic who just so happened to be born muslim (or any religion) once upon a time and a sane muslim (or any religion)........ I bet you would hence be a better person aswell, be a better person to talk to / share knowledge with, even basketball since you would also learn what real basketball was & real Lakers basketball was & became a fan of the efficient unselfish non-chucking-shotjacking non-Kobesque true alphas like Magic/Bird.... and oh, as a Laker fan you would be also be bowing down to a muslim player, oops, arguable GOAT, Kareem...... :)

[ILLsmak]

Presence of war? Crime rates? Violence against minorities? There's tons of statistics out there.

the issue is, to me, is your argument is "The world is safer than ever." We can only imagine, due to context, this is you and/or other people saying that the world is fine/better despite the things that are happening. Because of that, I don't believe violence against minorities stats matter. You can statistically say "These are the positives of today" and we may agree. However, to go from there and say, therefore... because of those things, it doesn't matter if someone blows up the Boston Marathon or there is a coup(fakecoup?) in Turkey.

It's like if the President got assassinated and people came in like... well, let's be real, it's been so long since that's happened and tbh we are winning the war on drugs. Or, a second thing, imagine if people kept trying to assassinate the president and kept getting foiled. Like, they kept getting guns and getting there, but people ended up shooting them or detaining them. Wouldn't that mean the world in fact isn't 'safer than ever?' Even though, statistically, it would show that we are doing well to keep people from committing the act.

The last and most hilarious part, to me, is that people believe that before the explosion of the internet ... like in 1990 we didn't have news... nobody would be upset about the events that have transpired. It would be something "you didn't even hear about." That's nonsense. If anything, some people might have not watched the world news and read the newspaper, and now they are able to see it, but to act like that info would be hidden is superluls.

Or are people saying it's because of forums? Well, like dudes didn't have coffee together and be like hmm... can you believe the shit that happened in the news?

-Smak