Now that Kobe's retired..

[andgar923]

Who's the most skilled perimeter player?

CP3?

It doesn't necessarily mean that the most skilled is the best, but who else has the most skills as a perimeter player?

[Hey Yo]

Has Kobe ever been considered the most skilled perimeter player before retiring 3yrs ago?

[aj1987]

I'm not a CP3 fan, but the guy is one of the greatest playmakers, can shoot like crazy and from anywhere, play offball, post up, and can score at the rim as well. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone else who good at all the above.

Also, even when Kobe was in the league, he wasn't THE most skilled perimeter player.

[AintNoSunshine]

Kobe was never in that discussion anyway. Slightly below average dribbler, average shooter, average passer, average playmaking ability.

[andgar923]

I'm not a CP3 fan, but the guy is one of the greatest playmakers, can shoot like crazy and from anywhere, play offball, post up, and can score at the rim as well. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone else who good at all the above.

Also, even when Kobe was in the league, he wasn't THE most skilled perimeter player.

I agree with CP3 (obviously), he has all the tools, footwork, mid, handles, post game, can give you many many looks offensively.

Aside from Kobe who do you think was THE most skilled perimeter player?

I honestly can't think of one, or am I missing out on someone?

Kobe's skill level was matched only by Paul Pierce and some might argue Carmelo (although Im not too sure about that). And even then, I think Kobe was still better than they were (although Pierce was right there with him).

I think you have the correct idea tho, as many will think that simply having a crossover and shooting a 3 will quality them as being very skilled, which is not the case.

[AirTupac]

Kobe was never in that discussion anyway. Slightly below average dribbler, average shooter, average passer, average playmaking ability.

LOL this guy oozes stupidity :facepalm

[andgar923]

Kobe was never in that discussion anyway. Slightly below average dribbler, average shooter, average passer, average playmaking ability.

STFU

Kobe was not an average in anything you mentioned. He was an elite all time level quality player.

His inconsistencies were a result of his questionable IQ which was guided by his selfishness, but please don't make a fool of yourself by stating he was average.

Kobe when he wanted too could pass with the best, was a playmaker with the best and he wouldn't be able to score the amount he did by simply being an "average shooter".

[Smoke117]

CP3? You mean the most underrated player on ish? Absolutely.

[T_L_P]

Kobe's never been the most skilled player in basketball man.

Chris Paul, although not an overall better player, needed much more skill to be as good as he is. Not only is he 5 inches shorter than Kobe, he's not nearly as athletic.

[NBAGOAT]

CP3 is pretty clear now. His scoring skillset along with playmaking is pretty ridiculous. Kyrie would be up there if we're talking just scoring(playmaking takes skill too).

[Uchmanmamba24]

lmao at the dudes on here saying Kobe wasn't the most skilled perimeter player. No bias, but what couldn't he do?
On offense; he could drive to the basket, shoot the midrange(fadeaway), post up, shoot the 3,Great footwork. You'll really be hardpressed trying to find a flaw in his game. :confusedshrug:.
On defense he was as great as any other perimeter player when playing man on man defense.

[Uchmanmamba24]

It okay to hate Kobe but don't deny how skillful the man was. The least you all could do is admit that. :cheers:

[andgar923]

It okay to hate Kobe but don't deny how skillful the man was. The least you all could do is admit that. :cheers:

At the very least, I'd like to know who they believe was/were the most skilled.

[Stringer Bell]

Kobe was never in that discussion anyway. Slightly below average dribbler, average shooter, average passer, average playmaking ability.

LOL Come on now

[ScalsFan21]

LOL Come on now

I'll tell you what the problem is w/ Kobe.

Too many 40 degree shooting days.

[NBAGOAT]

Kobe is the main option for most skilled in his prime. Main perimeter player I can think of from 06-08 is Nash and you have to value playmaking more to give him the edge. Maybe Tmac or even Pierce have a case if we're looking at Frobe years. Can't really think of any big men up there besides Duncan, Yao, and Webber but don't think any of those guys are above Kobe.

[ScalsFan21]

You know a guy who if you told me in 2000 wouldn't even fit into this convo would've surprised me?

Vince. Sometimes "great athletes" get their potential overhyped just because they're great athletes, but he really did have all the tools...

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe was never in that discussion anyway. Slightly below average dribbler, average shooter, average passer, average playmaking ability.

:facepalm

Either you get one extreme like stalker4life, or you get this BS.

To the question, yeah overall probably CP3. Kyrie's scoring skillset deserves a mention.

[Dragonyeuw]

You know a guy who if you told me in 2000 wouldn't even fit into this convo would've surprised me?

Vince. Sometimes "great athletes" get their potential overhyped just because they're great athletes, but he really did have all the tools...
Yeah, 10 years ago you could never convince me that Vince would still be in the league pushing 40.

[SexSymbol]

Has Kobe ever been considered the most skilled perimeter player before retiring 3yrs ago?
He's been the most skilled player in the league ever since Jordan left.

[Mr Feeny]

He's been the most skilled player in the league ever since Jordan left.

Even a rookie CP3 was more skillfully than the best version of kobe:lol
Ditto Steve Nash who's so far ahead of Kobe skill-wise that he'd be insulted and start vomiting if you brought up this ridiculous question :applause:

[aj1987]

lmao at the dudes on here saying Kobe wasn't the most skilled perimeter player. No bias, but what couldn't he do?
On offense; he could drive to the basket, shoot the midrange(fadeaway), post up, shoot the 3,Great footwork. You'll really be hardpressed trying to find a flaw in his game. :confusedshrug:.
On defense he was as great as any other perimeter player when playing man on man defense.
He was an average 3pt shooter and his best attribute, the midrange shot, he made only 40% of them over his career.

[Mr Feeny]

He was an average 3pt shooter and his best attribute, the midrange shot, he made only 40% of them over his career.32.9% for his career as a 3 point shooter.
I'd say he's slightly below average.

And you're correct. He's mediocre as a midrange shooter.

[Quickening]

Kobe game was hugely based on athleticism which is why he was a mediocre when he initially entered the league, and why he was dog chit in the last 5 years after losing some speed.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe game was hugely based on athleticism which is why he was a mediocre when he initially entered the league, and why he was dog chit in the last 5 years after losing some speed.

:applause:
It's the same reason he was unable to even hit 42% for a season the last 3 years of his career. The moment he lost his athleticism, he was one of the worst players in nba history. 37% and then a 35% season. Just wretched.

[SexSymbol]

Even a rookie CP3 was more skillfully than the best version of kobe:lol
Ditto Steve Nash who's so far ahead of Kobe skill-wise that he'd be insulted and start vomiting if you brought up this ridiculous question :applause:
ugh.
You're weak.
Poverty level trolling

[Quickening]

:applause:
It's the same reason he was unable to even hit 42% for a season the last 3 years of his career. The moment he lost his athleticism, he was one of the worst players in nba history. 37% and then a 35% season. Just wretched.
You know ball :applause: