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AirBonner
07-20-2016, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE]James has also moved past Jordan in postseason value over replacement,*a*box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level player. In other words, James, despite not winning as many championships as Jordan, is the most valuable playoff player of all time. It

warriorfan
07-20-2016, 07:58 PM
Well we know that D Wade is better than Pippen hands down

So therefore, Jordan was able to enhance his teammate's production past their normal level while otoh LeBron decreased his teammate's production from their normal level

Im Still Ballin
07-20-2016, 07:58 PM
King Industries!

SouBeachTalents
07-20-2016, 07:59 PM
Well we know that D Wade is better than Pippen hands down

So therefore, Jordan was able to enhance his teammate's production past their normal level while otoh LeBron decreased his teammate's production from their normal level

LeBron's played the majority of his postseason runs without Wade, and just won a title without him

knicksman
07-20-2016, 08:00 PM
If youre a dumbass, then yes

warriorfan
07-20-2016, 08:00 PM
LeBron's played the majority of his postseason runs without Wade, and just won a title without him

Regardless

That still does not change the fact that LeBron lowers his teammates production below their normal levels

3ball
07-20-2016, 08:45 PM
Regardless

That still does not change the fact that LeBron lowers his teammates production below their normal levels


The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_career_p.html


Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841).
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SouBeachTalents
07-20-2016, 08:53 PM
The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_career_p.html


Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841).
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Damn, Jordan's second option was better than Shaq and his third option better than KG?! Fuccing stacked

AirBonner
07-21-2016, 12:46 AM
The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_career_p.html


Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841).
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There is one ball. Of course stats will take a hit. It also shows Lebron made Kyrie MUCH better.

Nash
07-21-2016, 04:55 AM
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