Cop shoots man trying to protect artistic kid

[juju151111]

https://www.google.com/amp/reason.com/blog/2016/07/20/north-miami-cops-shoot-behavioral-therap/amp?client=ms-android-sprint-us#

Whats the excuse this time

[longtime lurker]

Police apologists like:

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How can we blame the black guy for this one?

[Facepalm]

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[sd3035]

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[UK2K]

Saw this last night...

The video obviously didn't start rolling until after everything important happened, so I won't give my opinion on the incident because obviously, he wasn't laying like that while talking to his patient; but I will say this:


Charles Kinsey: 'Sir, why did you shoot me?'
Cop: 'I don't know.'

If ^that^ much is true, the cop is going to jail for a long time.

[juju151111]

Saw this last night...

The video obviously didn't start rolling until after everything important happened, so I won't give my opinion on the incident because obviously, he wasn't laying like that while talking to his patient; but I will say this:



If ^that^ much is true, the cop is going to jail for a long time.
What important happen? The video was rolling ehile he was on the floor on the floor amd clearly ex0lained to them ut was a toy car. They rifles to scope in so they know it was a rifle.

[UK2K]

What important happen? The video was rolling ehile he was on the floor on the floor amd clearly ex0lained to them ut was a toy car. They rifles to scope in so they know it was a rifle.

I didn't see him get shot in the video I watched. Is it in the OP?

It's pretty ****ing important to see the whole incident, and not just the aftermath. Like trying to solve a crime looking at CCTV footage that only shows a half destroyed liquor store and not the robbery in progress.

Obviously, something happened that caused an officer to draw his gun.

[sammichoffate]

Miami stay winningg

[west_tip]

When people are lying on the ground and being compliant and they still get shot........... :facepalm

Feel bad for that dude, taking special needs kids out into the community can be fraught with difficulty and this is a situation that he was put into not of his own making.


Obviously, something happened that caused an officer to draw his gun.
According to the story that autistic kid had a toy car and a member of the public called 911 reporting that he had a gun so the cops rolled up with that in mind. This is where you have to apportion some degree of blame to the person who called 911, if you mistake a toy car for a gun you are an idiot and you played no small part in creating this situation.

[I.Malcolm]

I didn't see him get shot in the video I watched. Is it in the OP?

It's pretty ****ing important to see the whole incident, and not just the aftermath. Like trying to solve a crime looking at CCTV footage that only shows a half destroyed liquor store and not the robbery in progress.

Obviously, something happened that caused an officer to draw his gun.
Yea, there was a black dude in the street. What's he doing out there? Who knows who he might turn rabid on? Gotta put him down!

[UK2K]

Yea, there was a black dude in the street. What's he doing out there? Who knows who he might turn rabid on? Gotta put him down!
Cool strawman ***...

My guess, it was a rookie or recently appointed officer, who had his finger on the trigger cause he wasn't trained correctly, and shot off a negligent discharge. Probably had a Glock with no safety.

In the Marines, if you're a hot chick, shit like this gets swept under the rug.

[sammichoffate]

Cool strawman ***...

My guess, it was a rookie or recently appointed officer, who had his finger on the trigger cause he wasn't trained correctly, and shot off a negligent discharge. Probably had a Glock with no safety.

In the Marines, if you're a hot chick, shit like this gets swept under the rug.That doesn't make it any better, this guy is an imbecile either way

[highwhey]

Saw this last night...

The video obviously didn't start rolling until after everything important happened, so I won't give my opinion on the incident because obviously, he wasn't laying like that while talking to his patient; but I will say this:



If ^that^ much is true, the cop is going to jail for a long time.
Unless the cop was drunk and set fire to a kindergarten, it's very unlikely the state will prosecute him.

[highwhey]

I see a cop talking to me with a stern tone, guess what I'm doing? Laying the **** down.

GUESS WHAT THIS GUY DID UK? HE LAYED DOWN AND STILL GOT SHOT. what do you suggest he should have done in this case?

[nathanjizzle]

Cool strawman ***...

My guess, it was a rookie or recently appointed officer, who had his finger on the trigger cause he wasn't trained correctly, and shot off a negligent discharge. Probably had a Glock with no safety.

In the Marines, if you're a hot chick, shit like this gets swept under the rug.

i dont get it. you need video evidence of the shooting part and not the persons testimony and some corroborated video evidence, but you want to believe in falacies like the cop was a rookie and let off an unintended round. im not saying thats a bad theory, but your process of logic is totally biased.

[UK2K]

That doesn't make it any better, this guy is an imbecile either way
It does in the eyes of the law.

Intent is a big deal. Ask Clinton.

As far as his job is concerned, it doesnt. He's going to get fired and he's going to be prosecuted. His charges will depend on his intent.

[UK2K]

i dont get it. you need video evidence of the shooting part and not the persons testimony and some corroborated video evidence, but you want to believe in falacies like the cop was a rookie and let off an unintended round. im not saying thats a bad theory, but your process of logic is totally biased.

All I said was I wanted to see what happened before the shoot, and you came up with all that from that sentence. I also said that's most likely what happened (which doesn't exonerate him but you don't care about that because your screaming with emotion through your PC), the two sentences have nothing to do with one another.

I believe your logic is totally biased.

We saw video and 'witness testimony' during the Michael Brown case. I guess you forgot how that turned out.

I apologize for thinking like a lawyer. I should think more like an emotionally unstable child.

[sammichoffate]

It does in the eyes of the law.

Intent is a big deal. Ask Clinton.

As far as his job is concerned, it doesnt. He's going to get fired and he's going to be prosecuted. His charges will depend on his intent.At this point, people are fed up with "the law". That's why this whole police epidemic is happening, people want to believe in the "spirit of the law" and accountability more.

[UK2K]

At this point, people are fed up with "the law". That's why this whole police epidemic is happening, people want to believe in the "spirit of the law" and accountability more.
There's only a police epidemic because the news told you there was. If an epidemic is defined as a .000001% chance of something occurring, then you're on the money.

[sammichoffate]

There's only a police epidemic because the news told you there was. If an epidemic is defined as a .000001% chance of something occurring, then you're on the money.I'm not saying that the media isn't running with this shit, they clearly are and they should fk off if they're not trying to make things better. Just saying that people who want things to change are there, they were blocking the roads and police stations here yesterday protesting ffs: http://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/20/black_activists_occupy_police_union_offices

[nightprowler10]

GUESS WHAT THIS GUY DID UK? HE LAYED DOWN AND STILL GOT SHOT. what do you suggest he should have done in this case?
Did he try being white?

[UK2K]

I'm not saying that the media isn't running with this shit, they clearly are and they should fk off if they're not trying to make things better. Just saying that people who want things to change are there, they were blocking the roads and police stations here yesterday protesting ffs: http://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/20/black_activists_occupy_police_union_offices

So they want cops to not be part of a union?

Best I could make out of this:
[QUOTE]where we are demanding that police give us freedom

[Levity]

thread title brings the lulz

thread content brings the feels

[UK2K]

GUESS WHAT THIS GUY DID UK? HE LAYED DOWN AND STILL GOT SHOT. what do you suggest he should have done in this case?

I don't know, I didn't see what happened before that point. Looks like the cop messed up?

I tell you one thing though, that dude is gonna get a fat settlement. I'm jelly. I'd take one in the leg for that.

[juju151111]

I didn't see him get shot in the video I watched. Is it in the OP?

It's pretty ****ing important to see the whole incident, and not just the aftermath. Like trying to solve a crime looking at CCTV footage that only shows a half destroyed liquor store and not the robbery in progress.

Obviously, something happened that caused an officer to draw his gun.
They already had guns thrown

[Patrick Chewing]

Miami is a different animal all together.


Lawsuit time. Miami has crooked officials left and right. Sue the city. Get rich or die trying.

[Velocirap31]

Cool strawman ***...

My guess, it was a rookie or recently appointed officer, who had his finger on the trigger cause he wasn't trained correctly, and shot off a negligent discharge. Probably had a Glock with no safety.

In the Marines, if you're a hot chick, shit like this gets swept under the rug.

The officer fired 3 shots at the guy and one hit him in the leg.

[UK2K]

The officer fired 3 shots at the guy and one hit him in the leg.

So he's a shitty cop, as well as a shitty shot.

The only thing that matters in the grand scheme of things is:


#CharlesKinsey asked police: "Sir, why did you shoot me?" The response, he says: "I don't know."

Because during an investigation of a shooting, the DA will attempt to frame their state of mind at the time the trigger was pulled.

If the cop did, in fact, say 'I don't know' when asked why he shot the man, then he's likely going to jail for a long time.

Which is what I said in my first post in this thread.

[sammichoffate]

So they want cops to not be part of a union?

Best I could make out of this:


Anti-union isn't a Democrat policy, its a Republican one.

I agree, get rid of all the unions.

That still doesn't validate the notion that there's an 'epidemic' of criminal behavior by cops. I'm sure they do want change, but only at the expense of cops, because you and I both know if they were really concerned about change in their communities, there's plenty of better places to start.

They're not concerned about their community anymore than Clinton is concerned about the well being of blacks in this country; they care, but there's another motive behind it. They just want to protest to get that feeling of 'belonging' to a group. It's the herd mentality. No different than the OWS group full of misfits and rejects who banded together to protest because they've got nothing better to do.Unions need reform, that much is clear. They protect the cops a bit too much imo. Agreed, protest is still within their right to do so tho as long as its within their 1st amendment scope.

That's going a bit too far, but I see your point. There's always the bleeding hearts and actual good citizens who want to better their community, they think this is a way to do that. Then there's the people, as you explained, that don't gaf about anything but themselves and won't admit it because they're insecure af.

[sd3035]

They already had guns thrown

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[Springsteen]

None of this matters, because his friends in the Police Union will back him so he gets a juicy severance check for his actions along with being reinstated next year.

[iamgine]

Just like the autistic kid can't be blamed for his actions, the police can't really be blamed for this. He already drew his gun and there's a black guy lying there. What's he to do, not shoot him?

[PJR]

What does a Black man in America have to do to NOT get shot by the police? :oldlol:

[97 bulls]

I think these officers are flat out scared of black men. Especially with what's going on right now.

And I can't stress this enough. ... so long as people protect and then let go of these trigger happy individuals, this will continue.

[nathanjizzle]

I think these officers are flat out scared of black men. Especially with what's going on right now.

And I can't stress this enough. ... so long as people protect and then let go of these trigger happy individuals, this will continue.

not really. i think it is that superiority complex that police officers have. like they are the law and if you dont obey then you die and its your fault.

[nathanjizzle]

guys, so it comes out that the police officer was aiming for the autistic kid, not the guy on the ground.

http://usuncut.com/news/north-miami-cop-charles-kinsey/

[KyrieTheFuture]

guys, so it comes out that the police officer was aiming for the autistic kid, not the guy on the ground.

http://usuncut.com/news/north-miami-cop-charles-kinsey/
:roll: :roll: :roll:

How do I avoid a media firestorm? I wasn't aiming at the black guy, I was trying to shoot a disabled child three times and accidentally hit a black guy. That's better right?!?!?!

[bluechox2]

GUESS WHAT THIS GUY DID UK? HE LAYED DOWN AND STILL GOT SHOT. what do you suggest he should have done in this case?
:roll: :roll:

[Nick Young]

No excuse. This is some ****ing bullshit.

[Nick Young]

I am grateful this man was not killed. The police who shot him needs to see jail time and lose his badge.

[highwhey]

I am grateful this man was not killed. The police who shot him needs to see jail time and lose his badge.
while i agree wholeheartedly, what are the chances he will be imprisoned? even when cops mess up, prosecutors do not bring down the full weight of the law on them. i can envision the department cutting ties with him and a civil suit being brought to the court, but criminal charges? that's incredibly difficult to do when a cop is the accused.

[Nick Young]

while i agree wholeheartedly, what are the chances he will be imprisoned? even when cops mess up, prosecutors do not bring down the full weight of the law on them. i can envision the department cutting ties with him and a civil suit being brought to the court, but criminal charges? that's incredibly difficult to do when a cop is the accused.
DA always protects cops so the chances are low, hopefully at the least this man gets a multi-million payout from the city, but that will not mean much if his mobility is permanently affected for the rest of his life.

For trying to protect an autistic kid who was holding a truck.

And had his arms up and was lying down and clearly explained the situation.

Bullshit.

[highwhey]

DA always protects cops so the chances are low, hopefully at the least this man gets a multi-million payout from the city, but that will not mean much if his mobility is permanently affected for the rest of his life.

For trying to protect an autistic kid who was holding a truck.

And had his arms up and was lying down and clearly explained the situation.

Bullshit.
this is what needs change. i understand one of the biggest reasons black males are being gunned down is because of their lack of nuclear family values and other factors within the black community. however, the government's unwillingness to prosecute police officers who carried out a criminal act is just shameful and unjust. it creates a big separation between the communities and police.

it's no different than a kid who doesn't get punished while his brother is punished the instant he exhibits bad behavior.

[ILLsmak]

thread title brings the lulz

thread content brings the feels

haha.

It's funny cuz you knew that was what he meant.

-Smak

[Crimsonrain777]

Just like the autistic kid can't be blamed for his actions, the police can't really be blamed for this. He already drew his gun and there's a black guy lying there. What's he to do, not shoot him?

:oldlol: