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JohnMax
07-21-2016, 04:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F7z-vpzCGw
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198503090CHI.html
diamenz
07-21-2016, 08:17 PM
damn. reminds me of terry and the 2011 finals.

lol, nah i joke. 2011 was much worse

love that commentator btw. you could just listen to the audio and know what's going on.
Quickening
07-21-2016, 08:25 PM
terrible basketball, its impressive how far the game has evolved in 30 years...
diamenz
07-21-2016, 08:26 PM
terrible basketball, its impressive how far the game has evolved in 30 years...

it was different, scrub. if you can't appreciate that, then well... you're just young and naive.
Quickening
07-21-2016, 08:30 PM
it was different, scrub. if you can't appreciate that, then well... you're just young and naive.

Yes I appreciate it, like I appreciate watching the amateurs... just funny how archaic it looks compared to todays game, it wasn't that long ago in reality.
diamenz
07-21-2016, 08:33 PM
Yes I appreciate it, like I appreciate watching the amateurs... just funny how archaic it looks compared to todays game, it wasn't that long ago in reality.

to each their own, man. there were some great players, great teams, rivalries and games had back in the day. just because the three point shot wasn't utilized like it is now and the paint was sacred doesn't mean that it's amateur.
SilkkTheShocker
07-21-2016, 08:42 PM
Jordan stans absolutely shook
diamenz
07-21-2016, 08:48 PM
Jordan stans absolutely shook

what thread r u in?

certainly not the lebron/knicks thread where kblaze took a shit on u.
imdaman99
07-21-2016, 10:18 PM
Damn, this is what I imagine Westbrook doing in the 80s but on a nightly basis. Grabbing rebounds and going coast to coast for monstrous dunks. Never even heard of this guy before, but looks like he had major hops.
plowking
07-21-2016, 10:26 PM
it was different, scrub. if you can't appreciate that, then well... you're just young and naive.

It was different. It was also worse.
Goofsta Knicca
07-21-2016, 11:28 PM
Guy was going off like GOATbrook that game. :oldlol:
Kblaze8855
07-21-2016, 11:38 PM
Damn, this is what I imagine Westbrook doing in the 80s but on a nightly basis. Grabbing rebounds and going coast to coast for monstrous dunks. Never even heard of this guy before, but looks like he had major hops.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEAJOF2CdQ0


I compared the two in the topic I made when I made that.

He wasn't really a star...but he had a very modern game.
RRR3
07-21-2016, 11:40 PM
Jordan shooting FT's like Shaq wtf.
ClipperRevival
07-22-2016, 03:25 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=griffda01

Nice. You could tell he was feeling it that night. Griffith was one of the better leapers evers.

But head to head, MJ destroyed him, averaging 20 more ppg (36 ppg vs 16 ppg) in their 12 meetings. MJ might've been a tad shook in that one as a fresh rookie after seeing how confident he saw Griffith was. MJ is human folks.
KingPush
07-22-2016, 03:53 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=griffda01

MJ is human folks.
We know he is. It's the Jordan stans that try to convince us he's not
ClipperRevival
07-22-2016, 04:01 AM
We know he is. It's the Jordan stans that try to convince us he's not

He raised his game to the highest levels when it mattered most (playoffs) and honestly gave the perception that he wasn't at times. Picking one game in his rookie season where a very good SG had a career game against him isn't saying much. Who else gets dissected like that?
3ball
07-22-2016, 04:44 AM
But head to head, MJ destroyed Golden Grif, averaging 20 more ppg (36 ppg vs 16 ppg) in their 12 meetings.


Exactly.

This reminds me of when new fans made a big deal when they found out that Reggie Lewis once blocked Jordan 4 times, even though Jordan averaged 34/7/6 on 54% in all their head-to-head matchups at SG, documented game-by-game here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989
Hey Yo
07-22-2016, 07:33 AM
Exactly.

This reminds me of when new fans made a big deal when they found out that Reggie Lewis once blocked Jordan 4 times, even though Jordan averaged 34/7/6 on 54% in all their head-to-head matchups at SG, documented game-by-game here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989
Regular season doesn't matter.
andgar923
07-22-2016, 08:23 AM
Comparisons to Westbrook are odd.

Grif like most people back then, had a mid range, could move without the ball and Westbrook is just a driver and a chucker.
diamenz
07-22-2016, 08:45 AM
It was different. It was also worse.

it was on the cusp of being 'worse'. the 50's 60's and 70's were blatantly worse.
imdaman99
07-22-2016, 12:34 PM
Comparisons to Westbrook are odd.

Grif like most people back then, had a mid range, could move without the ball and Westbrook is just a driver and a chucker.
So what you're saying is if they played in the same eras, this guy would have been a lot better than Westbrook because driver and chuckers are easier to defend. Westbrook would have averaged 10 pts on 27% shooting in the 80s right amirite? :lol
ralph_i_el
07-22-2016, 05:12 PM
He raised his game to the highest levels when it mattered most (playoffs) and honestly gave the perception that he wasn't at times. Picking one game in his rookie season where a very good SG had a career game against him isn't saying much. Who else gets dissected like that?

The next closest perimeter player In terms of greatness...Bron