Trump gets Pence a plane

[9erempiree]

:rockon:

This will definitely help the campaign.

They are very serious.

https://i.redd.it/2jptec25ozax.jpg

[poido123]

No biggie. :lol


They are celebrating a victory already :roll:



Talk about alpha. No fcks given

[NumberSix]

:rockon:

This will definitely help the campaign.

They are very serious.

https://i.redd.it/2jptec25ozax.jpg
Just so people understand, that isn't Trump's plane with a new paint job. That's an entirely new plane Trump bought for Mike Pence.

And people say a Trump doesn't have $$$.

[poido123]

Just so people understand, that isn't Trump's plane with a new paint job. That's an entirely new plane Trump bought for Mike Pence.

And people say a Trump doesn't have $$$.


You can't knock his genorosity.


No matter how much you have, buying someone a fcking plane is pretty special.


The Donald has many stories of his genorosity, people who recieved anonymous donations when he stumbled accross a good story, or even people within his organisations.


He can say stupid shit on TV to get exposure, but the real Donald is a good guy.

[NumberSix]

You can't knock his genorosity.


No matter how much you have, buying someone a fcking plane is pretty special.


The Donald has many stories of his genorosity, people who recieved anonymous donations when he stumbled accross a good story, or even people within his organisations.


He can say stupid shit on TV to get exposure, but the real Donald is a good guy.
I'm not sure he literally "bought" Mike Pence a plane. Probably rented it from Boeing for 4 months.

[DonDadda59]

Just so people understand, that isn't Trump's plane with a new paint job. That's an entirely new plane Trump bought for Mike Pence.

And people say a Trump doesn't have $$$.

He doesn't. Not anywhere near as much as he claims anyway, which is why he will never release his tax returns.

I'm guessing that's just left over inventory from the bankrupt/defunct Trump Shuttle Inc. (He purchased the 727 fleet via a loan of $380 million from 22 banks).

Back in '09, he tried selling his 727 for pennies on the dollar (http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.com/2009/11/10/want-your-own-boeing-727-donald-trump-is-selling-hischeap/). That was around the time Trump Entertainment casinos were going through a 4th round of bankruptcies.

[Nick Young]

The official theme song of Trump/Pence 2016 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo)

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[poido123]

He doesn't. Not anywhere near as much as he claims anyway, which is why he will never release his tax returns.

I'm guessing that's just left over inventory from the bankrupt/defunct Trump Shuttle Inc. (He purchased the 727 fleet via a loan of $380 million from 22 banks).

Back in '09, he tried selling his 727 for pennies on the dollar (http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.com/2009/11/10/want-your-own-boeing-727-donald-trump-is-selling-hischeap/). That was around the time Trump Entertainment casinos were going through a 4th round of bankruptcies.



Has a nice rustic look no?



http://cdn1.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/11/rip-786x305.jpg




Let me know when you finished digging that hole.



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[bladefd]

I'm not sure he literally "bought" Mike Pence a plane. Probably rented it from Boeing for 4 months.

When Trump gets whooped in November, the jet goes back.

[poido123]

When Trump gets whooped in November, the jet goes back.



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7HoCKlNsolc/hqdefault.jpg

[Riley Martin]

He doesn't. Not anywhere near as much as he claims anyway, which is why he will never release his tax returns.

I'm guessing that's just left over inventory from the bankrupt/defunct Trump Shuttle Inc. (He purchased the 727 fleet via a loan of $380 million from 22 banks).

Back in '09, he tried selling his 727 for pennies on the dollar (http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.com/2009/11/10/want-your-own-boeing-727-donald-trump-is-selling-hischeap/). That was around the time Trump Entertainment casinos were going through a 4th round of bankruptcies.

I believe Forbes has his net worth at $4 billion, while Trump insists he's at $10 billion. He's probably inflating by a lot, but either way, I'm sure he's a billionaire.

[Im Still Ballin]

I believe Forbes has his net worth at $4 billion, while Trump insists he's at $10 billion. He's probably inflating by a lot, but either way, I'm sure he's a billionaire.
Mr. Martin! How goes it. Send my best regards to Kenneth and CleveTown.

[FillJackson]

Just so people understand, that isn't Trump's plane with a new paint job. That's an entirely new plane Trump bought for Mike Pence.

And people say a Trump doesn't have $$$.
Where are you getting this? Also how old is this entirely new plane?

Trump has been funneling campaign contributions into his own companies, so this is just probably more of the same.

[DonDadda59]

I believe Forbes has his net worth at $4 billion, while Trump insists he's at $10 billion. He's probably inflating by a lot, but either way, I'm sure he's a billionaire.

The Donald's biographer, NY Times journalist/editor Timothy O'Brien, in the 2005 Book 'The Art of Being Donald Trump' estimated his net worth to be in the neighborhood of $200 million after extensive and exhaustive research. Mind you, this was before the most recent Trump Entertainment bankruptcy that saw the Taj Mahal go under, only to be bought by actual billionaire Carl Icahn (who bailed the Donald's other AC casino out of bankruptcy as well).

In typical Drumpf fashion, he sued O'Brien for $5 billion. :oldlol:

The judge tossed that case (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8100467&page=1), naturally.

One has to ask himself- why would anyone who is worth billions of dollars have to stoop to fleecing retirees out of their life savings via a fake university ponzi scheme? How many fake Universities does Bill Gates or Warren Buffet operate? :lol

[nathanjizzle]

bought with daddys money. :facepalm

[FillJackson]

I'm guessing that's just left over inventory from the bankrupt/defunct Trump Shuttle Inc. (He purchased the 727 fleet via a loan of $380 million from 22 banks).

No, it's not. The banks took over the Trump Shuttle when he defaulted on the loans. The banks then sold the business to US Air who eventually sold it to American Airlines last year. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Shuttle) The American Airlines Shuttle is still in business.

Trump Shuttle never made a profit.

The Pence plane is a 1998 Boeing 737 and you can buy one for under 4 million according to the listings I just looked at. It depends how many miles it flew. Other 737s from 2000 were about 8 million. A 737 comes in various configurations as well. But it's between 4-8 million. So buying it outright is not out of the question for a campaign.

[FillJackson]

It's funny that the Trump fanboys are making such a big deal out of this. Did they think Tim Kaine would be campaigning by Amtrak or something?

Florida and Ohio are far away from each other.

[nathanjizzle]

poor trump boys, enamored by a 98' with fresh paint.

[Bosnian Sajo]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7HoCKlNsolc/hqdefault.jpg



Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssss, h3h3 in the house!





Insidehoops gone SEXUUAAAAALLL (2016 kissing prank).

[FillJackson]

poor trump boys, enamored by a 98' with fresh paint.
I don't think it's even paint. Look at the picture. It seems to be a type of plastic wrap they put on the plane, that looks like plastic cut away on the floor.

[FillJackson]

yeah, it's a type of wrap

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIL2Dn4BH1z/
Awesome plane for @mike_pence wrapped with #trumppence

[FillJackson]

It's a poly-vinyl-chloride film.
http://www.orafol.com/gp/europe/en/news-reader/items/orajet-3967ac-aircraft-graphic-film-744

Here's some guys putting this stuff on.

http://www.graphicdisplayworld.com/images/stories/Wrapping_World/Application_6.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

yeah, it's a type of wrap

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIL2Dn4BH1z/
Awesome plane for @mike_pence wrapped with #trumppence

good god how pathetic.

[oh the horror]

This campaign put shiny decals on an old jalopy and these fools are impressed by this.


Everything about this guy's campaign is mega cringe. He's the guy that wraps a roll of singles with a 100 dollar bill on top and flashes it around town.

[Patrick Chewing]

Beautiful plane. Gonna make all the other planes in the hangar jealous. Absolutely beautiful.

[NumberSix]

Where are you getting this? Also how old is this entirely new plane?

Trump has been funneling campaign contributions into his own companies, so this is just probably more of the same.
No he hasn't. Use your head.

He hosts his events at venues he owns. Politicians are legally required to pay fair market value for the use of a venue. That's the law. It's not optional.

[FillJackson]

No he hasn't. Use your head.

He hosts his events at venues he owns. Politicians are legally required to pay fair market value for the use of a venue. That's the law. It's not optional.
He hosts his events at venues he owns says the guy. Um, yeah, think that over.

Dude has used campaign appearances on talk shows to argue his Trump University case and flew to Scotland to promote his golf course.

You have to pay fair market value, but the campaign is supposed to separate from Trump inc. This means he is not getting bids for the lowest bidder.

Having campaign offices in Trump Tower is a terrible waste of money for a campaign. Because you are paying market rates to be on 57th and 5th. Unless the candidate is making money off rent. Do you think Trump's plane is the cheapest way to fly? It is not. So you if you are Donating to Trump, something like 20% of the donations are going back to Trump business and you are not getting value for those businesses.

[FillJackson]

I will give credit to Trump for this he forgave his loans to his campaign.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-campaign-finance-20160721-snap-story.html

But through May 31st, he spent at least 15 million dollars of campaign money to business he owns.

[Nick Young]

He hosts his events at venues he owns says the guy. Um, yeah, think that over.

Dude has used campaign appearances on talk shows to argue his Trump University case and flew to Scotland to promote his golf course.

You have to pay fair market value, but the campaign is supposed to separate from Trump inc. This means he is not getting bids for the lowest bidder.

Having campaign offices in Trump Tower is a terrible waste of money for a campaign. Because you are paying market rates to be on 57th and 5th. Unless the candidate is making money off rent. Do you think Trump's plane is the cheapest way to fly? It is not. So you if you are Donating to Trump, something like 20% of the donations are going back to Trump business and you are not getting value for those businesses.
After the wikileak drop, I don't think this is the line of argument you want to be going down.

[9erempiree]

Beautiful plane. Gonna make all the other planes in the hangar jealous. Absolutely beautiful.

This.

In Avionics history this 737 is highly regarded by many pilots.

People are clueless when they are saying this plane is old. I hate to break it to you guys but Boeing and other manufacturers are not pumping out planes every year like they do with cars.

Heck, they don't even make a new model every 5 years.

They design it the best they can ONCE and put them to service for many many years.

Age and years is obsolete when discussing a plane.

Here is NASA's...this particular plane is an icon in avionics.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/NASA_TEST_737-100_prototype.jpg/1024px-NASA_TEST_737-100_prototype.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

Age and years is obsolete when discussing a plane.

no, not obsolete you moron. years is a gauge on how worn a plane may be by how many take offs and landings it has endured. same way you can gauge a cars mileage by how many years its been driven. commercial planes including 747's are usually decommissioned at about 20 years. this plane is 18 years old.

[9erempiree]

no, not obsolete you moron. years is a gauge on how worn a plane may be by how many take offs and landings it has endured. commercial planes including 747's are usually decommissioned at about 20 years. this plane is 18 years old.

:facepalm

Clueless.

[NumberSix]

He hosts his events at venues he owns says the guy. Um, yeah, think that over.

Dude has used campaign appearances on talk shows to argue his Trump University case and flew to Scotland to promote his golf course.

You have to pay fair market value, but the campaign is supposed to separate from Trump inc. This means he is not getting bids for the lowest bidder.

Having campaign offices in Trump Tower is a terrible waste of money for a campaign. Because you are paying market rates to be on 57th and 5th. Unless the candidate is making money off rent. Do you think Trump's plane is the cheapest way to fly? It is not. So you if you are Donating to Trump, something like 20% of the donations are going back to Trump business and you are not getting value for those businesses.
He's paying himself with his own money. :hammerhead:


If "The NumberSix Campaign" is funded by NumberSix and pays "The NumberSix Organization" to use a property owned by NumberSix...... NumberSix has the same amount of money he started with.

It's just free use of his own property with a bunch of paperwork. The idea is that people don't bribe politicians with free use of property. It just happens that unlike other politicians, Trump owns a bunch of properties. But because of these laws, he has to pay himself to use his own property.

[NumberSix]

no, not obsolete you moron. years is a gauge on how worn a plane may be by how many take offs and landings it has endured. same way you can gauge a cars mileage by how many years its been driven. commercial planes including 747's are usually decommissioned at about 20 years. this plane is 18 years old.
Actually, planes keep count of the exact number of take offs, flight hours, etc. and have to go in every 18 months for a check up and to make sure it's up to current standards and regulations.

If a plane is in good shape, it's in good shape, regardless of "years".

[nathanjizzle]

Actually, planes keep count of the exact number of take offs, flight hours, etc. and have to go in every 18 months for a check up and to make sure it's up to current standards.

If a plane is in good shape, it's in good shape, regardless of "years".

ofcourse they keep track of how many cycles a plane has. it is regulated by the government.:facepalm

but as a practical assumption, "years" is still a gauge on how worn a plan can be. If your average commerical plane is decommissioned around 20 years, then you can guess that a plane around 20 years has had that many cycles. hard to understand? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

ofcourse they keep track of how many cycles a plane has. it is regulated by the government.:facepalm

but as a practical gauge, years is still a gauge on how worn a plan can be. If your average commerical plane is decommissioned around 20 years, then you can guess that a plane around 20 years has had that many cycles. hard to understand? :confusedshrug:
No it isn't. They don't guess how "worn" a plane "can" be. They thoroughly inspect EXACTLY what shape the plane is in. If they evaluate that it's in proper shape, it's in proper shape.

And they don't guess how many "cycles" a plane had. They keep records of EXACTLY how much use the plane has had.

[9erempiree]

Also, the aviation community is praising Trump for making a very wise decision by choosing the 737. They are real pilots and thought his choice of plane was a very very smart decision.

Again, Trump is topnotch on every decision.


The plane (built in 1998) is much newer than the ones McCain and Romney used...this plane has transcontinental range and can fly from Boston to San Diego nonstop. The only Republican in the last two campaigns who had a plane anywhere close to new was Sarah Palin (an Embraer 190AR built in 2006 chartered from NYC-based JetBlue).


It makes sense for the Trump Campaign to charter the B-737 they did, for Mike Pence's part of the campaign. As a Charter Pilot, also type rated in the 737, I can say that it was a wise choice.


Trump's campaign is being run like a business should be. Wise and economical choices in everything they do, is the hallmark of the Trump efforts. The use of a 737 from Eastern Charters, is smart. I think that we have a really smart and prudent nominee, who will make a great president!!

[9erempiree]

If the plane is wrapped then :banana:

I was quoted 5k to wrap my M3.

My buddies Range Rover has a 6k wrap.

Wrap cost more than paint and is only needed for texture and shades that paint can't produce. These are very simple colors.

I'm sure its painted.

[nathanjizzle]

No it isn't. They don't guess how "worn" a plane "can" be. They thoroughly inspect EXACTLY what shape the plane is in. If they evaluate that it's in proper shape, it's in proper shape.

And they don't guess how many "cycles" a plane had. They keep records of EXACTLY how much use the plane has had.

:facepalm thats what i just said that they do keep track of cycles and that it is regulated by the government. do you read? im talking about using years as a non technical and practical gauge by a few guys on a forum judging a plane if its old or not. :facepalm good god why do i even talk to you idiots.

[FillJackson]

People are clueless when they are saying this plane is old. I hate to break it to you guys but Boeing and other manufacturers are not pumping out planes every year like they do with cars.

Heck, they don't even make a new model every 5 years.

You're really awful at logic.

Do you think they stop making planes between model years? They are still making new planes all the time.

Additionally there a lots of types of 737s. 737 is whole fleet of different planes with tweaked designs from 1965 to a new model launching in 2017.

There's nothing wrong with the campaign buying an 18 year old plane, they saved themselves like $30 million dollars by doing that.

It's completely goofy to think Trump went out and bought a new plane for 4 months and and it's goofy to be impressed by the campaign buying a plane and putting their logo on it. It's a super weird thing and I don't know why the conservative blogs were so excited by it.

And you mean aviation history, not avionics history.

[FillJackson]

He's paying himself with his own money. :hammerhead:


If "The NumberSix Campaign" is funded by NumberSix and pays "The NumberSix Organization" to use a property owned by NumberSix...... NumberSix has the same amount of money he started with.

It's just free use of his own property with a bunch of paperwork. The idea is that people don't bribe politicians with free use of property. It just happens that unlike other politicians, Trump owns a bunch of properties. But because of these laws, he has to pay himself to use his own property.

It's not free use of his own property. His campaign is spending more per square foot for campaign use at Trump Tower than the Clinton campaign is spending in Brooklyn. Thus the campaign is wasting money.

Trump is also soliciting donations and receiving money from the RNC. :hammerhead:

[NumberSix]

You're really awful at logic.

Do you think they stop making planes between model years? They are still making new planes all the time.

Additionally there a lots of types of 737s. 737 is whole fleet of different planes with tweaked designs from 1965 to a new model launching in 2017.

There's nothing wrong with the campaign buying an 18 year old plane, they saved themselves like $30 million dollars by doing that.

It's completely goofy to think Trump went out and bought a new plane for 4 months and and it's goofy to be impressed by the campaign buying a plane and putting their logo on it. It's a super weird thing and I don't know why the conservative blogs were so excited by it.
Of course. It's a plane. It's not like Boeing just has a bunch new 737s on a parking lot like a car dealership. You order them and your name is added to the list. If you order a new plane, you're not getting it anytime soon.

[NumberSix]

It's not free use of his own property. His campaign is spending more per square foot for campaign use at Trump Tower than the Clinton campaign is spending in Brooklyn. Thus the campaign is wasting money.

Trump is also soliciting donations and receiving money from the RNC. :hammerhead:
You understand that the money Trump makes from "renting" his property to himself, he can put that money right back into his campaign, as if the transaction never happened?

Do you know what the word "fungible" means?

[9erempiree]

You're really awful at logic.

Do you think they stop making planes between model years? They are still making new planes all the time.

Additionally there a lots of types of 737s. 737 is whole fleet of different planes with tweaked designs from 1965 to a new model launching in 2017.

There's nothing wrong with the campaign buying an 18 year old plane, they saved themselves like $30 million dollars by doing that.

It's completely goofy to think Trump went out and bought a new plane for 4 months and and it's goofy to be impressed by the campaign buying a plane and putting their logo on it. It's a super weird thing and I don't know why the conservative blogs were so excited by it.

And you mean aviation history, not avionics history.

:facepalm

They are not designing planes every year bro.

The 737 is an old design that is still produced to this day.

They don't have new models ever year and I don't know why you guys think planes are like cars.

[FillJackson]

I'm sure its painted.
Why are you sure it's painted?

[Nick Young]

I personally don't care if this is a brand new plane or a 50 year old plane.

I don't care if the design was handpainted by Michaelangelo or if it's a printed out decal that peels off in 2 weeks.

As long as it flies safely, and gets the job done, it's good enough.

[FillJackson]

:facepalm

They are not designing planes every year bro.

The 737 is an old design that is still produced to this day.

They don't have new models ever year and I don't know why you guys think planes are like cars.

They have continuously tweaked the design of the 737 since 1965. The next design is the 737-MAX it comes out next year.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/

[FillJackson]

Here's the video of the first flight of the 4th 737-Max ever built from May. They will test it for months before delivering it.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/creating-the-737-max/#/rollout/first-flight-of-737-max-airplane-4-on-may-7-2016