As a staunch Bernie Sanders Supporter

[TomCat]

I am embarrassed.

[COnDEMnED]

If I were a Sanders supporter, that dig Sarah Silverman just did would rub me the wrong way. Sanders supporters don't have to "fall in line" just because Hillary is the only thing left on the Democratic bill.

[9erempiree]

As I mentioned before don't let the establishment tell you what to do.

Don't be scared. You are in control of your life.

A trump presidency is not scary.

Trump is your voice and he will fight for us.

[Patrick Chewing]

Bernie Sanders is no Ted Cruz.




Less than a week later and Ted Cruz looks like a genius. Can you imagine 4 years from now??

Bernie had his chance and blew it. He sold out.

[Facepalm]

As I mentioned before don't let the establishment tell you what to do.

Don't be scared. You are in control of your life.

A trump presidency is not scary.

Trump is your voice and he will fight for us.
When has Trump ever fought for anyone not named Trump?

[Nick Young]

If I were a Sanders supporter, that dig Sarah Silverman just did would rub me the wrong way. Sanders supporters don't have to "fall in line" just because Hillary is the only thing left on the Democratic bill.
Jump in the line Sanders supporters! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic87SfqQAAM)
http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2013/3/26/dayo.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4285902/conga-line-o.gif
This is how the Democratic party leadership sees them.


Bernie supporters:
Bernie betrayed you. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, that is fine, but that doesn't mean you have to give Hillary your vote like the DNC would have you believe.

Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party is a great alternative to Bernie Sanders and has never sold out and never will.
There are more than two candidates in the race.


Hillary is a neocon. She doesn't represent Democratic party values. You do not have to give her your vote.

[NumberSix]

Bernie Sanders is no Ted Cruz.




Less than a week later and Ted Cruz looks like a genius. Can you imagine 4 years from now??

Bernie had his chance and blew it. He sold out.
You must have missed the leak where Ted Cruz colluded with the DNC

[falc39]

I am embarrassed.

Vote third party. I decided that a while ago knowing how bad both candidates were. It's a good feeling knowing that you at least have some dignity that you aren't willing to stoop so low and support a really bad candidate just because you hate the other candidate even more or because another candidate told you to do it.

[LJJ]

Maybe now you understand why people call guys like Bernie and his associates "cucks", and why it's such an appropriate nickname.

The entire party ran a coordinated and corrupted effort to make sure he didn't have any chance of getting nominated from the start. They've effectively stolen millions from him and all his supporters. The corruption runs so deep that all media were in on the anti-Sanders campaign and were coordinating together with the democrats to not get him elected. They attacked and deviled him based on his race, gender and religion.

Yet he's still fully on board and happily swallows the entire load.

[Akrazotile]

Vote third party. I decided that a while ago knowing how bad both candidates were. It's a good feeling knowing that you at least have some dignity that you aren't willing to stoop so low and support a really bad candidate just because you hate the other candidate even more or because another candidate told you to do it.


The whole system really is absurd.

These political rallies with politicians preaching and egging on crowds, while hordes of sheep scream and jump up and down and cheer on cue.

What we should be doing is basically have Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Stein, Paul etc have a series of civil round table discussions about important issues, aired on public television/radio and include each of them on the ballot and have everyone decide for themselves whom they are most comfortable with and then vote for that person. This party shit that the media and establishment are in bed to perpetuate is one of the biggest impedements to progress going on right now.


This year Im voting for Trump because the reality is I do believe practically speaking only he or Hillary can become President and I would rather Trump than Hillary. But Im hopeful four years from now the anti-establishment movement makes further progress and we will have more palatable options on the table. And I dont just mean a more image-friendly candidate from each party. But an array of realistic choices and qualified options.

[gigantes]

I am embarrassed.
why is that?

if sanders had betrayed his party and trump had won, imagine the clusterf-ck that would be for both him and the world.

if sanders had chosen to run as an independent, then you'd have a point.

[Nick Young]

Maybe now you understand why people call guys like Bernie and his associates "cucks", and why it's such an appropriate nickname.

Exactly. Bernie truly earned that nickname today.

He let all of his supporters and his own values down.

All of the money he raised from the people now goes straight in to Wall Street Hillary's war chest. He was nothing but a fundraiser for a woman who represents everything he hates and goes against everything he believes in.

[falc39]

The whole system really is absurd.

These political rallies with politicians preaching and egging on crowds, while hordes of sheep scream and jump up and down and cheer on cue.

What we should be doing is basically have Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Stein, Paul etc have a series of civil round table discussions about important issues, aired on public television/radio and include each of them on the ballot and have everyone decide for themselves whom they are most comfortable with and then vote for that person. This party shit that the media and establishment are in bed to perpetuate is one of the biggest impedements to progress going on right now.

Agreed. What we are going through is exactly what George Washington warned of when it came to political parties and factions. It's absurd. I know some people who I consider to be intelligent completely losing it because they hate the other party so much. Zealots, really. Don't know if I could ever see them as the same anymore. It's incredible to witness this.

[falc39]

I'm not really a supporter of her because of her broader political views, but I am actually a lot more disappointed with Elizabeth Warren out of anyone. She always seemed like a no-nonsense type of politician who at least always did well with the specialty she was good at. This election, my views of her has changed. Seeing her get in twitter fights (of all things) with Trump just reeks of immaturity and unprofessional-ism. Always thought she was the high-road type of person, but I guess not.

I guess we all know the answer to this question now:
Wall Street cash or Elizabeth Warren: Hillary's choice (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/20/wall-street-cash-or-elizabeth-warren-hillarys-choice.html)

No surprise lol

[gigantes]

I'm not really a supporter of her because of her broader political views, but I am actually a lot more disappointed with Elizabeth Warren out of anyone. She always seemed like a no-nonsense type of politician who at least always did well with the specialty she was good at. This election, my views of her has changed. Seeing her get in twitter fights (of all things) with Trump just reeks of immaturity and unprofessional-ism. Always thought she was the high-road type of person, but I guess not.

I guess we all know the answer to this question now:
Wall Street cash or Elizabeth Warren: Hillary's choice (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/20/wall-street-cash-or-elizabeth-warren-hillarys-choice.html)

No surprise lol
why is that a big deal to you? being goaded in to silly statements is pretty much twitter's primary mission, and almost every famous person has fallen prey to it at one time or another. not to mention, increasing the distractions for donald is probably a decent strategy for the dems.

also, the link actually seems to work against your point, since it's talking about an outcome based on warren's integrity and positive accomplishments.

[falc39]

why is that a big deal to you? being goaded in to silly statements is pretty much twitter's primary mission, and almost every famous person has fallen prey to it at one time or another. not to mention, increasing the distractions for donald is probably a decent strategy for the dems.

also, the link actually seems to work against your point, since it's talking about an outcome based on warren's integrity and positive accomplishments.

Not really a big deal to me, just something that surprised me. I'm not a supporter of her, or Bernie for the matter. Nor do I follow those two closely since I already picked my candidate a long time ago. I work at a job where I am considered a professional so it is always off-putting to see people who are supposed to be wiser and in a position that is of much higher prestige fall prey to that.

[west_tip]

You can't fault Bernie too heavily imo. It's the system that is institutionally designed to stifle third party/independent candidacy. We have this ludicrous duopoly whereby if you want to have a legitimate shot at the Presidency you have to run as a Democrat or a Republican.

In order for him to mount a credible campaign he had to become a Democrat and I believe one of the stipulations was that he forfeit his right to run as an independent in the event of losing the primary. My guess he also made a gentleman's agreement to endorse the winner no matter what and being a man of principle he followed through. The DNC therefore had all of the leverage and could undermine his campaign all the way along safe in the knowledge that once defeated he had no recourse.

Akrazolite nailed it up thread when he said the whole thing should be opened up to a broader array of candidates, not just the warm garbage that the Reps and Dems offer up. The fact that the best two bona fide, party endorsed candidates either could muster this election season were Cruz and Clinton serves to show just how ideologically and ethically bankrupt the two parties are.

[west_tip]

As I mentioned one of the things about the lousy two party system is that our choice of President is limited to the D league level talent that the Dems and Republicans produce.

I am hopeful that with Trump's campaign being unimaginably successful more people who have carved out a career outside of government will be inspired to run. An ethically upstanding billionaire who has a track record of philanthropy and business success would be preferable to most anyone that is excreted out from Washington D.C.

[gigantes]

Not really a big deal to me, just something that surprised me. I'm not a supporter of her, or Bernie for the matter. Nor do I follow those two closely since I already picked my candidate a long time ago. I work at a job where I am considered a professional so it is always off-putting to see people who are supposed to be wiser and in a position that is of much higher prestige fall prey to that.
okay i can see your point, and i'd posit that people like her might fall in to that stuff because the rules of the game have changed.

when you have a transparent bully and swindler (etc) upset all the traditional candidates, the definition of "professional" suddenly changes. i think this is pretty much true of society as well. the changes in acceptable behavior have come so far since WWII or thereabouts that we're practically living on a different planet.

[bladefd]

Bernie supporters:
Bernie betrayed you. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, that is fine, but that doesn't mean you have to give Hillary your vote like the DNC would have you believe.

Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party is a great alternative to Bernie Sanders and has never sold out and never will.
There are more than two candidates in the race.

Hillary is a neocon. She doesn't represent Democratic party values. You do not have to give her your vote.

These conservative guys are so shook up now that they know most of Bernie votes are not going to Trump. So desperate that they're praying these votes go to a 3rd party a.k.a in the shredder or simply not vote in November :roll:

[Nick Young]

These conservative guys are so shook up now that they know most of Bernie votes are not going to Trump. So desperate that they're praying these votes go to a 3rd party a.k.a in the shredder or simply not vote in November :roll:
Not praying bro. It's a reality.:cheers:

The DemExit is real.

[9erempiree]

These conservative guys are so shook up now that they know most of Bernie votes are not going to Trump. So desperate that they're praying these votes go to a 3rd party a.k.a in the shredder or simply not vote in November :roll:

Get in line now!:lol

Lets be honest here...does Bernie really believed what he preached? It can be one big ass scam from the DNC to make you believe Bernie is a Dem.

Bernie is independent but he went over to the Dems so he can get you guys to vote for Hillary for whatever reason.

Perhaps he was paid or even given a position.

[Nick Young]

Wow. The Dems are making a last minute bid to throw Hillary under the bust and nominate Bernie! Respect! DNC erupting in standing ovation for the Bernie nomination speeches!
https://66.media.tumblr.com/98c5ba4126296c9ad76f069641363f08/tumblr_nnjlf8QV2s1s8w1b9o1_500.gif


DNC is complete shambles

[bladefd]

Get in line now!:lol

Lets be honest here...does Bernie really believed what he preached? It can be one big ass scam from the DNC to make you believe Bernie is a Dem.

Bernie is independent but he went over to the Dems so he can get you guys to vote for Hillary for whatever reason.

Perhaps he was paid or even given a position.

What choice did he have? The primaries are long over and obviously Hillary won. Bernie decides to take the high road even after losing rather than follow the Ted Cruz path of bitterness, rage, and revenge. How can you not respect Bernie for that?

Yes, we saw some obvious signs of corruption in the latest DNC emails, but what can we do? She has the majority of delegates. Nothing anyone can do at this point to swing the delegation. It is done. No need to make it miserable at this point for everyone. It is what it is! I was a Bernie guy, but what can anyone do? The votes show Hillary had more. Nothing left for us to protest further.

If Bernie doesn't endorse Hillary, both Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters get brought down as Trump suddenly becomes a favorite. If Bernie does endorse Hillary, then he can at least bring the Hillary supporters up even if his supporters get brought down. His supporters are losing here no matter what.. Rather than bring everyone down, just let it be.

[Nick Young]

Yes, we saw some obvious signs of corruption in the latest DNC emails, but what can we do? She has the majority of delegates. Nothing anyone can do at this point to swing the delegation. It is done. No need to make it miserable at this point for everyone. It is what it is! I was a Bernie guy, but what can anyone do? The votes show Hillary had more. Nothing left for us to protest further.
Understatement of the year :roll:


If Bernie doesn't endorse Hillary, both Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters get brought down as Trump suddenly becomes a favorite. If Bernie does endorse Hillary, then he can at least bring the Hillary supporters up even if his supporters get brought down. His supporters are losing here no matter what.. Rather than bring everyone down, just let it be.
You would rather elect a violent neocon with a history of toppling nations and ruining the lives of millions of Muslim people than Donald Trump, a guy who has acted like a big meanie and said some UN-PC things.

Says a lot about you.

[bladefd]

You would rather elect a violent neocon with a history of toppling nations and ruining the lives of millions of Muslim people than Donald Trump, a guy who has acted like a big meanie and said some UN-PC things.

Says a lot about you.

You are an idiot if you think Trump is a better candidate than Hillary with the social perspectives he has taken so far. GTFO, troll!

[atljonesbro]

You are an idiot if you think Trump is a better candidate than Hillary with the social perspectives he has taken so far. GTFO, troll!
Social perspectives LMAO! Hillary undermined or ENTIRE democratic process. She lied square to you and every other democrats face. I honestly don't see how any Hillary supporter had the nerve to talk after the weekend

[Nick Young]

You are an idiot if you think Trump is a better candidate than Hillary with the social perspectives he has taken so far. GTFO, troll!

When is the last time Trump toppled a peaceful nation and sent it in to civil war?



Hillary Clinton Turned a Stable, Developed Nation Into an ISIS Safe Haven. That’s the Real Benghazi Scandal



In 2010, Libya ranked 53rd in the UN’s Human Development Index among 163 countries. With life expectancy at birth at 74.5 years, an 88.4% adult literacy rate and a gross enrolment ratio of 94.1%, Libya was classified as a high human development country among the Middle East and North Africa region.

Libyans once enjoyed a higher standard of living than two-thirds of the planet. Now their country is terrorist stronghold ruled by competing warlords.

And as ISIS continues to lose territory in Syria and Iraq, Libya is increasingly seen as a fertile ground for jihadists. According to The Atlantic:

American intelligence officials estimate that the group’s ranks in Libya have grown to 6,500 fighters, more than doubling since the fall. ISIS first declared its intentions to establish a presence in Libya in 2014 and has been launching attacks ever since. The group is now thought to control 150 miles of Libyan coastline.

Hillary Clinton turned a stable, developed nation into an ISIS safe haven using tactics that would have made even William Randolph Hearst a bit queasy. To whip up support for the Spanish-American War (you’re probably too young to remember it), America’s favorite yellow journalist only managed to invent tame, PG -13 fairytales about Spanish soldiers fondling young Cuban damsels. If Hearst had reported that the Spaniards were having Havana Viagra parties, we could have marched all the way to Madrid. Hopefully President Clinton will remedy this missed opportunity. Pack your bags, ISIS. Next stop: Spain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-turned-nation-into-isis-safe-haven_b_9571956.html


Here is a documentary that details her corruption and failures in Haiti, as well as her pushing through of the anti-environment Keystone oil pipeline. (http://www.breitbart.com/clinton-cash-movie/)

"trump is worser doe. He says mean things against teh womenz doe"

[Godzuki]

why is it a surprise Bernie is bending over a takinig it in the ass? this dude is the embodiment of pandering bitch.

i've never seen a more spineless poohsee in a public office allowing a group of 3-5 women hijack his rally of thousands. then that bitch mf'er goes and hires someone from that very same group to his campaign. how da fukk do any of u fgts support such a spineless poohsee? i seriously dont get it if u have any backbone yourself or have any respect for being a man

this isnt even about Right vs Left, Dem vs Rep, etc. Its about the character of a leader you're electing and y'all mf'ers want one of the sorriest mf'ers alive to be the leader of this country.?...i cant even imagine negotiating with putin lol. bernie would give Putin whatever he wanted to make him stop. thats how bernie rolls...weak as fukk

i swear to God its so Bernie to get fukked in the ass over and over....dude is a walking old ass doormat

[Nick Young]

Ex-Berners, if you believe in Bernie's message, there is still a candidate out there fighting for you! In fact, it is the woman that Bernie stole his campaign platform from. She was actually campaigning and fighting for everything Bernie pretended to fight for 4 years before Bernie ran for president.

[QUOTE]
Dr. Jill Stein Is The New Bernie Sanders

[west_tip]

These conservative guys are so shook up now that they know most of Bernie votes are not going to Trump. So desperate that they're praying these votes go to a 3rd party a.k.a in the shredder or simply not vote in November :roll:

"3rd party aka in the shredder".

This is how the Dems and Republicans got you by the balls. According to prevailing orthodoxy any vote other than one cast for them is a "wasted vote" and so therefore they consolidate their duopoly and there will never be a nationally relevant 3rd political force in the U.S.

[Nick Young]

"3rd party aka in the shredder".

This is how the Dems and Republicans got you by the balls. According to prevailing orthodoxy any vote other than one cast for them is a "wasted vote" and so therefore they consolidate their duopoly and there will never be a nationally relevant 3rd political force in the U.S.
Exactly. Bladefd is already fully indoctrinated and there is no saving people like him.

Long term change will never come to America if everyone else shared his same sheepy follow-the-leader-blindly attitude.


The DNC's entire strategy right now relies on the fallacy that "a vote for a 3rd party is a wasted vote" that is why they are pushing the Trump is a boogieman Hitler/Stalin hybrid so hard at the DNC.

"If you don't vote Hillary, Hiter 2 is coming, and oh yeah he's got a secret alliance with Putin to sabotage us"

Fearmongering of the highest order. Many sheep like bladefd are easily controlled through fear. Luckily, not everyone is.

[DonDadda59]

'Staunch Bernie Sanders Supporter'. You most likely had no idea the man even existed until like 4 months ago. :lol

Now it's time to jump ship onto the next flavor of the month bandwagon. A woman you didn't know existed 2 weeks ago.

A whole nation of ADD sufferers. I blame the internets.

[highwhey]

'Staunch Bernie Sanders Supporter'. You most likely had no idea the man even existed until like 4 months ago. :lol

Now it's time to jump ship onto the next flavor of the month bandwagon. A woman you didn't know existed 2 weeks ago.

A whole nation of ADD sufferers. I blame the internets.
I was making small talk with a chick at the mall Today and we discussed a couple series from the BBC network, she told me she couldn't get into Sherlock Holmes because each episode was 90 minutes long. :facepalm

if she didn't have a fat booty i would've pushed her over the railing.

[DonDadda59]

I was making small talk with a chick at the mall Today and we discussed a couple series from the BBC network, she told me she couldn't get into Sherlock Holmes because each episode was 90 minutes long. :facepalm

The Vine Generation :facepalm


if she didn't have a fat booty i would've pushed her over the railing.

Never trust a big butt and a smile. :no:

[highwhey]

The Vine Generation :facepalm



Never trust a big butt and a smile. :no:
that is my weakness my nig.

i mean, my family would understand if i was killed by a big booty bish. but a chick with a concave ass? i would bring dishonor to the family name.

[Nick Young]

'Staunch Bernie Sanders Supporter'. You most likely had no idea the man even existed until like 4 months ago. :lol

Now it's time to jump ship onto the next flavor of the month bandwagon. A woman you didn't know existed 2 weeks ago.

A whole nation of ADD sufferers. I blame the internets.
Now is as good a time as any to learn about the Queen of Thorns, the Based Dr. Jill Stein of House Green

http://www.pinellasgreens.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/jill2.png

https://mrmilitantnegro.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/12140996_1043579822348874_8057099768291235956_o_15 41163618.png

http://65.media.tumblr.com/081cf422a3231d31d3158b11600ddbe6/tumblr_o6ityqGe801qinrtgo1_500.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ff/a1/6b/ffa16b315abcd09da06497d6a372a283.jpg
Trust her. She's a Doctor.

[Cleverness]

https://s31.postimg.org/8p52jl1cr/bernie_sanders.jpg

[TheMan]

Trumpturds legit angry that Bernie has wholeheartedly endorsed HC :lol

They know a unified Dem Party rolls Drumpf.

[dude77]

https://s31.postimg.org/8p52jl1cr/bernie_sanders.jpg

after this, it's no surprise ..

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h361/nighttimer/sanders_black_lives_matter_zpsub5i5rih.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/nighttimer/media/sanders_black_lives_matter_zpsub5i5rih.jpg.html)

and people expected cuck bernie to get anything done as president ? .. they would've just told him to stfu and get in line and his little bitch ass would have said 'yes sir'

[dude77]

Trumpturds legit angry that Bernie has wholeheartedly endorsed HC :lol

They know a unified Dem Party rolls Drumpf.

:oldlol: baghdad bob makes another appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXl1GkWWGmA

[Lamar Doom]

I voted for Nader and I really do think it was a waste of time. He didn't get realistically close to the 5% and there was a much stronger "vote third party" buzz than Jill Stein has going from what I can tell. Hard to get excited about either of the two we're supposed to pick between. Just remember how little it will likely impact your life either way.




What we should be doing is basically have Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Stein, Paul etc have a series of civil round table discussions about important issues, aired on public television/radio and include each of them on the ballot and have everyone decide for themselves whom they are most comfortable with and then vote for that person.



This. Current setup is convoluted pageantry.

[Nick Young]

Trumpturds legit angry that Bernie has wholeheartedly endorsed HC :lol

They know a unified Dem Party rolls Drumpf.
Not angry...more like disappointed.
Also dude, your party is in disarray, a mass demexit is planned, and the DNC was half empty yesterday. Now isn't exactly the time to be gloating.

If the green party upsets you, don't worry, Stein currently has only 3% of the vote

[gigantes]

sounds like you sanders supporters can also pass a healthy dose of blame amongst yourselves for letting your guy down:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12554598&postcount=2424

[DonDadda59]

Bernie lost technically, but he won. He forced the Democratic party to move further left than they had originally planned. Hillary couldn't get his endorsement until she adopted some of his key policy positions.

Now her Presidential platform and that of the Party as a whole includes free In-State College tuition for any family making $125K or less (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/) and Single Payer/Universal Healthcare (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/).

[Nanners]

I voted for Nader and I really do think it was a waste of time. He didn't get realistically close to the 5% and there was a much stronger "vote third party" buzz than Jill Stein has going from what I can tell. Hard to get excited about either of the two we're supposed to pick between. Just remember how little it will likely impact your life either way.

Nader would have been a fantastic president tho, I wont blame anyone for voting for him

I am not impressed at all by Jill Stein but shes still better than all the other options

[Jameerthefear]

harambe is more relevant than jill stein

[Nanners]

harambe is more relevant than everyone

[embersyc]

I voted for Nader and I really do think it was a waste of time. He didn't get realistically close to the 5% and there was a much stronger "vote third party" buzz than Jill Stein has going from what I can tell. Hard to get excited about either of the two we're supposed to pick between. Just remember how little it will likely impact your life either way.

I also voted Nader in 2000. I don't view my vote as wasted, I voted for who I wanted to be president and they lost. Similar to 2004 when I voted for Kerry.

Better to vote for what you want and be disappointed in the results, than to vote for what you don't want and be disappointed in the results.

That said, I could never vote for Jill Stein after all the anti-vax, anti-gmo, anti-science shit she's been pumping out lately. If Bernie had gone to green party, I would have threw him a vote.

[Terahite]

I also voted Nader in 2000. I don't view my vote as wasted, I voted for who I wanted to be president and they lost. Similar to 2004 when I voted for Kerry.

Better to vote for what you want and be disappointed in the results, than to vote for what you don't want and be disappointed in the results.

That said, I could never vote for Jill Stein after all the anti-vax, anti-gmo, anti-science shit she's been pumping out lately. If Bernie had gone to green party, I would have threw him a vote.

Yeah all that "anti-gmo" propaganda has really been a thorn in my side for a long time... :facepalm (you do realize Nader has similar views on the subject?)

If anything you just completely sold me on Jill Stein. If Trump weren't in the race she would get my vote.

[DeuceWallaces]

I voted for Nader and I really do think it was a waste of time. He didn't get realistically close to the 5% and there was a much stronger "vote third party" buzz than Jill Stein has going from what I can tell. Hard to get excited about either of the two we're supposed to pick between. Just remember how little it will likely impact your life either way.




This. Current setup is convoluted pageantry.

The two party system at least creates a greater level of harmony among voters. With 5 candidates you'll have 75% of the country saying I didn't vote for this asshole, whereas now you have only 45% of people saying I didn't vote for this shit.

Moreover, there's a much greater chance of ending up with a Trump/Cruz/Nader in a populist system. I am a hard core liberal/socialist/environmentalist but I at least recognize that we're living in a large society and you can't just force your "radical" ideals down the throat of the other 65% of the population because you won an election with 38% of the vote.

People are all pissed off about Hillary-Trump, but this is by far the most progressive platform the democrats have had in my lifetime. I'm quite happy with how the Bernie "movement" ended. And if his "bros" want a more progressive platform in the future maybe they'll get their asses out there and actually vote up and down the ticket. I think there's evidence they barely got out for him, let alone voting progressives in all the primaries that just took place this week or coming out in off years.

[gigantes]

Nader would have been a fantastic president tho, I wont blame anyone for voting for him
i have no idea, really. it's highly, highly debatable IMO.

anyway, i did the most volunteer work i've ever done for nader / green party in the 2000 GE, back when i was in philly. that involved surprisingly more violent encounters than i would have imagined... but then i was pretty young and naive about such things.

PA wound up voting gore IIRC, so i'm glad i didn't help screw things up in the state. but on the whole, the US vote for nader in 2000 arguably created the worst chain reaction of events that the modern world has ever seen... ones which we're still paying for in umpteen-number ways, i think.

i'm not sure i have any particular point here, but whatevs.

[kNIOKAS]

PA wound up voting gore IIRC, so i'm glad i didn't help screw things up in the state. but on the whole, the US vote for nader in 2000 arguably created the worst chain reaction of events that the modern world has ever seen... ones which we're still paying for in umpteen-number ways, i think.

i'm not sure i have any particular point here, but whatevs.
What's that chain reaction you're hinting at? I'm thoroughly uneducated

[embersyc]

Yeah all that "anti-gmo" propaganda has really been a thorn in my side for a long time... :facepalm (you do realize Nader has similar views on the subject?)

If anything you just completely sold me on Jill Stein. If Trump weren't in the race she would get my vote.

Nader had views that GMO products should be labeled so that consumers can make their own choices, and that companies like Monsanto should not be able to patent seeds. That isn't being anti-gmo.

First off, nothing in the modern human diet is natural. Every thing we consume has been genetically modified via thousands of years of artificial selection. GMOs can help eliminate world hunger, by making it easier to grow in harsh environments. Eliminate the widespread use of harmful pesticides by making plants that are insect resistant. On a long term scale, eliminate the use the growth hormones in meats, and one day even lead to meat products that don't come from killing animals. It's flat out stupid to completely oppose them.

[Jasper]

I would be a supporter if he was running mate to Clinton

[TheMan]

What's that chain reaction you're hinting at? I'm thoroughly uneducated
I think he means that Nader cost Gore the presidency. Gore lost FL by 500 votes and most of the thousands of votes Nader got in FL would've gone to Gore...

Then the worst presidency in US history happened.

[Nick Young]

Then the worst presidency in US history happened.
Jimmy Carter beat Al Gore?:confusedshrug:

[gigantes]

Then the worst presidency in US history happened.
...which cost the USA a fortune and changed the world for the worst. like, nightmarishly for the worst.

i'm going to sound like a typical ISH conspiracy wingnut when i say this, but IMO just about everyone on earth has quite literally lost years off their lives because of that doofus getting elected.

[Terahite]

...which cost the USA a fortune and changed the world for the worst. like, nightmarishly for the worst.

i'm going to sound like a typical ISH conspiracy wingnut when i say this, but IMO just about everyone on earth has quite literally lost years off their lives because of that doofus getting elected.

You are talking about the neocon puppet GWB whose reign was disastrous, yet you are endorsing Kill Bot who is a neocon puppet.

[gigantes]

You are talking about the neocon puppet GWB whose reign was disastrous, yet you are endorsing Kill Bot who is a neocon puppet.
i don't know where you got that idea, but no, i'm not endorsing a killer robot or anyone else. the effective choices this election are easily some of the most unattractive in US history.

also, i'm guessing you're really in to comic books and video games.

[Nick Young]

You are talking about the neocon puppet GWB whose reign was disastrous, yet you are endorsing Kill Bot who is a neocon puppet.
These kids don't under what neoconservatism is or what it means.

The Ministry of Love generation.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I'm a Hillary voter because I have no other choice, but I am not a Hillary supporter. Bernie Sanders is my president.

[9erempiree]

Possible brain https://regated.com/2016/08/hillary-clinton-revealed-serious-health-issues-possible-brain-damage/

[poido123]

I'm a Hillary voter because I have no other choice, but I am not a Hillary supporter. Bernie Sanders is my president.



How can you vote Hillary when Hillary was behind the rig job of the primaries against Bernie?


Don't vote. That's the respectable thing to do.

[TheMan]

How can you vote Hillary when Hillary was behind the rig job of the primaries against Bernie?


Don't vote. That's the respectable thing to do.
:oldlol:

[TomCat]

How can you vote Hillary when Hillary was behind the rig job of the primaries against Bernie?


Don't vote. That's the respectable thing to do.


He's a bernie supporter. They have no integrity

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE]Julian Assange Confirms Sanders Was Threatened

Julian Assange has confirmed that Bernie Sanders was threatened into pulling out of the Democratic race in July.

During a recent interview with Australian journalist John Pilger, Assange said that Bernie Sanders was forced to drop out of the race due to threats from the Clinton campaign.

Assange