France hostage situation: Priest throat slit open by two Islamists

[poido123]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html?ito=social-facebook

[StephHamann]

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with Islam

[Bourne]

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with Islam

Did you read the article or did you defend islam blindly?

[poido123]

Did you read the article or did you defend islam blindly?


Bro, he's against Islam in Germany.


Hard to read sarcasm in text :lol

[NumberSix]

Let in a bunch of Muslims and now there's jihad attacks on a daily basis.

Who could have possibly predicted this happening?



#everybody

[poido123]

Let in a bunch of Muslims and now there's jihad attacks on a daily basis.

Who could have possibly predicted this happening?



#everybody



We should never speak out or criticise Islam in public, for they cannot control their own emotions and cause harm to people.


This is seriously the mentality of the left. It is our fault for provoking them to kill us.

[Akrazotile]

Let in a bunch of Muslims and now there's jihad attacks on a daily basis.

Who could have possibly predicted this happening?



#everybody


#NotAllVoters :( :facepalm

[dude77]

and clinton and obama wanna keep letting in thousands and thousands of people from that region .. so this shit will become the 'norm' here in a few years .. and everyone will be crying and wondering 'why is this happening here' .. ISIS declared war on France because they have soldiers embedded in there and resources to do the damage ..


TRUMP 2016

[dude77]

86 yr old priest .. man to hell with these people .. time to unleash the devil on these cockroaches

[dude77]

one of the attackers was on house arrest for attempting to travel to syria or not sure if he got to go there .. but anyways, he should've been thrown out of the country the minute they found out he was doing that .. the guy is anti France so WTF WOULD YOU ALLOW HIM TO BE THERE .. but being a bunch cucks, they let him stay and now this happened

[dude77]

and this fkn ***** hollande now looks like a jerk off everytime he comes out with one of his little press confs after each of these attacks .. fkn embarrassing .. dude should go into hiding, not hold press conferences

[alenleomessi]

france and germany are such cucks.. this shit will keep going unless a terrorist goes boom boom in russia

[masonanddixon]

france and germany are such cucks.. this shit will keep going unless a terrorist goes boom boom in russia

That will never happen. Russians don't **** around.

[poido123]

and this fkn ***** hollande now looks like a jerk off everytime he comes out with one of his little press confs after each of these attacks .. fkn embarrassing .. dude should go into hiding, not hold press conferences



It won't stop.


If it was going to stop, you would see governments making serious change after the recent terrorist attacks. The truth is, they are too scared and paralysed to do anything unpopular or for the better good of the country.


How many have to die? Maybe a 100 doesn't make enough noise. Maybe a terrorist attack needs to be in the tens of thousands before we see some serious action, because right now the response is a joke. No amount of French flags on facebook is going to stop these religious crazed psychopaths from carrying out more attacks.

[Long Duck Dong]

It's getting to a point that even our resident Islamic apologists have given up defending their religion that people are killing in the name of.

[Long Duck Dong]

To put icing on the cake he yelled "Allah Akbar!" before attacking.

Those have to be the 2 most feared words in Europe right now.

[UK2K]

To put icing on the cake he yelled "Allah Akbar!" before attacking.

Those have to be the 2 most feared words in Europe right now.
Right before 'open borders'.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's time....


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b7/b1/e0/b7b1e065bb438b0b58ec00395431bc70.jpg

[masonanddixon]

Media coverage of this is ****ing hilarious.

Either outright ignoring the severity of the incident by omitting the religion of the murderers or putting supposed ISIS followers in inverted commas.

[poido123]

The people are desensitizing to the frequency of the attacks and the media knows it.


They will continue to ride this under the rug like an inconvenient truth and pretend like everything is ok.

[Raymone]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36892785

[Dresta]

One attacker is reported to have been known to French police, and had tried to enter Syria last year.


Should have been deported already.

[Nick Young]

'IS soldiers'

These BBC Newspeak headlines have become unbearable.

[Im Still Ballin]

This has 100% NOTHING to do with Islam

CONFIRMED

[Bourne]

Should have been deported already.

trying to ENTER syria? only two reasons for that..

[Long Duck Dong]

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. In times like these we need to show solidarity and collective calm"

French President 7/14/2016

Cuck confirmed

[sd3035]

This problem was caused by western politicians. They armed and funded terrorist groups to help their geopolitical regime change goals, attacked several middle eastern countries, then opened their borders to the victims of their wars and their extremist terrorist "friends" for cheap labour.

Who couldn't see this coming :facepalm

[9erempiree]

Nothing to see people.

We are a safer world.

[pauk]

Sorry but "Islamists" dont do that, especially not against the people of the book in the house of God & Jesus ("Allah" & "Issah" in Arabic who "Islamists" believe in, the more you know)....... Psychos however do, who just so happened to be born whatever... IS have their own ideology, Islam it is not...

Sorry, just dont like to put "muslim" or "islam" next to any psycho, for the same reason i dont like to call KKK "christians", or any psycho/criminal like that... find that offensive... especially when it comes to "Islamic" State, who have killed more actual "Islamists" than anything else...

[sd3035]

Sorry but "Islamists" dont do that, especially not against the people of the book in the house of God & Jesus ("Allah" & "Issah" in Arabic who "Islamists" believe in, the more you know)....... Psychos however do, who just so happened to be born whatever... IS have their own ideology, Islam it is not...

Sorry, just dont like to put "muslim" or "islam" next to any psycho, for the same reason i dont like to call KKK "christians", or any psycho/criminal like that... find that offensive...

I guess you can tell they're not followers of Islam by their name "Islamic State"

good call

[Nick Young]

Sorry but "Islamists" dont do that, especially not against the people of the book in the house of God & Jesus ("Allah" & "Issah" in Arabic who "Islamists" believe in, the more you know)....... Psychos however do, who just so happened to be born whatever... IS have their own ideology, Islam it is not...

Sorry, just dont like to put "muslim" or "islam" next to any psycho, for the same reason i dont like to call KKK "christians", or any psycho/criminal like that... find that offensive... especially when it comes to "Islamic" State, who have killed more actual "Islamists" than anything else...


Islamism, also known as Political Islam (Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎‎ islām siyāsī), is an Islamic revival movement often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt "to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.

[9erempiree]

The world is a safer place.

EDIT: Sorry I've been watching a certain soap opera on CNN.

[Dresta]

So one of these guys wore an electronic tag and was under observation for trying twice to enter Syria to join IS, and the other was on a terrorist watch list.

Why do we keep hearing from the French President that the country is at war with IS, when it gives people who tried to go and join IS a slap on the wrist? Why hadn't this person been stripped of his citizenship and deported or tried for treason? If they are at war then how is this not treason?

[pauk]

I guess you can tell they're not followers of Islam by their name "Islamic State"

good call

I guess you can tell i am an NBA player & Kobe Bryant by my jersey "Bryant"

good call

Can you call yourself Kobe and think you are a Kobe despite not looking like or acting/playing like Kobe etc.? Ofcourse you can... but you aint Kobe or a NBA basketball player, it just means you wished you was and/or perhaps wished the real Kobe & what a NBA basketball player is met YOUR criteria of that... this thinking means you already are a psycho & people call you out for it, it bothers you so much that you now gather other individuals who think the same way you do, create your own ideology/criteria of what Basketball is & start eradicating all the nay sayers & hunt to kill Kobe himself & all other competition....

I myself think i am Jordan, the next day i might be Gretzky, no plans yet... we shall see... considering your logic, you must call me that & beg for autograph... ok sd3035?

[Nick Young]

I guess you can tell i am an NBA player & Kobe Bryant by my jersey "Bryant"

good call

Can you call yourself Kobe and think you are a Kobe despite not looking like or acting/playing like Kobe etc.? Ofcourse you can... but you aint Kobe or a NBA basketball player, it just means you wished you was and/or perhaps wished the real Kobe & what a NBA basketball player is met YOUR criteria of that... this thinking means you already are a psycho & people call you out for it, it bothers you so much that you now gather other individuals who think the same way you do, create your own ideology/criteria of what Basketball is & start eradicating all the nay sayers & hunt to kill Kobe himself & all other competition....

I myself think i am Jordan, the next day i might be Gretzky, no plans yet... we shall see... considering your logic, you must call me that & beg for autograph... ok sd3035?


No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).[2]


Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact or when used in certain kinds of moral and practical reasoning.[3]

Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[4][5][6] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.


appeal to emotion
You attempted to manipulate an emotional response in place of a valid or compelling argument.

Appeals to emotion include appeals to fear, envy, hatred, pity, pride, and more. It's important to note that sometimes a logically coherent argument may inspire emotion or have an emotional aspect, but the problem and fallacy occurs when emotion is used instead of a logical argument, or to obscure the fact that no compelling rational reason exists for one's position. Everyone, bar sociopaths, is affected by emotion, and so appeals to emotion are a very common and effective argument tactic, but they're ultimately flawed, dishonest, and tend to make one's opponents justifiably emotional.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion


Please refrain from logical fallacy when attempting to make an argument in the future. Thank you.

Thank you.

[COnDEMnED]

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. In times like these we need to show solidarity and collective calm"

French President 7/14/2016

Cuck confirmed
I'm not surprised. Could you realistically expect to hear that from ANY other world power leader? Other than Obama.

[pauk]

Islamism, also known as Political Islam (Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎‎ islām siyāsī), is an Islamic revival movement often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt "to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.

I know, its just not my criteria, i dont see the logic in it, i dont call any criminal/psycho/evil monster "Christian/Jew/Muslim", those words dont belong there in any damn way... what they do is the complete opposite... im sorry... thats all im saying... an "extreme Christian/Jew/Muslim" or "Christianism" or "Jewism" or "Islamism" is somebody who is uber religious, heck of annoying sure... but wouldnt hurt a fly, not even mentally...

[Nick Young]

I know, its just not my criteria, i dont see the logic in it, i dont call any criminal/psycho/evil monster "Christian/Jew/Muslim", those words dont belong there in any damn way... what they do is the complete opposite... im sorry... thats all im saying... an "extreme Christian/Jew/Muslim" or "Christianism" or "Jewism" or "Islamism" is somebody who is uber religious, heck of annoying sure... but wouldnt hurt a fly, not even mentally...


No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).[2]

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[pauk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Please refrain from logical fallacy when attempting to make an argument in the future. Thank you.

Thank you.

How the **** is that similar? Being scottish is a nationality or ethnicity... its no ideology delivered by GOD, there is no strict rules / requirements / commandments / pillars / principles to what a Scotsman is in very details.... there is however for all 3 Abrahamic religions (Jewish/Christian/Muslim) for example...

Yes, PLEASE refrain from logical, rational fallacy when attempting to make an argument in the future. THANK YOU!

Now me as Kobe Bryant i say go away and watch my youtube highlights.

[Nick Young]

How the **** is that similar? Being scottish is a nationality or ethnicity... its no ideology delivered by GOD, there is no strict rules / requirements / commandments / pillars / principles to what a Scotsman is in very details.... there is however for all 3 Abrahamic religions (Jewish/Christian/Muslim) for example...

Yes, PLEASE refrain from logical, rational fallacy when attempting to make an argument in the future. THANK YOU!

Now me as Kobe Bryant i say go away and watch my youtube highlights.


strawman
You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.


the fallacy fallacy
You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong.

It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments.



tu quoque
You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.

Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

:cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

Sorry but "Islamists" dont do that, especially not against the people of the book in the house of God & Jesus ("Allah" & "Issah" in Arabic who "Islamists" believe in, the more you know)....... Psychos however do, who just so happened to be born whatever... IS have their own ideology, Islam it is not...

Sorry, just dont like to put "muslim" or "islam" next to any psycho, for the same reason i dont like to call KKK "christians", or any psycho/criminal like that... find that offensive... especially when it comes to "Islamic" State, who have killed more actual "Islamists" than anything else...


http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif

[NumberSix]

Should have been deported already.
Should have never been in the country in the first place.

[dude77]

2011 picture of 'isis soldier' who slit throat of priest .. 19 yrs old now .. that's the pic they had, no current .. what a fkd up end to such a long life

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/00/369CEFCD00000578-3709718-Adel_Kermiche_pictured_in_2011_19_has_been_named_a s_one_of_the_t-a-5_1469575291346.jpg

[Akrazotile]

Vaguely remember hearin somethin about this. Cant remember if it was France or Germany.

Is it true?

[COnDEMnED]

I saw the link in the thread, but I didn't click. Troublesome to say the least.

[Akrazotile]

:oldlol:

Nuff respect to Mista McClaskey.

E-beefs and mindrapes aside he was a pretty well rounded guy with some interests I can relate to. I didnt appreciate it back then but in hindsight I think he's actually a prett cool dude, with a few posting eccentricities that dont readily endear him to people via the online medium. The same could be and frequently is said of me, which Im fine with.


Wherever U R LOJ... Keep it thick hom-e :rockon:



Anyway, what's up with these muslims? Anyone hear any newz?

[greymatter]

You little turd... shut yo mouf ... LOJ aint been in another mental department or chambers for a good year and a half now... just the dumb drink 'til I act a fool these days... wont even take a shotgun from Kind/B if it were right in front of me. No schrooms, no nothing... Just the oh so commonplace alcohol to help me pamper the pain from this fu*ked up world we all live in but once all is said and done the booze will be replaced with a bong.... bong... of what? God. Hit that shit mang! Hit the GoD bong! suck it in ... hold it! ... keep holdin it ... ok ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppphah.... yeah mang.... God be on that mega i-LL shit...

I mean after all, it's a 'natural' plant... and of course our resident rosie cheeks Ken Shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrunkkken can appreciate this at least. Yeah, I gets down with the herb these days... plus the alcohy... hey... it works for me... ironic... 'cause when I was a young buck age 13 - 15 when I was sippin' on 40's and ditching school to get blazed etc etc....

Yep... that snake sumbeech Satan got ahold of the LOJ and crippled homey for many years... internal damage... family relations gone estrange fault of my own, people being disappointed... like WTF is wrong with Josh?! This is NOT the Josh we know! ...

Yeah.. Satan got a hold of me back then something fierce... and still today, he there, but he's being more sneaky and laid back type steez 'cause that fu*ker works like that... so I got to keep my mental sharp, and along the way... do all I can to show the WORLD that GOD is real... and if that starts here @ ISH then so be it... but my real destiny in life is to be a messenger of our ultimate loving Father.

So I'll have to stop selling car insurance as starface claims I do, and I'll just be a all-day everrrrrrr day Bible Preacher in YOUR FACE 214/7 ... and why? Well, cause God wants to mind rape you, and it's in your best interest anyway, so just STFU all you haterz... and just do the right thing... and say...

LOJ... you sir, are the GOAT... bar nun, what? nun don't be at the bar, but bank that LOJ got enough game to Meitocdes at best 8.5 MY WIFE! to to the side, and have her suck my cawk in the baf room... I'm checking texts... she is going downtown... to town... OHHHHH damn baby slow down... enough... hold up! ...

Ok ... so my deek went soft... all because that ****** GOBB making threads about stupid shit and still sweeping sheet at the shit factory... and it makes me sad. Very sad. So .... here we go. LOJ the best poster of all time...

deek rock hard again.. throbbings yeah you know all it would take is a lick or a touch of that rocket ship and then

BOOOOOOM BLASST OFF!!!!!!!!!

Good night... all you fa gz ... LOJ he really is, the greatest of what? Yeah, all time.

Didn't bother reading. Anyone found a decent app that translates retard?

[FKAri]

Slight tangent as I'm not sure if these guys were refugees/migrants but why does Europe have to pay for the United States' failed foreign policies and power mongering?

[bluechox2]

i bet tomorrow a pregnant woman about to give birth jihadi style

[Dresta]

Slight tangent as I'm not sure if these guys were refugees/migrants but why does Europe have to pay for the United States' failed foreign policies and power mongering?
European leaders are not so blameless in this. I dislike Obama as much as the next guy, but Cameron and Hollande were just as bad regarding the Libyan and Syrian escapades, if not worse.

Doesn't mean their people should have to suffer though, because these were decisions made without the consent or support of the people, and were pushed through by a media, political and bureaucratic elite that just seems incapable of grasping how massively it is despised by most people (particularly working class people).