Where does Ray Allen rank among your All Time Clutch Shooter?

[AintNoSunshine]

Not great at creating but off of a catch and shoot there is no one I would trust more than Ray Allen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqmjFlW6AY

And of course the last play was in my book top 5 most clutch shots in NBA history.

[feyki]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul

[AintNoSunshine]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris PaulNot sure if serious

[SilkkTheShocker]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul


Stick to Euroball, son.

[feyki]

Not sure if serious

Why ?

[Nash]

well, since he's the only person in the history of the nba who has taken and made a shot for championship or not. I'd say he's the most clutch.

[r15mohd]

he's still the best 3pt shooter - and most clutch at that.

Ray Allen did this for close to 15-20yrs, consistently. Steph is right there behind him, but needs the longevity to surpass IMO. couple more years at Steph's level, even 1 more record breaking year (which I doubt happens) and he'll be the best.

until then, it's Jesus

[Prime_Shaq]

From shooting standpoint? Only Ray Allen, Reggie Miller and Larry Bird comes to mind.

[imdaman99]

Dude is lethal. If you can get him open, him and Miller were likely the most dangerous catch and shoot players in the clutch in history.

[KiiiiNG]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul
Arguably the worst post in history

[sd3035]

well, since he's the only person in the history of the nba who has taken and made a shot for championship or not. I'd say he's the most clutch.

Actually that wasn't for the title, that was to keep the Heat alive

[Smoke117]

Top 5...and he could create just fine back on the Bucks and Sonics. (especially on the bucks) It's like everybody forgets (or just doesn't know I suppose) that he was 32 and coming off of double ankle surgeries his first year on the Celtics. (which is when most people actually started seeing him play regularly it seems)

[FatComputerNerd]

Kyrie belongs on this list

[Bankaii]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul
It's official, you know absolutely nothing about basketball.

[JT123]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul
:roll:

[imdaman99]

Top 5...and he could create just fine back on the Bucks and Sonics. (especially on the bucks) It's like everybody forgets (or just doesn't know I suppose) that he was 32 and coming off of double ankle surgeries his first year on the Celtics. (which is when most people actually started seeing him play regularly it seems)
He essentially ended the 2008 Finals when he was isolated on Vujachk and murdered his ankles at the end of game 4. Celtics go up 4 or 5 and take a 3-1 lead.

[Stringer Bell]

Jordan would be #1 of the players I've seen when it comes to creating his own shot.

If it's an open shot because someone else drew a double team, or the ball happens to just fall to him, then it's Horry.

:facepalm at Rasheed doubling Ginobili and leaving Horry, who had been on fire , alone for a 3.

I'm not sure about who I'd most want for a "catch and shoot" coming off a screen. Maybe Bird. Miller is up there too.

[AintNoSunshine]

Why ?
Because it's a terrible list

[feyki]

Because it's a terrible list

Why ?

[red1]

#1

[Fire Colangelo]

1 - Sam Jones
2 -Reggie Miller
3 -Horry
4 -Jerry West
5 -Dirk
6 -Bird
7 -Hondo
8 -Kobe
9 -Kareem
10 -Pierce
11 -Jordan
12 -Wade
13 -RayRay
14 -Duncan
15 -Chris Paul

Well, there goes your creditability on these forums.

[feyki]

Well, there goes your creditability on these forums.

Pehhhhh

[SexSymbol]

1.MJ
2.Kobe
3.Bird
4.Dirk
5.Allen
6.Miller
7.Sam Jones
8.Vince Carter
9.Robert Horry
10.Billups-Iverson-Curry

I want people who live for these kinds of moments

[feyki]

1.MJ
2.Kobe
3.Bird
4.Dirk
5.Allen
6.Miller
7.Sam Jones
8.Vince Carter
9.Robert Horry
10.Billups-Iverson-Curry

I want people who live for these kinds of moments

No love for logo ?

[SexSymbol]

No love for logo ?

I like the man a lot, obviously a huge laker fan and respect and appreciate the history of the team, but I struggle to put him as the clutch god that many people say he is given his finals record.
I believe his clutch legend was built on that half court game winner which admittedly might be the best shot in NBA history.

Your list is great though, there's many ways to look at this.
someone like Lebron has probably proven himself enough to be top 10-15 too even with his past blunders

[feyki]

I like the man a lot, obviously a huge laker fan and respect and appreciate the history of the team, but I struggle to put him as the clutch god that many people say he is given his finals record.
I believe his clutch legend was built on that half court game winner which admittedly might be the best shot in NBA history.

Your list is great though, there's many ways to look at this.
someone like Lebron has probably proven himself enough to be top 10-15 too even with his past blunders

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273368

The forum had great thread about how clutch he was .

I've seen many tapes of him . He was amazing push the limits guy with his amazing ability on longe ranges in the clutch time . For example .. In 62 Finals ( I don't remember which game ) , Elgin was like Shaq at the time . Amazing dominant player and probably more versatile than Shaq . But West took the responsibility in the clutch time when Elgin and Lakers team struggles against Celtics for last minutes of the game . I remember Kobe-Shaq duo when seeing that situation . Of course , having a great longe range automatically makes you a better clutch player .

[SexSymbol]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273368

The forum had great thread about how clutch he was .

I've seen many tapes of him . He was amazing push the limits guy with his amazing ability on longe ranges in the clutch time . For example .. In 62 Finals ( I don't remember which game ) , Elgin was like Shaq at the time . Amazing dominant player and probably more versatile than Shaq . But West took the responsibility in the clutch time when Elgin and Lakers team struggles against Celtics for last minutes of the game . I remember Kobe-Shaq duo when seeing that situation . Of course , having a great longe range automatically makes you a better clutch player .
Sure.
I don't consider clutch only last moments of the game, you can't lose 8 out of 9 finals and be up for contention as the most clutch player.
I think one thing that all of fans' definitions of clutch have in common is that a clutch player is more likely to win you games when the going gets rough, and there's nothing much rougher than the finals.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Ray-Allen-Hits-Three-to-Force-OT-Game-6-NBA-Finals.gif

^I've never seen a player who deserves a FMVP out of one play until I saw this one.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[feyki]

Sure.
I don't consider clutch only last moments of the game, you can't lose 8 out of 9 finals and be up for contention as the most clutch player.
I think one thing that all of fans' definitions of clutch have in common is that a clutch player is more likely to win you games when the going gets rough, and there's nothing much rougher than the finals.

Of course , not just last minutes . I see your point . But all finals in his prime were against Russell . You can't beat the greatest , outside of having one of the greatest team ; like 72 LA or 67 Sixers . After 69 Finals , he was still great . But he had passed his prime . And turned a playmaker firstly . Somebody calls him as PG , cause of his game at 70's .

[SexSymbol]

Of course , not just last minutes . I see your point . But all finals in his prime were against Russell . You can't beat the greatest , outside of having one of the greatest team ; like 72 LA or 67 Sixers . After 69 Finals , he still great . But he had passed his prime . And turned a playmaker firstly . Somebody calls him as PG , cause of his game at 70's .
I see your point man.
I know he was great, and dude was clutch for sure, but a career loser is a career loser, no matter how many games he closed out

[pedromarinho]

Actually that wasn't for the title, that was to keep the Heat alive
even mo pressure

[Real14]

1. Mj
2. 13 Allen
3. 16 Irving
4. 12 M.miller

[DATBOYFLUENT]

1. Mj
2. 13 Allen
3. 16 Irving
4. 12 M.miller

I see what you did there :oldlol:

[Real14]

I see what you did there :oldlol:
you're damn right:lol

[Human Error]

I do not think there is such thing as a clutch shooter. You are just as good as you are, and if you shoot, you either make it or miss it, and sometimes you are put into clutch situation and sometimes you are not.

[DATBOYFLUENT]

I do not think there is such thing as a clutch shooter. You are just as good as you are, and if you shoot, you either make it or miss it, and sometimes you are put into clutch situation and sometimes you are not.

Not true

Lebron James is a average shooter but when it comes down to clutch situations he is easily one of the worst shooters in the NBA.

[Human Error]

Not true

Lebron James is a average shooter but when it comes down to clutch situations he is easily one of the worst shooters in the NBA.
You are the example of why humans are not very rational. They only see what they want to see. Check the statistics and they will tell you otherwise.

[GrapeApe]

I do not think there is such thing as a clutch shooter. You are just as good as you are, and if you shoot, you either make it or miss it, and sometimes you are put into clutch situation and sometimes you are not.

This is actually true. With a large enough sample size, a player's "clutch" shooting would likely be similar to their normal percentages.