The REALEST top 10 list of ALL TIME...

[stalkerforlife]

Beyond all the BS. Beyond all the nostalgia. Beyond all the brainwashing by the media. Beyond all the lies. Beyond it all to the realest top 10 list of all time...

1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Malone
10. Garnett

That's as real as you can get, folks. Russell, Wilt, Robertson and those boys played in 8 team leagues, worked at bowling alleys in the off-season, smoked during halftime, played against scrubs, etc. Yes, those players paved the way...but no way in hell are they top 10 players of all time. Russell played on the most stacked teams of all time, averaged 15ppg on 47 ts% for his career, etc. Wilt was a choker. Etc.

Just be real. Just be honest.

[red1]

I am trying to see it dude. I really am. It starts off fine but you lose the plot here:


Beyond all the BS. Beyond all the nostalgia. Beyond all the brainwashing by the media. Beyond all the lies. Beyond it all to the realest top 10 list of all time...

1. Jordan
2. Kobe

How can you expect us to take it seriously? :(

[scuzzy]

https://s32.postimg.org/vjigrab1h/heat_lebron_james_hairline_not_funny_hehe_nba_fu.j pg

[Kvnzhangyay]

Beyond all the BS. Beyond all the nostalgia. Beyond all the brainwashing by the media. Beyond all the lies. Beyond it all to the realest top 10 list of all time...

1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Malone
10. Garnett

That's as real as you can get, folks. Russell, Wilt, Robertson and those boys played in 8 team leagues, worked at bowling alleys in the off-season, smoked during halftime, played against scrubs, etc. Yes, those players paved the way...but no way in hell are they top 10 players of all time. Russell played on the most stacked teams of all time, averaged 15ppg on 47 ts% for his career, etc. Wilt was a choker. Etc.

Just be real. Just be honest.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
It's clear you've been brainwashed by the media.

If you werent brainwashed you would know that Kobe isn't top 5

[TheWinningFam]

kobe better than shaq :facepalm even tho he won 3 fmvps over him, also kobe being in the top 10 at all is laughable, the fact that you keep having to tell people kobe's in the top 10 when he's not just shows kobe is not top 10.

otoh, people dont have to constantly tell others that lebron is top 5 because he is universally known as a top 5 player except by salty kobe stans/haters. Thats the difference, nobody except kobe stans think kobe is top 5/10 otoh, any non biased/hater will agree lebron is top 5

[warriorfan]

Beyond all the BS. Beyond all the nostalgia. Beyond all the brainwashing by the media. Beyond all the lies. Beyond it all to the realest top 10 list of all time...

1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Malone
10. Garnett

That's as real as you can get, folks. Russell, Wilt, Robertson and those boys played in 8 team leagues, worked at bowling alleys in the off-season, smoked during halftime, played against scrubs, etc. Yes, those players paved the way...but no way in hell are they top 10 players of all time. Russell played on the most stacked teams of all time, averaged 15ppg on 47 ts% for his career, etc. Wilt was a choker. Etc.

Just be real. Just be honest.

LeBron colluded

He left his originally drafted team and joined with 2 of the top 5 players in the league

Only to get outscored in the next finals by Jason Terry

Then a collude back to Cleveland and his legacy is completely compromised, that isn't even getting into how one of his rings is from a lockout (colluded as well)

Wilt doesn't really belong there either. He exchanged stats for winning and was the king of empty stats. Also the competition from that era is highly suspect.

I can see why you left them out of the top 10

[stalkerforlife]

I am trying to see it dude. I really am. It starts off fine but you lose the plot here:



How can you expect us to take it seriously? :(

Be serious.

[stalkerforlife]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
It's clear you've been brainwashed by the media.

If you werent brainwashed you would know that Kobe isn't top 5

This makes zero sense.

The media hates Kobe.

[warriorfan]

This makes zero sense.

The media hates Kobe.

Yeah...I don't know what he is trying to get at there

He sounds like the brainwashed one tbh

[stalkerforlife]

LeBron colluded

He left his originally drafted team and joined with 2 of the top 5 players in the league

Only to get outscored in the next finals by Jason Terry

Then a collude back to Cleveland and his legacy is completely compromised, that isn't even getting into how one of his rings is from a lockout (colluded as well)

Wilt doesn't really belong there either. He exchanged stats for winning and was the king of empty stats. Also the competition from that era is highly suspect.

I can see why you left them out of the top 10

He killed his legacy on July 8th, 2010, and then beat it like a dead horse on July 11th, 2014.

Do you know how many big time players would have multiple rings had they hopped from team to team in their prime to form super teams? A lot.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Yeah...I don't know what he is trying to get at there

He sounds like the brainwashed one tbh

I can't be brainwashed; I know exactly what the media is capable of- they have vilified my job and the industry I work in

[red1]

Be serious.
I actually have kobe 7-10. Any higher is being dishonest.

Real talk.

[ShawkFactory]

:rolleyes:

[stalkerforlife]

kobe better than shaq :facepalm even tho he won 3 fmvps over him, also kobe being in the top 10 at all is laughable, the fact that you keep having to tell people kobe's in the top 10 when he's not just shows kobe is not top 10.

otoh, people dont have to constantly tell others that lebron is top 5 because he is universally known as a top 5 player except by salty kobe stans/haters. Thats the difference, nobody except kobe stans think kobe is top 5/10 otoh, any non biased/hater will agree lebron is top 5

The truth seems to shake you.

Please continue...

[warriorfan]

He killed his legacy on July 8th, 2010, and then beat it like a dead horse on July 11th, 2014.

Do you know how many big time players would have multiple rings had they hopped from team to team in their prime to form super teams? A lot.

Yes

Then there is the 2011 Finals getting shit on by Jason Terry

Then the *Lockout

*Ray Allen

*Adam Silver

After all of that, being realistic, his resume looks awful. He has hopped around and stacked superteams left and right and not been able to win one legitimate ring...It's embarrassing.

[TheWinningFam]

Lets be serious for a second stalker

Completely disregard the collusion /5>3 rangz argument killa instink and other opinion based hypothetical arguments




Whats your arguement for kobe over kareem or lebron? or even shaq?

[stalkerforlife]

I actually have kobe 7-10. Any higher is being dishonest.

Real talk.

Absolutely not real talk.

Most first team ALL-NBA selections of ALL TIME, most first team ALL-DEFENSE selections of ALL TIME, 3rd in scoring in the regular season and playoffs of ALL TIME, 5 titles, top 5 in MVP voting in 11 different season, etc, etc, etc, etc.

I could do this all day.

Kobe is easily top 5 and the only one who has a case over him at 2nd is Kareem.

[Smoke117]

If real is a new synonym for cringe...then yes, yes it is. You think Jason Williams is a top 10 pg as far as impact though, so this list isn't particularly surprising.

[TheWinningFam]

Whats your argument of lebron not in the top 10 besides opinion based arguments like collusion and having no heart? lol.

[stalkerforlife]

Yes

Then there is the 2011 Finals getting shit on by Jason Terry

Then the *Lockout

*Ray Allen

*Adam Silver

After all of that, being realistic, his resume looks awful. He has hopped around and stacked superteams left and right and not been able to win one legitimate ring...It's embarrassing.

Agreed.

But we shouldn't even be talking about him because he's not top 10 all time and this is a top 10 thread.

[stalkerforlife]

Lets be serious for a second stalker

Completely disregard the collusion /5>3 rangz argument killa instink and other opinion based hypothetical arguments




Whats your arguement for kobe over kareem or lebron? or even shaq?

Doesn't work that way. :lol

What kind of shit is that?

Cowardly hopping from team to team to form super teams in a historically weak conference is supposed to be forgotten? :wtf:

[WayOfWad3]

Stalker, why didn't your retire from ISH like you promised you would? Until I get a reasonable answer, your list has absolutely no credibility

[red1]

Absolutely not real talk.

Most first team ALL-NBA selections of ALL TIME, most first team ALL-DEFENSE selections of ALL TIME, 3rd in scoring in the regular season and playoffs of ALL TIME, 5 titles, top 5 in MVP voting in 11 different season, etc, etc, etc, etc.

I could do this all day.

Kobe is easily top 5 and the only one who has a case over him at 2nd is Kareem.
Yet outperformed routinely by the players above him on the top 10 list. LBJ for example is a better performer in every aspect of NBA basketball whether its the regular season, playoffs or finals. I hate to break it to you but 2 finals MVPs and 1 MVP isn't that impressive when compared to some of the other players we are talking about.

[stalkerforlife]

Whats your argument of lebron not in the top 10 besides opinion based arguments like collusion and having no heart? lol.

Why would I need anything else?

Do you know how revered Malone or Barkley or KG or many others would've been with multiple rings?

They just didn't collude in their prime to form super teams in a historically weak conference.

[TheWinningFam]

Doesn't work that way. :lol

What kind of shit is that?

Cowardly hopping from team to team to form super teams in a historically weak conference is supposed to be forgotten? :wtf:
Can you not distinguish the difference between an OPINION and a FACT? I'm not even joking right now. :facepalm

[warriorfan]

https://s31.postimg.org/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg


2011 Finals Statistics

Dwayne Wade - 159 points on .614 TS%
Jason Terry - 108 points on .605 TS%
LeBron James - 107 points on .541 TS%




http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/04/28/cavs.bulls.game5/lebron608.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

Can you not distinguish the difference between an OPINION and a FACT? I'm not even joking right now. :facepalm

Can you distinguish between beta and alpha? Cowardice and bravery? East and west? 0* and 5?

Manufactured and real?

[bigkingsfan]

2011 Finals Statistics

Dwayne Wade - 159 points on .614 TS%
Jason Terry - 108 points on .605 TS%
LeBron James - 107 points on .541 TS%

Jason Terry had a .757 TS and 19.8 PPG VS Kobe and Lakers, swept them too.

[stalkerforlife]

https://s31.postimg.org/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg


2011 Finals Statistics

Dwayne Wade - 159 points on .614 TS%
Jason Terry - 108 points on .605 TS%
LeBron James - 107 points on .541 TS%




http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/04/28/cavs.bulls.game5/lebron608.jpg

That about sums up the cowardice action that took place on July 8th, 2010.

Not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...okay, how about 2 illegitimate rings and then running like hell to younger stars after being demolished in the finals.

[Smoke117]

https://s31.postimg.org/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg


2011 Finals Statistics

Dwayne Wade - 159 points on .614 TS%
Jason Terry - 108 points on .605 TS%
LeBron James - 107 points on .541 TS%


Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't realize how pathetic it makes you look to be posting stats from 5 years ago after Lebron completely shit on your favorite player and team? (and I use team loosely...you wouldn't give a damn about the warriors if curry wasn't on the team) Then again...you're warriorfan...it's pretty much impossible for you to be any more pathetic than you are.

[stalkerforlife]

Jason Terry had a .757 TS and 19.8 PPG VS Kobe and Lakers, swept them too.

Kobe was old. Pau got soft...again.

Who cares.

Bran had a super team of prime players and was part of the biggest choke in NBA history.

[red1]

That about sums up the cowardice action that took place on July 8th, 2010.

Not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...okay, how about 2 illegitimate rings and then running like hell to younger stars after being demolished in the finals.
and still better than your idol

http://mtdata.ru/u17/photoEA85/20502480159-0/original.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

and still better than your idol

http://mtdata.ru/u17/photoEA85/20502480159-0/original.jpg

I have no idol.

But Kobe is better than Bran and that's irrefutable.

[red1]

I have no idol.

But Kobe is better than Bran and that's irrefutable.
keep telling yourself that. we both know the truth :pimp:

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/templates/287763.jpg

[bigkingsfan]

Kobe was old. Pau got soft...again.

Who cares.

Bran had a super team of prime players and was part of the biggest choke in NBA history.
Defending two time champs, Lebron trying to mesh with his new team.

[TheWinningFam]

Keep living in denial when nobody has kobe top 5 lol.

[Nilocon165]

I have no idol.

But Kobe is better than Bran and that's irrefutable.
you've called Kobe "the greatest human being alive" and said that the only thing you had in life that kept you from killing yourself was watching Kobe play

[bigkingsfan]

Kobe was also playing with Old Steve Nash and an injured Dwight Howard, not prime D.Wade and Chris Bosh


:roll: Saw that before you deleted it. They weren't even on the team at the time dumb ass.

[stalkerforlife]

Keep living in denial when nobody has kobe top 5 lol.

I see you deleted the meltdown. :lol

[stalkerforlife]

you've called Kobe "the greatest human being alive" and said that the only thing you had in life that kept you from killing yourself was watching Kobe play

You threaten to kill yourself every other day and beg to be in the Bran family even after they demean and ridicule you.

[Smoke117]

I have no idol.

But Kobe is better than Bran and that's irrefutable.

Right...so why did you cry like a little bitch when Kobe retired? "you saved my life kobe...waaaaaaah waaaaah"

[warriorfan]

Nilocon after Game 4

https://s31.postimg.org/kt1l99xwb/Nilocon.jpg

[InsanityKills]

How have you been Justin? Welfare checks still coming in??

[stalkerforlife]

Nilocon after Game 4

https://s32.postimg.org/kmy7b879h/Nilocon.jpg

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

How have you been Justin? Welfare checks still coming in??

Fine.

Thank you, obvious alt.

[warriorfan]

:roll: Saw that before you deleted it. They weren't even on the team at the time dumb ass.

:whatever:

stop making shit up breh

[Nilocon165]

You threaten to kill yourself every other day and beg to be in the Bran family even after they demean and ridicule you.
1. I'm happy and not even remotely suicidal

2. I'm not even in the lebron fam and I don't want to be.

[stalkerforlife]

:whatever:

stop making shit up breh

You're making them melt so hard that they're making up blatant lies.

[stalkerforlife]

1. I'm happy and not even remotely suicidal

2. I'm not even in the lebron fam and I don't want to be.

The Seth Curry family still has a spot for you, big guy.

[bigkingsfan]

:whatever:

stop making shit up breh
Nice try breh, images are easy to save.

https://s31.postimg.org/djl2nx2kr/Untitled.png

[stalkerforlife]

Nice try breh, images are easy to save.

https://s31.postimg.org/djl2nx2kr/Untitled.png

Wow...meltdown.

[bigkingsfan]

Wow...meltdown.
Nope, that would be you after the finals, one month baby. :banana:

[stalkerforlife]

Nope, that would be you after the finals, one month baby. :banana:

The difference between you and me is that i'm honest.

I DID meltdown after the NBA fixed the finals.

I never thought the game I enjoy so much would turn into a scripted show.

[Doctor K]

Nice try breh, images are easy to save.

https://s31.postimg.org/djl2nx2kr/Untitled.png




warriorfan OWNED again :roll: :roll: :roll:




PS: its pretty clear warriorfan and stalkerforlife are the same person. good luck talking to both at once

[warriorfan]

Nice try breh, images are easy to save.

https://s31.postimg.org/djl2nx2kr/Untitled.png

Impressive photoshop

You have some skills

[InsanityKills]

Fine.

Thank you, obvious alt.
Mindfvcked!!


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[bigkingsfan]

Impressive photoshop

You have some skills
Don't be dumb breh, I still have that page there, would you like a video?

[scuzzy]

Nice try breh, images are easy to save.

https://s31.postimg.org/djl2nx2kr/Untitled.png

buahahahah

got stalkers new lapdog on a LEASH :roll: :roll:


http://i.giphy.com/3o7TKNCLhm6puanFwQ.gifl

[Doctor K]

ive seen a lot of bad posters on this board, but warriorsfan takes the cake in terms of stupidity combined with annoyance. i kind of feel bad for how much his life must suck.

[ScalsFan21]

Basically anyone who's seen me post knows I dislike the Brick Mamba heavily and am an unabashed Bransvestite, so don't mistake this for me thinking Kobe would ever get hired at the Top Ten Building as anything other than doorman or chauffeur. That being said, there's a distinct and very annoying accolade similarity between two players... player A on the left, player B on the right.

6 rings > 5 rings
2 FMVP = 2 FMVP
19 ASG > 18 ASG
10 All-NBA First Team < 11 All-NBA First Team
2 scoring titles = 2 scoring titles
5 All-NBA defensive 1st team < 9 All-NBA defensive 1st team

There is no doubt that looking SOLELY at career accolades, Kobe Bryant's overall "wall of achievements" is largely comparable to Kareem pretty much across the board. It doesn't mean everything on its own (of course) but I just thought that was kind of cool just how closely their careers resemble each other's.

BUT....... the issue is the MVP count of 6-1. That's a MASSIVE gap, Stalk. Massive. I'm curious to hear your case as to why Kobe is better than Kareem, when I feel like so many of your arguments for him are based off of his career longevity, ASG appearances, First-Team selections, total chips... these are things Kareem did just as well (factoring in combined 1st/2nd team selections it's pretty much identical in that department) WITH the 5 MVP edge.

We all know these threads always turn into LeBron vs. Kobe vs. the other players that get the board's panties in a knot, but why is the Mamba ahead of KAJ specifically for you?

[KiiiiNG]

Don't be dumb breh, I still have that page there, would you like a video?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Do it for the lulz

[raprap]

Thread has potential :lol

[wiggy]

mayne u foo's is wil'n, dis G ova herr has Kob at number 2 c'mon mayne :facepalm

[Big164]

Wilt was bigger faster, stronger, and more athletic than 99.9% of the modern athletes today. He was taller than Shaq, faster than Hakeem, with more stamnia than Lebron. I dont care if he played in 1862... The guys dimensions are what they are.. out of this world.

100 points
50.4 in a season
30.1 for his career
Rebound King
Goat GOat GOat just look at the record books..


Of all his memories of Wilt Chamberlain, the one that stood out for Larry Brown happened long after Chamberlain's professional career was over.
On a summer day in the early 1980s at the Men's Gym on the UCLA campus, Chamberlain showed up to take part in one of the high-octane pickup games that the arena constantly attracted. Brown was the coach of the Bruins back then, and Chamberlain often drove to UCLA from his home in Bel Air, Calif.
"Magic Johnson used to run the games," Brown recalled Tuesday after hearing that Chamberlain, his friend, had died at the age of 63, "and he called a couple of chintzy fouls and a goaltending on Wilt.
"So Wilt said: 'There will be no more layups in this gym,' and he blocked every shot after that. That's the truth, I saw it. He didn't let one (of Johnson's) shots get to the rim." Chamberlain would have been in his mid-40s at the time, a decade removed from one of the greatest careers any basketball player ever produced. But the advancing years meant little to Chamberlain in terms of physical conditioning.
http://i52.tinypic.com/21lo50h.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

Basically anyone who's seen me post knows I dislike the Brick Mamba heavily and am an unabashed Bransvestite, so don't mistake this for me thinking Kobe would ever get hired at the Top Ten Building as anything other than doorman or chauffeur. That being said, there's a distinct and very annoying accolade similarity between two players... player A on the left, player B on the right.

6 rings > 5 rings
2 FMVP = 2 FMVP
19 ASG > 18 ASG
10 All-NBA First Team < 11 All-NBA First Team
2 scoring titles = 2 scoring titles
5 All-NBA defensive 1st team < 9 All-NBA defensive 1st team

There is no doubt that looking SOLELY at career accolades, Kobe Bryant's overall "wall of achievements" is largely comparable to Kareem pretty much across the board. It doesn't mean everything on its own (of course) but I just thought that was kind of cool just how closely their careers resemble each other's.

BUT....... the issue is the MVP count of 6-1. That's a MASSIVE gap, Stalk. Massive. I'm curious to hear your case as to why Kobe is better than Kareem, when I feel like so many of your arguments for him are based off of his career longevity, ASG appearances, First-Team selections, total chips... these are things Kareem did just as well (factoring in combined 1st/2nd team selections it's pretty much identical in that department) WITH the 5 MVP edge.

We all know these threads always turn into LeBron vs. Kobe vs. the other players that get the board's panties in a knot, but why is the Mamba ahead of KAJ specifically for you?

Kobe went to b2b2b finals and won b2b titles with the least amount of help in NBA history when you combine the two.

Kareem never won without a top 10 potential GOAT. (Some have Oscar in there)

The MVP argument is invalid because the media has hated Kobe ever since the alleged rape.

[ShawkFactory]

Kobe went to b2b2b finals and won b2b titles with the least amount of help in NBA history when you combine the two.

Kareem never won without a top 10 potential GOAT. (Some have Oscar in there)

The MVP argument is invalid because the media has hated Kobe ever since the alleged rape.
So basically the 3rd grade level answer he was expecting :lol

[Prometheus]

Kobe is actually getting disrespected on these boards nowadays. His lone MVP could easily be 3 or 4 if his luck had been different (imagine if he had played on contending rosters in his peak, rather than in the beginning and end of his prime).

But having him ranked #2 is an insult to every true fan's intelligence. He's in the same tier with Shaq, LeBron, Duncan, Magic, Bird.

[stalkerforlife]

So basically the 3rd grade level answer he was expecting :lol

Or...you know...the actual answer to the question.

And a very good and reasonable answer.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Finally, Godbe in his proper rank

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Lebronxrings]

you're an idiot.. plain and simple

[KiiiiNG]

Kobe is actually getting disrespected on these boards nowadays. His lone MVP could easily be 3 or 4 if his luck had been different (imagine if he had played on contending rosters in his peak, rather than in the beginning and end of his prime).

But having him ranked #2 is an insult to every true fan's intelligence. He's in the same tier with Shaq, LeBron, Duncan, Magic, Bird.
:biggums:

:roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

What the hell is going on here!

[Keno]

lebron is top 3 at best (so far) and top 5 at worst on every objective basketball fan's list. therefore, your list is utter trash.

[Smoke117]

Where did this inflated sense of ego and self-importance come from? The only posters that have ever agreed with you here are the rest of the gutter scum. I don't think I've ever met someone so ignorant of their worthlessness as you are.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Why do posters give this phegget any attention?

[Prime_Shaq]

If real is a new synonym for cringe...then yes, yes it is. You think Jason Williams is a top 10 pg as far as impact though, so this list isn't particularly surprising.
Did he really say that?

[Nilocon165]

Did he really say that?
Well it's true I mean Jason Williams didn't team up with two superstars in his prime like that coward Bran!!!!!!:coleman:

If Jason Williams team hopped he would have like 15 rangzzzz!!!!!!!

I'm unemployed and Bran winning the title ruined my life!!!!!!!

[SouBeachTalents]

Why do you guys give this fakkit any attention, it's all he has in his life, just ignore his desperate for attention threads

[riseagainst]

if you have Kobe in the top 10 then it's automatically a bad list.

[TheWinningFam]

Feel sorry for this dude's kid and baby momma :facepalm

[K Xerxes]

Feel sorry for this dude's kid and baby momma :facepalm

His wife needs to be thrown into an enclosure so she can mate with other whales.

[zeerghit]

His wife needs to be thrown into an enclosure so she can mate with other whales.

damn:lol

[Lebron23]

OP is older than me, but has the mind of a 13 yrs.old.

[hiphopfan777]

Karl Malone is a bigger choker than Lebum James sadly

[AirBonner]

Op has been destroyed in this thread on every reply. 24ppg on 44%fg is not top 2.

[stalkerforlife]

It feels good to be REAL.

[AirBonner]

It feels good to be REAL STUPID
Ok

[SexSymbol]

1.Bill Russell
2.Michael Jordan
3.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4.Larry Bird
5-9.Magic Johnson
5-9.Kobe Bryant
5-9.Tim Duncan
5-9.Shaquille O'Neal
10.Lebron James.

[feyki]

Kareem/Russell/Jordan
Wilt
Duncan
Shaq/Hakeem
Bird/Magic/Kobe/Lebron

[stalkerforlife]

Why do people keep putting Russell and Wilt in their top 10 when they've never seen them play and they don't understand their circumstances?

:lol

[Nilocon165]

Why do people keep putting Russell and Wilt in their top 10 when they've never seen them play and they don't understand their circumstances?

:lol
Did you?

[Im Still Ballin]

https://i.imgflip.com/1878rm.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

Did you?

No.

That's why ranking them is disingenuous.

[Im Still Ballin]

https://i.imgflip.com/1878ue.jpg

[J Shuttlesworth]

https://i.imgflip.com/1878ue.jpg
Where's KoBaldo? :lol

[feyki]

No.

That's why ranking them is disingenuous.

Did you see Kareem in his prime ?

Or even Magic and Bird ?

[stalkerforlife]

Did you see Kareem in his prime ?

Or even Magic and Bird ?

They have full games of those guys all across the internet. I did watch Bird and Magic live, but even if I didn't, the evidence is plentiful.

[feyki]

They have full games of those guys all across the internet. I did watch Bird and Magic live, but even if I didn't, the evidence is plentiful.

That's what i'm talking about , mostly .

We have enough game tapes for seeing "Russell and other legends" s talents and plays , and reading about game of the time , analyzing with numbers ; not just individuals , bringing together all .. Team numbers , opponent numbers and how individual numbers effected to those etc etc ..

Easiest way is ignoring .

[SexSymbol]

Why do people keep putting Russell and Wilt in their top 10 when they've never seen them play and they don't understand their circumstances?

:lol
Because you have to judge players relative to their era. When Russell DOMINATES a huge chunk of NBA history with 11 rings you can't ignore it and say oh bron would've been the best player back them because of more advancements in training these days or some bull like that.
If a player dominates his own era so emphatically that noone in that era can even compare, what difference does it make if we know things only watching games can tell us, like handling, defensive positioning, offensive awareness and so on?
Sure, in terms of comparing players 1x1 you have to watch games and not rely on stats, but when you compare careers and you don't put Russell, who won 11 fkin rings on your list, it's just disrespectful not only to him, but to the game and it's history.

[stalkerforlife]

And you know it.

[AirBonner]

And you know it.
We know that you are an idiot a crater face a recluse and a leech to society.

[Nilocon165]

KG lol.

[stalkerforlife]

KG lol.

He's the most versatile defender in NBA history.

He's a WAY better offensive player than Bill Russell.

He didn't collude in his prime with two other superstars on two separate occasions; had he, he would've ended up with multiple rings and many other accolades.

[RRR3]

If you want people to take you seriously, at least put LeBron in the top 10 and don't have Kobe so high up. You can still push your Kobe agenda without looking like you have the IQ of a protozoan.

[pauk]

lol, agenda have to be going real mental to go as far as to become the first person on planet Tellus to rank Malone (sure hope its Moses? if its Karl it makes it even more ridicilous) and better yet Garnett in the Top 10.... even if you act like Russell, Lebron, Wilt, Oscar, Elgin never did what they did at least put Jerry West & Julius Erving in there... or are they getting the same treatment?

[Mr Feeny]

Tbf any lost that has Kobe ahead of 12th spot has absolutely no credibility and should be thrown out :lol

[stalkerforlife]

If you want people to take you seriously, at least put LeBron in the top 10 and don't have Kobe so high up. You can still push your Kobe agenda without looking like you have the IQ of a protozoan.

You can't run to form super teams every time the waters get rough if you want to be considered a top 10 GOAT.

WTF is wrong with people like you?

Seriously...you can't just brush something like that under the rug.

What Bran did was unprecedented and the most cowardly move in NBA history...and he did it TWICE.

[stalkerforlife]

The world is ****ed up, when a rapist is considered real and top 10 smh...

THAT is the word I LOVE to hear associated with Kobe...all you're doing is verifying how much the media hated Kobe for his entire career.

If the media liked Kobe, he would've won many more MVP awards.

Specifically, white racist men and women in the media HATED HATED HATED Kobe.

[Kenomax]

THAT is the word I LOVE to hear associated with Kobe...all you're doing is verifying how much the media hated Kobe for his entire career.

If the media liked Kobe, he would've won many more MVP awards.

Specifically, white racist men and women in the media HATED HATED HATED Kobe.

What a nonsense. The only reason Kobe have so many awards is because how loved he was by media and how much they wanted him to be next MJ. Kobe wouldn't have won any more MVPs because he was to poor.

[zeerghit]

THAT is the word I LOVE to hear associated with Kobe...all you're doing is verifying how much the media hated Kobe for his entire career.

If the media liked Kobe, he would've won many more MVP awards.

Specifically, white racist men and women in the media HATED HATED HATED Kobe.

so its media fault now?

[stalkerforlife]

so its media fault now?

Um, the media votes on the award.

The media is responsible for the racial divide in America.

The propaganda the media presents to meet their agenda of achieving high ratings, making money, and trying to brainwash people to believe what they believe, is pure evil.

[Mr Feeny]

Um, the media votes on the award.

The media is responsible for the racial divide in America.

The propaganda the media presents to meet their agenda of achieving high ratings, making money, and trying to brainwash people to believe what they believe, is pure evil.

Yawn. Curry 》》 kobe.

[Kenomax]

Um, the media votes on the award.

The media is responsible for the racial divide in America.

The propaganda the media presents to meet their agenda of achieving high ratings, making money, and trying to brainwash people to believe what they believe, is pure evil.

That's right, there is a reason why so many people believe that Kobe is greatest player of his era or other nonsenses like that.

[Dr Hawk]

Yawn. Curry 》》 kobe.
http://i.imgur.com/T69Qqqh.gif

[Papaya Petee]

You can't run to form super teams every time the waters get rough if you want to be considered a top 10 GOAT.

WTF is wrong with people like you?

Seriously...you can't just brush something like that under the rug.

What Bran did was unprecedented and the most cowardly move in NBA history...and he did it TWICE.
Care to tell us Clevelands combined record the 4 years he left Cleveland? Superteam :roll:

[Lebron23]

1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Tim Duncan
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Wilt Chamberlain
9. Larry Bird
10. Kobe Bryant and Hakeem Olajuwon

[SexSymbol]

lol, agenda have to be going real mental to go as far as to become the first person on planet Tellus to rank Malone (sure hope its Moses? if its Karl it makes it even more ridicilous) and better yet Garnett in the Top 10.... even if you act like Russell, Lebron, Wilt, Oscar, Elgin never did what they did at least put Jerry West & Julius Erving in there... or are they getting the same treatment?
top 10s are incredibly subjective, we have people putting LeBron second which is equally ludicrous as KG being top 10

[Papaya Petee]

1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Tim Duncan
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Wilt Chamberlain
9. Larry Bird
10. Kobe Bryant and Hakeem Olajuwon
Lets get real Lebron has no case over Kareem yet

[Mr Feeny]

Lets get real Lebron has no case over Kareem yetHe's won 3 titles as lead dog to Kareem's 2.
He's never had anyone as good as prime Magic playing with him.
He played better in this year's finals than kareem every did during any of his.
He's 2nd in career PER, ahead of Kareem, and only behind MJ.
He's 2nd in career playoff PER, ahead of kareem and only behind MJ.
He'll surpass kareem in playoff points this coming season.
He'll surpass kareem in finals points this coming season.
He has the highest vorp and ws in nba post season history already at 31.
He was more dominant at his peak than kareem was at his.
He is a more versatile player and defender and can play more positions effectively than kareem.
He is a 27 ppg career scorer while kareem is at 24 ppg. Even if Lebron declines, he's going to end up with a higher average.
He had a MUCH higher playoff and finals scoring average than Kareem.

[aj1987]

He's won 3 titles as lead dog to Kareem's 2.
Not sure if serious.


He's never had anyone as good as prime Magic playing with him.
He had prime Wade and prime Bosh in '11.


He played better in this year's finals than kareem every did during any of his.
1971 - 28/19/3 on 61% (with probably about 4+ blocks.
1980 - 33/14/3/1/4 on 55% (would've won FMVP if he was healthy for the final game)

Not saying the '85 Finals was better than LeBron's '16 Finals, but Kareem averaged 26/9/5/1/2 on 60% at 37. Arguably better than the majority of LeBron's Finals and he did it at 37.

22/7/1/1/3 on 51% in the '87 Finals at 39 as well.


He's 2nd in career PER, ahead of Kareem, and only behind MJ.
He's 2nd in career playoff PER, ahead of kareem and only behind MJ.
According to PER, Wade should rightfully be ranked in the top 15.


He was more dominant at his peak than kareem was at his.
:biggums:

You do know that Kareem had a season of 35/16/5 on 57%, right?

A 5 year stretch averaging 30/16/5/3/4 on 55%. LeBron doesn't even come close to those numbers. 29/17/4/1/2 on 50% over the season stretch in the PO's.


He is a more versatile player and defender and can play more positions effectively than kareem.
Kareem is arguably the greatest center. Ever. The most impactful position defensively and KAJ was a monster defender. One of the greatest scorers ever saw well.


He is a 27 ppg career scorer while kareem is at 24 ppg. Even if Lebron declines, he's going to end up with a higher average.
Through his first 13 seasons, Kareem averaged 28/14/4/1/3 on 56%.


He had a MUCH higher playoff and finals scoring average than Kareem.
Kareem played in the majority of his Finals after his prime.

All time NBA leader in points, 3rd in block, and 3rd in rebounds. 6x NBA champ, 6x MVP, 2x FMVP. A top 3 GOAT scorer AND defender. LeBron literally has no argument over KAJ.

[Papaya Petee]

Not sure if serious.


He had prime Wade and prime Bosh in '11.


1971 - 28/19/3 on 61% (with probably about 4+ blocks.
1980 - 33/14/3/1/4 on 55% (would've won FMVP if he was healthy for the final game)

Not saying the '85 Finals was better than LeBron's '16 Finals, but Kareem averaged 26/9/5/1/2 on 60% at 37. Arguably better than the majority of LeBron's Finals and he did it at 37.

22/7/1/1/3 on 51% in the '87 Finals at 39 as well.


According to PER, Wade should rightfully be ranked in the top 15.


:biggums:

You do know that Kareem had a season of 35/16/5 on 57%, right?

A 5 year stretch averaging 30/16/5/3/4 on 55%. LeBron doesn't even come close to those numbers. 29/17/4/1/2 on 50% over the season stretch in the PO's.


Kareem is arguably the greatest center. Ever. The most impactful position defensively and KAJ was a monster defender. One of the greatest scorers ever saw well.


Through his first 13 seasons, Kareem averaged 28/14/4/1/3 on 56%.


Kareem played in the majority of his Finals after his prime.

All time NBA leader in points, 3rd in block, and 3rd in rebounds. 6x NBA champ, 6x MVP, 2x FMVP. A top 3 GOAT scorer AND defender. LeBron literally has no argument over KAJ.
There it is. :applause:

[stalkerforlife]

120 replies = ready...ready...ready...

I am right.

[Mr Feeny]

Not sure if serious.


Shouldn't be too complicated, even for you.


He had prime Wade and prime Bosh in '11.

So he didn't have anyone as good as prime Magic? Got ya


1971 - 28/19/3 on 61% (with probably about 4+ blocks.
1980 - 33/14/3/1/4 on 55% (would've won FMVP if he was healthy for the final game)

Not saying the '85 Finals was better than LeBron's '16 Finals, but Kareem averaged 26/9/5/1/2 on 60% at 37. Arguably better than the majority of LeBron's Finals and he did it at 37.

22/7/1/1/3 on 51% in the '87 Finals at 39 as well.
Not one of these is as good as this year's finals by Lebron and over the course of thir careers, Lebron has much better numbers in nba finals than does kareem.



According to PER, Wade should rightfully be ranked in the top 15.


And based on his peak play he probably was. It's not a crazy notion is it? He'll decline over the next few years though and his career PER will plummet.



You do know that Kareem had a season of 35/16/5 on 57%, right?

A 5 year stretch averaging 30/16/5/3/4 on 55%. LeBron doesn't even come close to those numbers. 29/17/4/1/2 on 50% over the season stretch in the PO's.



Career PER

LeBron: 27.65

Kareem: 24.58






Peak PER:

LeBron: 31.67

Kareem: 29.94



greatest center. Ever. The most impactful position defensively and KAJ was a monster defender. One of the greatest scorers ever saw well.


Through his first 13 seasons, Kareem averaged 28/14/4/1/3 on 56%.


Kareem played in the majority of his Finals after his prime.

All time NBA leader in points, 3rd in block, and 3rd in rebounds. 6x NBA champ, 6x MVP, 2x FMVP. A top 3 GOAT scorer AND defender. LeBron literally has no argument over KAJ.
Ok:rolleyes:
Averages 24 ppg to LeBron's 27.
He does the have the overall points record in the regular season but will be surpassed by Lebron this coming year.
Lebron will finish top 2 or 3 in post season assists as well.
Everything you mentioned is based on longevity. Their actual impact (averages ) have lebron crushing kareem in several categories.
"Lebron has no argument :( " leave it to the kid who knows nothing about basketball to pretend he does.

[aj1987]

Shouldn't be too complicated, even for you.
Considering the fact that your post like an autistic chimp, it's not really complicated. Just retarded.


So he didn't have anyone as good as prime Magic? Got ya
Nope. Kareem also never has a duo as good as '11 Bosh.


Not one of these is as good as this year's finals by Lebron and over the course of their careers
'71 and '80 >>>.


Lebron has much better numbers in nba finals than does kareem.
Sure, considering the fact that LeBron has played in significantly fewer Finals and at a younger age than Kareem.


And based on his peak play he probably was. It's not a crazy notion is it? He'll decline over the next few years though and his career PER will plummet.
Larry Bird - 17 in the RS and 27 in the PO's.
Magic - 14 in the RS and 17 in the PO's.


Career PER
LeBron: 27.65
Kareem: 24.58
Peak PER:
LeBron: 31.67
Kareem: 29.94
:facepalm


Ok:rolleyes:
Averages 24 ppg to LeBron's 27.
That's because Kareem played 20 seasons and LeBron played 13.


He does the have the overall points record in the regular season but will be surpassed by Lebron this coming year.
:wtf:


Lebron will finish top 2 or 3 in post season assists as well.
Good for LeBron.


Everything you mentioned is based on longevity. Their actual impact (averages ) have lebron crushing kareem in several categories.
Except Kareem in his prime/peak was a much better player than LeBron. I don't remember Kareem ever shooting under 40% in multiple series during his prime. I also don't remember Kareem dropping his PPG by 10 points from the RS to the Finals during his prime/peak.


"Lebron has no argument :( " leave it to the kid who knows nothing about basketball to pretend he does.
Exactly. Stop talking basketball, when the only knowledge you have about it comes from basketball reference. You're like the 3ball of LeBron stans with infinitely worse arguments.

[Mr Feeny]

Considering the fact that your post like an autistic chimp, it's not really complicated. Just retarded.


Nope. Kareem also never has a duo as good as '11 Bosh.


'71 and '80 >>>.


Sure, considering the fact that LeBron has played in significantly fewer Finals and at a younger age than Kareem.


Larry Bird - 17 in the RS and 27 in the PO's.
Magic - 14 in the RS and 17 in the PO's.


:facepalm


That's because Kareem played 20 seasons and LeBron played 13.


:wtf:


Good for LeBron.


Except Kareem in his prime/peak was a much better player than LeBron. I don't remember Kareem ever shooting under 40% in multiple series during his prime. I also don't remember Kareem dropping his PPG by 10 points from the RS to the Finals during his prime/peak.


Exactly. Stop talking basketball, when the only knowledge you have about it comes from basketball reference. You're like the 3ball of LeBron stans with infinitely worse arguments.

Either your mother dropped on on your head as a baby or you truly don't understand basketball.

"Good for lebron"
If expect that from a 5 year old. This is a basketball forum. If you want to form a proper argument, people would be bothered to reply or take you seriously.

Showing that Lebron creams kareem in peak and career PER, ws, VORP and BPG while about to surpass him in postseason and finals scoring and having someone respond like a 5 year old with "good for lebron" is not worth wasting a minute responding to.

Leave it to the 15 year old hindu to pretend he understands the sport.

[aj1987]

Either your mother dropped on on your head as a baby or you truly don't understand basketball.

"Good for lebron"
If expect that from a 5 year old. This is a basketball forum. If you want to form a proper argument, people would be bothered to reply or take you seriously.

Showing that Lebron creams kareem in peak and career PER, ws, VORP and BPG while about to surpass him in postseason and finals scoring and having someone respond like a 5 year old with "good for lebron" is not worth wasting a minute responding to.

Leave it to the 15 year old hindu to pretend he understands the sport.
Hold the L and move along, you autistic ****. You LeTurd stans are retarded beyond belief. You retards make Kobe stans seem sane and unbiased.

Literally ZERO arguments. But but but per though. Deal with the FACT that Kareem's career takes an elephant sized shit on LeBron's. Not even close. Stick to your per and VORP based basketball reference arguments.

[Dray n Klay]

FEENY has AJ on a LEASH :lol :roll: :roll:

:hammertime:

[AirBonner]

Hold the L and move along, you autistic ****. You LeTurd stans are retarded beyond belief. You retards make Kobe stans seem sane and unbiased.

Literally ZERO arguments. But but but per though. Deal with the FACT that Kareem's career takes an elephant sized shit on LeBron's. Not even close. Stick to your per and VORP based basketball reference arguments.
You are mad. Literally everything you said has been refuted soundly.

[stalkerforlife]

Bransvestites are turning on each other in this thread...THIS is what it's all about.

aj and feeny, please continue the meltdown of the family...for our viewing purposes, of course.

[AirBonner]

Bransvestites are turning on each other in this thread...THIS is what it's all about.

aj and feeny, please continue the meltdown of the family...for our viewing purposes, of course.
Being a coward is all that you are about.

[aj1987]

And the alts come in like the roaches they are. :roll: :roll: