What's the worst humiliation and annihilation of the MVP?

[AintNoSunshine]

Jordan vs. Drexler, 6 threes in a half, shrug game.(My bad, Jordan was the MVP. Drexler was considered his "positional rival" so MJ felt he need to show the world there's no such thing as his rival)

Dream vs. Robinson, schooled the Admiral with the dream shake

Lebron vs. Cuckry, blocked Cuckry 6 times and stared him down, Cuckry visibly shook and walked away with head down.

Anymore?

[SouBeachTalents]

'07 Dirk & '11 Rose are contenders as well

[WayOfWad3]

10' LeBron was pretty bad, against his rival Pierce and the Celtics no less

[Mr Feeny]

10' LeBron was pretty bad, against his rival Pierce and the Celtics no less

He outplayed Pierce though.

[Fire Colangelo]

Jordan vs. Drexler, 6 threes in a half, shrug game.

Dream vs. Robinson, schooled the Admiral with the dream shake

Lebron vs. Cuckry, blocked Cuckry 6 times and stared him down, Cuckry visibly shook and walked away with head down.

Anymore?

Did I miss something? Don't think Drexler ever won MVP... unless I'm reading this thread incorrectly.

I think Dirk in 07 deserves a mention.

[warriorfan]

10' LeBron was pretty bad, against his rival Pierce and the Celtics no less

Yes, LeBron 10' was probably the worst considering he was malingering


And as you'll recall, just about every time Boston did something splashy or James did something un-James-like, he made a point to show everyone watching ... "look, my elbow!"

But as distasteful as James' disappearance in the playoffs was last season, and while he still managed to put up massive statistics (while dominating the ball and turning it over quite a bit, it should be said), something was clearly different with the guy during the two rounds of the playoffs his team worked through.

The passage isn't online (in the latest copy of SLAM, on newsstands now), but ProBasketballTalk has quoted an interview James gave to SLAM's Lang Whitaker recently, regarding the elbow:

"It was pretty bad. It was something we couldn't figure out exactly what it was. There was times where I couldn't fully extend my elbow, and that's my shooting arm. And I do a lot with my right hand [laughs] ... Close to the last week of the season it started hurting a little bit, and then it just got worse throughout the playoffs."

As with all things LeBron-y, this isn't a black-and-white case.

He put up great stats, but the numbers didn't really help his team in a meaningful way.

And while the injury may have had a huge impact on his team going out way too early in the playoffs, Cleveland still should have won last season.

Boston was -- and is -- a great team, but LeBron took the end of that series off. Despite his stats. At least when he went out in 2009, he went down driving. Going at Dwight Howard(notes). Probably ruing the fact that he, and not Ben Wallace(notes), should have been guarding Rashard Lewis(notes). Not last season. LeBron let it happen. This isn't to discredit the Celtics; they earned that win. But LeBron let things ... happen.

And because things aren't black and white, we don't know how much of a hook to give this guy, once discussion about that as-yet-undiagnosed elbow injury comes into play.

But that's LeBron for you.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Remember-LeBron-James-weird-elbow-injury-?urn=nba-276092

[Mr Feeny]

Did I miss something? Don't think Drexler ever won MVP... unless I'm reading this thread incorrectly.

I think Dirk in 07 deserves a mention.

Was he that bad? I remember Nelson coaching the Warriors and them going nuts and eliminating the Mavs but I didn't focus too much on dirk's performance

Individually, was he any worse than rose in 2011? Is that even possible?

Lebron held Rose to 11% (!) On 4th quarter isolations. I don't think it's possible to be emasculated worse than that.

[Fire Colangelo]

Was he that bad? I remember Nelson coaching the Warriors and them going nuts and eliminating the Mavs but I didn't focus too much on dirk's performance

Individually, was he any worse than rose in 2011? Is that even possible?

Lebron held Rose to 11% (!) On 4th quarter isolations. I don't think it's possible to be emasculated worse than that.

Dirk was pretty bad for his standards, something like 20ppg on 38% FG for the series, 8 points on 2/13 shooting in game 6.

Rose was pretty bad, but he was a 22 year old in his third season playing against one of the better perimeter defensive teams in recent memory. He gets a pass from me based on his age and competition he faced at the time.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Lebron 09, Lebron 10

Has there ever been a back-to-back MVP that didn't make the finals even once?!

B-b-but MVPs are legit though, there better than rings.

Yeah I'm sure Steve Nash is happy he won 0 zero rings and 2 MVPs.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[jlip]

Jordan vs. Drexler, 6 threes in a half, shrug game.

Dream vs. Robinson, schooled the Admiral with the dream shake

Lebron vs. Cuckry, blocked Cuckry 6 times and stared him down, Cuckry visibly shook and walked away with head down.

Anymore?

MJ was the '92 MVP. Also, Drexler never won an MVP.

[fsvr54]

Jordan vs. Drexler, 6 threes in a half, shrug game.

Dream vs. Robinson, schooled the Admiral with the dream shake

Lebron vs. Cuckry, blocked Cuckry 6 times and stared him down, Cuckry visibly shook and walked away with head down.

Anymore?

This made me LOL hard

[plowking]

Lebron 09, Lebron 10

Has there ever been a back-to-back MVP that didn't make the finals even once?!

B-b-but MVPs are legit though, there better than rings.

Yeah I'm sure Steve Nash is happy he won 0 zero rings and 2 MVPs.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

No one is going to roast the guy for the stupidity of this comment given the two lines directly underneath it? I mean he roasted himself, but shit... step up ISH.

[AintNoSunshine]

Did I miss something? Don't think Drexler ever won MVP... unless I'm reading this thread incorrectly.

I think Dirk in 07 deserves a mention.


My bad, I was mistaken.

[AintNoSunshine]

No one is going to roast the guy for the stupidity of this comment given the two lines directly underneath it? I mean he roasted himself, but shit... step up ISH.

But look at his user name tho. It's expected and just don't bother.

[Mr Feeny]

Dirk was pretty bad for his standards, something like 20ppg on 38% FG for the series, 8 points on 2/13 shooting in game 6.

Rose was pretty bad, but he was a 22 year old in his third season playing against one of the better perimeter defensive teams in recent memory. He gets a pass from me based on his age and competition he faced at the time.

Ouch.

[Psileas]

Larry Bird clearly outplaying Dr.J in '81 easily deserves a mention.

[NumberSix]

0 FMVP votes.

[MP.Trey]

Yes, LeBron 10' was probably the worst considering he was malingering



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Remember-LeBron-James-weird-elbow-injury-?urn=nba-276092
The irony. Sounds exactly like the excuses you used for Curry. ZOMG HE IS INJURED. IGNORE THE FACT HE PUT UP MONSTER NUMBERS WHEN "INJURED" AND THEN CHOKED WHEN THE REAL PRESSURE STARTED, JUST TRUST ME, HE'S INJURED!

[j3lademaster]

'07 Dirk & '11 Rose are contenders as wellNeither of those guys' teams are winning in blowout fashion if they have a 11pt 5 to 27 % shooting game. And their respective teams don't get out of the 1st and 2nd rounds with ease without them, or have a better +/- with them on the bench in the finals. Also, Rose gets a ton of shit for that mvp to this day, Curry was unanimous and many considered him the goat scorer in the regular season.

[j3lademaster]

Dream vs. Robinson, schooled the Admiral with the dream shakeRobinson still had a respectable series and was the driving force for the Spurs' 2 wins in that series. He was an elite defensive anchor that series, and there wasn't one game where you would doubt he's his team's best player, let alone cost them games like Curry very well could have.

[Dragonyeuw]

Lebron 09, Lebron 10

Has there ever been a back-to-back MVP that didn't make the finals even once?!

B-b-but MVPs are legit though, there better than rings.

Yeah I'm sure Steve Nash is happy he won 0 zero rings and 2 MVPs.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

:hammerhead:

[AintNoSunshine]

Neither of those guys' teams are winning in blowout fashion if they have a 11pt 5 to 27 % shooting game. And their respective teams don't get out of the 1st and 2nd rounds with ease without them, or have a better +/- with them on the bench in the finals. Also, Rose gets a ton of shit for that mvp to this day, Curry was unanimous and many considered him the goat scorer in the regular season.
I totally agree with you. I thought this was the most humiliating performance for a MVP, the first unanimous one no less.

But I had to put something else in the OP otherwise they think I'm hating on Cuckry:facepalm

[Pointguard]

Was he that bad? I remember Nelson coaching the Warriors and them going nuts and eliminating the Mavs but I didn't focus too much on dirk's performance

Individually, was he any worse than rose in 2011? Is that even possible?

Lebron held Rose to 11% (!) On 4th quarter isolations. I don't think it's possible to be emasculated worse than that.

I guess everybody here is too young to have seen Dirk's travesty. Its not even in the same category as Rose. Rose was the second leading scorer in a series that had three other HOFers in their prime. Rose kept every game close without much offensive help and guarded Wade as good as anybody ever guarded a healthy Wade. Lebron has a history of guarding PG's very well but it was a team effort here. Rose was doubled, tripled and trapped extensively every game while the Bulls couldn't counter it. He shot better from three than Dirk did in the Warrior's series. He lead a very young team to the Conference Finals and fought hard that series and had already won dramatic series on his back. Including killing a team that killed the runner up MVP's team.

But Dirk... whoa.

In the last game one FG in the 4th and only 1 basket in the second half
In the 3rd game no FG in the 4th and only 1 basket in the second half.
In game 2 one FG in the 4th. Dirk does make free throws.
In game 1 no FGs in the 4th. 1 fg in the second half. Howard and Harris take over the team. Tone is set for the series.

This was against the team that gave up the most points in the league and an 8 seed going up against a one seed. Dirk was thoroughly outplayed by Stephen Jackson (Jackson even outscored Dirk in the series by a pretty big margin) Jackson's biggest personal career achievement was making the McDonald's High School all American team. Even when Dallas beat the Warrior's Jackson had outplayed Dirk. I don't understand why its even a question. No other MVP has lost as 1 seed in the first round and playing the worse defensive team in the playoffs.

[AintNoSunshine]

I guess everybody here is too young to have seen Dirk's travesty. Its not even in the same category as Rose. Rose was the second leading scorer in a series that had three other HOFers in their prime. Rose kept every game close without much offensive help and guarded Wade as good as anybody ever guarded a healthy Wade. Lebron has a history of guarding PG's very well but it was a team effort here. Rose was doubled, tripled and trapped extensively every game while the Bulls couldn't counter it. He shot better from three than Dirk did in the Warrior's series. He lead a very young team to the Conference Finals and fought hard that series and had already won dramatic series on his back. Including killing a team that killed the runner up MVP's team.

But Dirk... whoa.

In the last game one FG in the 4th and only 1 basket in the second half
In the 3rd game no FG in the 4th and only 1 basket in the second half.
In game 2 one FG in the 4th. Dirk does make free throws.
In game 1 no FGs in the 4th. 1 fg in the second half. Howard and Harris take over the team. Tone is set for the series.

This was against the team that gave up the most points in the league and an 8 seed going up against a one seed. Dirk was thoroughly outplayed by Stephen Jackson (Jackson even outscored Dirk in the series by a pretty big margin) Jackson's biggest personal career achievement was making the McDonald's High School all American team. Even when Dallas beat the Warrior's Jackson had outplayed Dirk. I don't understand why its even a question. No other MVP has lost as 1 seed in the first round and playing the worse defensive team in the playoffs.

Wow I either didn't pay much attention at the time or forgot about all of these. But I think we got a winner here:eek:

[Mr Feeny]

Wow I either didn't pay much attention at the time or forgot about all of these. But I think we got a winner here:eek:

Yup. I'm surprised too. I don't remember much except that it was chaotic at the time. The Warriors offense seemed to be messy with everyone shooting from everywhere and Baron Davis making some insane shots while the media were talking about how the mavs and Avery Johnson couldn't stand a chance against Nelson. But I don't remember much about dirk's performance himself. I didn't focus or pay attention to him specifically either.
All I could think about was how a 67 win team and the team I was sure would win the title went out in the first round to the Warriors. Jessica alba was at the Oracle watching the last game if I recall.

[LilEddyCurry]

Game 6, the mouthpiece game.

[Cone]

Curry this year. I know he isnt an all-time great like LeBron, but I've NEVER EVER seen a single player mentally, physically, psychologically, and emotionally destroy a single player so bad than what LeBron did to Curry.

He got into his head HARD! Was a beaut to watch. Just incredible.