View Full Version : Predict Hassan Whiteside's 2016-17 Season averages
Reminder: He will be featured player, with a much higher usage next season.
Last season:
14.2 ppg
11.8rpg
3.7 bpg
60% FG
63% TS
25.7 PER
Let's see em!
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TheNaturalWR
08-05-2016, 05:02 PM
His field goal percentage might dip actually as he's not that skilled in the post but he does have a nice touch around the rim. He'll severely miss the 6-8 points a game, Wade spoon-fed him.
I'm predicting 17PPG/13RPG/3.5BPG on 55% FG and 60-65% FT. Would really like to see him improve his low post defense instead of being just a rim protector. Watching him against Al Jefferson and Jonas was pretty rough.
TheWinningFam
08-05-2016, 05:06 PM
17ppg 11 rpg
MP.Trey
08-05-2016, 07:47 PM
Honestly, I see his offense dropping off big without Wade there to get him the ball. Dragic doesn't look for the big man much in what I've seen and Hassan isn't exactly Hakeem Olajuwon in the post. Although they no longer have much offensive support so he should see more touches.
Could see identical numbers but with a fairly sizeable FG% dip.
Spurs m8
08-05-2016, 07:54 PM
Eh, his stats are empty, he's not taking the team far overall
Honestly, I see his offense dropping off big without Wade there to get him the ball. Dragic doesn't look for the big man much in what I've seen and Hassan isn't exactly Hakeem Olajuwon in the post. Although they no longer have much offensive support so he should see more touches.
Could see identical numbers but with a fairly sizeable FG% dip.
For the the misinformed,
Pick-and-roll chemistry is just one slice of the Heat’s overall play. Interestingly, Whiteside posted superior numbers without Wade.
Per StatsCube, Whiteside registered a 30.3 PER without Wade on the floor. When Wade was out there? Whiteside’s PER fell to “just” 23.9. Even without Wade’s assistance, Whiteside still shot 60.6 percent from the floor last season, aided by floor-spacing rookie Josh Richardson, who shot 53-of-115 (46.1 percent) from deep last season. With fewer bodies packing the paint, Whiteside enjoyed more space to work in.
http://slicemiami.com/2016/07/15/whtieside-whiteside-without-dwyane-wade/
On the contrary, all the objective information says floor spacing helped aid Whiteside's scoring output and overall offensive production more than Wade's screen and roll dump offs.
FireDavidKahn
08-06-2016, 01:27 AM
Whitesides improvement has to come on the defensive end....because right now he is fools gold. He is extremely elite as a shot blocker only if you are coming straight right at him...other than that his defense is very bad.
FireDavidKahn
08-06-2016, 01:29 AM
And his biggest area, by far, is needing to improve his maturity beyond a Kindergarten level.
Papaya Petee
08-06-2016, 03:47 AM
I cant way to see this disaster without Wade closing games down the stretch.
17/12/2.5 on 55% FG
Human Error
08-06-2016, 06:50 AM
He'll severely miss the 6-8 points a game, Wade spoon-fed him.
Wade gave him an alley-oop per maybe every 3 or 4 games. It's very retarded to think that out of his 14 points, 6 or 8 were created by Wade. I agree that his field goal percentage will go down though, with more touches, he will have to create on his own more. He will still be a very efficient scorer though. 17ppg on 55% fg sounds about right.
Lebron23
08-06-2016, 06:51 AM
I cant way to see this disaster without Wade closing games down the street.
17/12/2.5 on 55% FG
This
MP.Trey
08-06-2016, 07:23 AM
For the the misinformed,
http://slicemiami.com/2016/07/15/whtieside-whiteside-without-dwyane-wade/
On the contrary, all the objective information says floor spacing helped aid Whiteside's scoring output and overall offensive production more than Wade's screen and roll dump offs.
Interesting stat, but it only really further enforces what I said on that article. It says itself that Dragic looked for Whiteside pretty much half the time Wade did, and with more of an onus on creating his own shot this year, I still think his FG% will dip.
I could be wrong, i have been before, but from watching a couple dozen Heat games last year I think Whiteside benefitted a lot more from Wade than those stats might show.
G-train
08-06-2016, 08:31 AM
Maybe Dragon will have opportunity to throw it to Whiteside in the post instead of standing in corner while Wade dribbles around and shoots fadeaway contested shots.
Im Still Ballin
08-06-2016, 08:40 AM
For the the misinformed,
http://slicemiami.com/2016/07/15/whtieside-whiteside-without-dwyane-wade/
On the contrary, all the objective information says floor spacing helped aid Whiteside's scoring output and overall offensive production more than Wade's screen and roll dump offs.
Interesting stats, good post.
Heat will be an interesting team.. If their gamble on these promising rookies pay off, they might be in playoff contention
senelcoolidge
08-06-2016, 02:20 PM
17/12/2.5 on 55% FG
This sounds good. But the blocks will will be at nearly 3.
aj1987
08-06-2016, 05:56 PM
This sounds good. But the blocks will will be at nearly 3.
19/14/2/5 and 50 games played. Hassan can't play a run and gun offense. BTW, Spo... :roll: :roll:
HiphopRelated
08-06-2016, 08:07 PM
Maybe Dragon will have opportunity to throw it to Whiteside in the post instead of standing in corner while Wade dribbles around and shoots fadeaway contested shots.
Dude passed off to Josh Richardson when games slowed down.
This season has halfcourt train wreck written all over it
A light work 18/14 double double with 4 blocks to start his all star campaign. Too easy.
Dragonyeuw
10-27-2016, 08:14 AM
About the same as last year but on lower %....
Phenith
10-27-2016, 08:38 AM
Hard to tell really, the guy didn't last in the league out of college for a reason. As others have pointed out, despite his high blocks, he really isn't that good of an overall defender, and he doesn't have much in his offensive toolbox.
He's 26 and doesn't have a lot of NBA miles on his body which is a plus, but he is going into his prime here in the next couple of years, his room for improvement isn't very big. A duplication of last year would be best case scenario IMO(points up a bit, fg% down a bit). He may improve the small things in his game, but not stuff that will change what his stat line looks like a whole lot.
The fool's gold term seems most apt, he puts up great numbers for fantasy, but his real game impact isn't as big.
r0drig0lac
10-27-2016, 08:40 AM
20 points
13 rebounds
3.5 blocks
BigKAT
10-27-2016, 08:44 AM
I think points will go up, efficency will stay the same.
But I think rebounds and blocks might see a dip as he'll be asked to exert much more energy on Offense and perhaps even Defense as the Heat lost Deng, Jonhson and Wade, and we don't know how many players will get past Tyler Johnson and Richardson (talented but raw on D) to the paint, for him to challange.
f0und
10-27-2016, 09:54 AM
20pts
14rebs
4blks
59% fg
on a side note, his man to man defense needs to improve. it blows my mind how he can be so good at reb and blocks, and at the same time be totally mediocre at man to man defense.
Said this in another thread, but assuming he gets enough MPG, I can honestly see something like 18/15 with 4+ blocks per game. First time all-star this year I bet.
Dragonyeuw
10-27-2016, 10:35 AM
Unless he's done major work on his offensive game this summer, I don't see his PPG going up to 20ppg without Wade there feeding him easy buckets.
Watching the game last night definitely highlighted what people say about his defense. Phenomenal rim protector, but he definitely got fooled badly by Vucevic a few times (at least once for sure he got shook but Vucevic luckily missed the shot. Also left him open another time or two) Something to work on. And he still has tunnel vision although he did have a nice assist.
Unless he's done major work on his offensive game this summer, I don't see his PPG going up to 20ppg without Wade there feeding him easy buckets.
Clearly you're ignorant on Whiteside and his abilities, if you believe any of that to be accurate.
See page one in this thread. Post number 6.
Clearly you're ignorant on Whiteside and his abilities, if you believe any of that to be accurate.
See page one in this thread. Post number 6.
I don't see 20 PPG man. 18 is the most I can see personally. You may say "well it's only 2 PPG" but idk.
In recent years the only centers who have scored 20+ PPG:
Dwight
Al Jefferson
Brook Lopez
Cousins
Is all I can think of.
Dragonyeuw
10-27-2016, 11:03 AM
Clearly you're ignorant on Whiteside and his abilities, if you believe any of that to be accurate.
See page one in this thread. Post number 6.
I don't see 20ppg from him this year, regardless of your point that he was better without Wade in a limited sample size last year. Let's revisit this 82 games from now.
aj1987
10-27-2016, 11:55 AM
19/14/2/5 and 50 games played. Hassan can't play a run and gun offense. BTW, Spo... :roll: :roll:
Looks like I was pretty close.... after the first game. Now he just has to maintain it for an entire season. Won't be mad if he averages more and I'm wrong in this case though.
Just absolutely dominant. Can't believe the Heat found a franchise center in the D-league
17/16 3 blocks thus far early on, and has 28/10 and 2 blocks thru 3 quarters tonight as I type this.
bobopenguin
11-22-2016, 03:12 AM
this guy is really a gem.
avonbarksdale
11-22-2016, 03:13 AM
fanduel superstar
DoctorP
11-22-2016, 04:28 AM
Whiteside's good.
pts 20
rbs 14
Phenith
11-22-2016, 09:23 AM
Hard to tell really, the guy didn't last in the league out of college for a reason. As others have pointed out, despite his high blocks, he really isn't that good of an overall defender, and he doesn't have much in his offensive toolbox.
He's 26 and doesn't have a lot of NBA miles on his body which is a plus, but he is going into his prime here in the next couple of years, his room for improvement isn't very big. A duplication of last year would be best case scenario IMO(points up a bit, fg% down a bit). He may improve the small things in his game, but not stuff that will change what his stat line looks like a whole lot.
The fool's gold term seems most apt, he puts up great numbers for fantasy, but his real game impact isn't as big.
Early look would say I hit this on the head. His pts are up, fg% down, rebs up, blks down, assists up, ft% down, big numbers, team not doing that well.
All in all, he's pretty much giving you the same type of great fantasy stat line but the Heat aren't winning games because of it.
DoctorP
11-22-2016, 09:58 AM
Early look would say I hit this on the head. His pts are up, fg% down, rebs up, blks down, assists up, ft% down, big numbers, team not doing that well.
All in all, he's pretty much giving you the same type of great fantasy stat line but the Heat aren't winning games because of it.
Every great center needs great guard play to win. Hassan's not the problem.
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