Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

[scuzzy]

Lets account for Lebron and Kobe's playoff runs, including the opponents they lost to.

- M.O.V.=Margin of victory weight of its opponent-adjusted scoring margin by the importance of each game http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=923

- S.O.S.=Strength of schedule was determined using the pre-series Elo ratings of a team’s opponents. Games were weighted according to how much they swung each team’s title odds.
ex: 2016 Cavaliers pre-series win probability (ELO) against the Warriors was 27.4%

- Rating= SOS and MOV combined

YEAR..CHAMP...M.O.V...S.O.S...RATING

2014...Spurs....+12.9...+4.5.....+17.4
2001...Lakers...+10.....+4.9.....+14.9
2016...Cavalier+6.1....+8.6......+14.7
2015...Warrior..+8.4....+6.1.....+14.5
2008...Celtics...+7.4....+4.7.....+12.1
2009...Lakers....+8.3....+6.2.....+14.5
2004...Detroit...+7.2....+4.6.....+11.8
2012...Miami....+6.6....+5.1.....+11.7
2011...Dallas....+4.3....+6.9.....+11.2
2002...Lakers....+4.6....+6.1.....+10.7
2010...Lakers....+4.5....+5.4.....+9.9
2007...Spurs.....+5.3....+4.3.....+9.6
2013...Miami.....+3.9....+4.5.....+8.4
2000...Lakers....+2.6....+4.3.....+6.9

Championship teams
Lebron avg M.O.V. = 5.7
Kobes avg M.O.V. = 6

Lebron avg S.O.S. = 6
Kobes avg S.O.S. = 5.38

Opponents Average
Lebrons M.O.V = 7.7
Kobes M.O.V. = 7.3

Lebron S.O.S.= 5.45
Kobes S.O.S. = 4.7

When you combine BOTH Champion teams avg and Opponent avg

Lebron Teams M.O.V + S.O.S. 24.85

Kobes Teams M.O.V. + S.O.S 23.38

For Playoff runs, Lebron's teams and his Finals opponents had better margins of victory and faced tougher opponents than Kobe's teams and his opponents.

Lebron's Finals teams not only had greater playoff journeys than Kobe's but the teams Lebron faced had much greater journeys also. Giving the conclusion Lebrons faced much more adversity in his Finals losses

[stalkerforlife]

July 8th, 2010.

July 11th, 2014.

Focus.

It's over.

[scuzzy]

July 8th, 2010.

July 11th, 2014.

Focus.

It's over.

Wake up Wake up Wake up

First of the Month

Get up Get up Get up

So Cash Your Checks and Come Up

[Dray n Klay]

WOW great thread, as usual :applause:




Another L for Kobevestities

[Im Still Ballin]

Great post!

[TheWinningFam]

Do jordan next, we should be comparing lebron with other top 5 greats not top 12 :applause:

[scuzzy]

^^^ :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


Do jordan next, we should be comparing lebron with other top 5 greats not top 12 :applause:

good call, i'll cook one up :cheers:

[Dray n Klay]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/LeBron+James+2012+NBA+Finals+Game+Five+S2UK49QUxY5 l.jpg

[Dr Hawk]

I guess you already have the keys "K" "O" "B" and "E" erased from the keyboard

[lilteapot]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/15/66/bf/1566bfed951d777104fede5930260ea2.jpg

[Mr Feeny]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/15/66/bf/1566bfed951d777104fede5930260ea2.jpg

:lol

[JT123]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/LeBron+James+2012+NBA+Finals+Game+Five+S2UK49QUxY5 l.jpg
Have to agree. :cheers:
That Thunder team with 3 MVP caliber players is MUCH better than any team Kobe ever beat in the Finals. It's honestly pretty sad once you realize that Kobe's most impressive Finals win came against a group of geriatrics :oldlol:

[Cone]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4fd16c7fecad043b4d000001-506-253/lebron-james-tore-the-heart-out-of-the-celtics-with-a-devastating-45-point-performance.jpg

[Big164]

http://ingeniouswebsitesolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/404.jpg

[SouBeachTalents]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtLjIXezfoDh9Y1pdhnZ0zBvqnMJw-_RRsTI8mnp6tpRUzQSfK

Sort of like Wilt in the Finals

[Big164]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/lakers-vs-heat-winning-streaks.jpg

This was the closest little dipper ever got to breaking one of Wilt's records.

[ScalsFan21]

I think LeBron's on-court impact was BETTER than Kobe's ever was years prior to this, but I'll be unbiased and factor in both individual play and accolades... I'll say the 2013 Finals. That was when I think we all realized "damn... same number of rings as the man AND the better player on both ends? It's done. Have fun being consensus not top 10 forever, Mamba."

Remember these days, fellow Bransvestites? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRLcOKQiuvA We've come a long way. :bowdown: :rockon:

LeBeast.

[Cone]

I think LeBron's on-court impact was BETTER than Kobe's ever was years prior to this, but I'll be unbiased and factor in both individual play and accolades... I'll say the 2013 Finals. That was when I think we all realized "damn... same number of rings as the man AND the better player on both ends? It's done. Have fun being consensus not top 10 forever, Mamba."

Remember these days, fellow Bransvestites? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRLcOKQiuvA We've come a long way. :bowdown: :rockon:

LeBeast.

True haha. I remember when Kobetards used to say "5>0" all day every day. I mean damn. they were threatened by king james before he even won a ring.

[red1]

2009 lebron is better than any version of kobe

[Ca$H]

http://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2016/06/11/834ec07f-4b3e-420a-bc3d-345fda25ef35/thumbnail/770x433/a0f7233111c15059ffd295b0de99c7ec/draynuts.png

[ZMonkey11]

True haha. I remember when Kobetards used to say "5>0" all day every day. I mean damn. they were threatened by king james before he even won a ring.

No they weren't threatened. Its all you kobetards and lebeej idiots arguing with each other in some sort of intricate ISH circle jerk that still continues to this day.

2007 is when. LEbeej surpassed kobe. He took a team with no business being decent into the finals. If I replaced kobe with any version of LeBron 2007+ on the Lakers, he would have taken all those chips easy, he would have had 2008. That's six chips and then add his next 3 for 9 chips.

[MintBerryCrunch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTM0ttDAnh8

[TomCat]

http://ingeniouswebsitesolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/404.jpg

[I know you are]

http://ingeniouswebsitesolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/404.jpg
Would be hilarious if that was an accident.

[InsanityKills]

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/5/005/095/20e/3216922.jpg

[tmacattack33]

Sorry for the lack of pics, i'm busy...



Peak-wise: Insert a picture of Lebron at the end of his 2009 season




Legacy-wise: Insert a picture of Lebron hitting that shot against Parker at the end of Game 7 of the 2013 Finals

[Fudge]

Trolling aside...

http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/lebron-james-wins-mvpjpg-0ac2c296d5652830_large.jpg

[Mr Feeny]

Trolling aside...

http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/lebron-james-wins-mvpjpg-0ac2c296d5652830_large.jpg

Which one was that? He won 4 and it's not clear which year you're referring to.

[scuzzy]

Lebron surpassed Kobe

by talent (eye-test): 08

by accolades: 13

by high IQ bball fans: 08-10

by most fans: 09-11

by media: 10-12

by all fans: 12-13

by Kobe's own fanbase: 15-16 (RIP kobe fam)

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron surpassed Kobe

by talent (eye-test): 08

by accolades: 13

by high IQ bball fans: 08-10

by most fans: 09-11

by media: 10-12

by all fans: 12-13

by Kobe's own fanbase: 15-16 (RIP kobe fam)

That last one:oldlol:

[Orlando Magic]

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/NBCSports/Sections/Personal/Jervay,%20John/Lebron%20James/080407_Lebron-James_draft.grid-5x2.jpg

[Dray n Klay]

Meanwhile in LeBrons 12 seasons as a 1st option (03-10) (12-16) he made the Finals 6 times




How did LeBron manage to make twice as many finals as Kobe in the same amount of seasons as a 1st option?

[TheWinningFam]

Think about it, Lebron scored more, assisted more, and rebounded more and won more as the third option on a ''stacked'' 47 win heat team in his first year than kobe did as the league dog with a system molded around him on a lakers team coming off back to back championships. embarrasing :lol :lol

[I know you are]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?

[Inferno]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?

:roll:

[Mr Feeny]

Meanwhile in LeBrons 12 seasons as a 1st option (03-10) (12-16) he made the Finals 6 times




How did LeBron manage to make twice as many finals as Kobe in the same amount of seasons as a 1st option?


Omg wait I have to go drop Kobe another spot from my all time list:roll:

[Dray n Klay]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?

I can neither confirm nor deny this





Oh




And

...






#rentfree

[tamaraw08]

Meanwhile in LeBrons 12 seasons as a 1st option (03-10) (12-16) he made the Finals 6 times




How did LeBron manage to make twice as many finals as Kobe in the same amount of seasons as a 1st option?

Ahh plan for the day in a basement of his mom

Eat, take a crap, think of more negative things about Kobe and post it in ISH.

Day 2, just like Day one
Day 3....

[SexSymbol]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?
:roll: :roll:

[SexSymbol]

Meanwhile in LeBrons 12 seasons as a 1st option (03-10) (12-16) he made the Finals 6 times




How did LeBron manage to make twice as many finals as Kobe in the same amount of seasons as a 1st option?
to answer OPs question, by running from team to team trying to collude, instead of conquer.

[TheWinningFam]

http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/Cavs/kid-lebron.jpg

[Fudge]

Which one was that? He won 4 and it's not clear which year you're referring to.
His first MVP.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'll say that LeBron of 2008, 2009, and 2010 was a better on court performer and producer than Kobe ever was. It was that stretch when his jumper became more consistent and he improved defensively that emphatically made him the better basketball player.

Not until the end of the 2013 season after winning back to back rings, back to back Finals MVPs, and repeat of back to back MVPs that the case was closed statistically, impact and resume wise as him being better once he matched the ring total as "the man" with Kobe.

Taking a Love and Kyrie less team to the Finals after coming back home, and subsequently beating the massive favorite 73 win Warriors pretty much dumped a truck load of dirt on any possible sane argument of Kobe being better than LeBron. Accompanied with ESPN already ranking dude top 5 ever, at 31 years old, with many years left of great ball?

And you can see why the Kobe stans have been having heart attack melt downs, with a chaser of depression ever since the Finals ended in June.

There is no argument now. Not even a discussion really. LeBron had totally elevated himself to a higher level than Kobe ever was. Mamba is far back in the rear view mirror, and LeBron still has more pulling away to do on the gas pedal before he's done.

Nah, Kobe still has more rangz and LeBron never scored 81

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'll say that LeBron of 2008, 2009, and 2010 was a better on court performer and producer than Kobe ever was. It was that stretch when his jumper became more consistent and he improved defensively that emphatically made him the better basketball player.

Not until the end of the 2013 season after winning back to back rings, back to back Finals MVPs, and repeat of back to back MVPs was the nail in the coffin statistically, impact and resume wise as him being better once he matched the ring total as "the man" with Kobe.

Taking a Love and Kyrie less team to the Finals after coming back home, and subsequently beating the massive favorite 73 win Warriors pretty much dumped a truck load of dirt on any possible sane argument of Kobe being better than LeBron. Accompanied with ESPN already ranking dude top 5 ever, at 31 years old, with many years left of great ball?

And you can see why the Kobe stans have been having heart attack melt downs, with a chaser of depression ever since the Finals ended in June.

There is no argument now. Not even a discussion really. LeBron had totally elevated himself to a higher level than Kobe ever was. Mamba is far back in the rear view mirror, and LeBron still has more pulling away to do on the gas pedal before he's done.

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron surpassed Kobe

by talent (eye-test): 08

by accolades: 13

by high IQ bball fans: 08-10

by most fans: 09-11

by media: 10-12

by all fans: 12-13

by Kobe's own fanbase: 15-16 (RIP kobe fam)

:applause:

[JT123]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?
Just conducted an ip check on both accounts. I am pleased to report that not only are they different posters, they are not even in the same country.
If anyone has anymore concerns about possible alts, let me know and I will get to the bottom of it.

[Paul George 24]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/LeBron+James+2012+NBA+Finals+Game+Five+S2UK49QUxY5 l.jpg
DUNCAN >>>>>>>>>>> LEBRON :banana:

[I<3NBA]

i think we can cut him some slack regarding the finals. it's tough being in the west. but surely he could at least make the playoffs right? how many playoffs did he make as a first option?

[TommyGriffin]

^ You 2 are the same poster, right?
:roll:

[knicksman]

At the end of the day, kobe is respected more. Only losers respect cowards

[SpecialQue]

I don't get the anger. Lebron just won a championship. Why are y'all still so damn salty that Kobe was the better player and is higher on the GOAT list? You should be happy that your guy finally got the help he needed to win again.

[warriorfan]

Kobe won back to back titles with less help than LeBron

(Kobe only needed Pau Gasol while LeBron needed Chris Bosh AND Dwyane Wade)1



References:
1. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415706

[knicksman]

Coz the truth hurts. Only losers respect cowards.

[Doranku]

Kobe won back to back titles with less help than LeBron

(Kobe only needed Pau Gasol while LeBron needed Chris Bosh AND Dwyane Wade)1



References:
1. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415706

Not to mention 2016 Kyrie Irving >>>>>> any version of Pau Gasol

[Megabox!]

OP should change his name to SpecialED after making a thread like this

[Ben Simmons]

Not to mention 2016 Kyrie Irving >>>>>> any version of Pau Gasol
Let's be honest, The Warriors were better than any team Kobe beat.

[Doranku]

Let's be honest, The Warriors were better than any team Kobe beat.

The 2010 Celtics are more scary than the Warriors in a playoff setting, especially with how poorly Steph, Klay, and Draymond played overall.

Steph and Klay got locked up by f*cking Kyrie Irving and JR Smith. Imagine what the Celtics D would do to those guys. :oldlol:

[knicksman]

Good god you Kobe fanboys are pathetic

"Why u guys so worried bout kobe? Lol?

You thought the two years "2/6-2/7" wouldnt rain hell if it didnt go in your favor?


Nope sorry, you "kobe" fans do nothing but lurk this board soley for Lebrons failure, period. And the drop in 95% of you Laker fans after the finals prove this

Lebron fans heard it the past two years, now the tables turned

Dont u dare cry "why u worried about kobe doe"

U fckn serious? :lol

You guys really gunna whine all year about lebron fans teasin kobe after hearing them do it for the past two?

Nah

Atleast lebron fans stood around and took it last summer, kobe fam POOF! Gone


Stood around by hiding behind alts. Youre just another coward brah

[Spurs m8]

Yeah look, most people don't think Kobe is the better player, because he wasn't.

The fact Laker fans feel the need to start these threads daily, shows how scared they are.



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IoFWPA1eFhA/UpjgvPckNOI/AAAAAAAAAHo/QdQMTd5lEJk/s640/Kobe's+Records.jpg

[tpols]

The 2010 Celtics are more scary than the Warriors in a playoff setting, especially with how poorly Steph, Klay, and Draymond played overall.

Steph and Klay got locked up by f*cking Kyrie Irving and JR Smith. Imagine what the Celtics D would do to those guys. :oldlol:

but thats only when you consider the injuries /nuetering.. imagine if perkins got hurt even earlier, KG got suspended mid series, and tony allen got maimed.. the celtics were in much better shape than the Warriors down the stretch.

[JT123]

The 2010 Celtics are more scary than the Warriors in a playoff setting
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

All you LeBron haters did last season was tell how Curry was the best player in the league, and how LeBron going 2/7 in the Finals was a lock. Now that the complete opposite happened, LeBron is unanimously considered the best player in the league, and Curry was embarrassed so bad this 16 Finals loss will be forever a black mark on his career. And now you're getting upset about the LeBron talk? It's going to be a long offseason still for a lot of you posters.

[Ben Simmons]

The 2010 Celtics are more scary than the Warriors in a playoff setting, especially with how poorly Steph, Klay, and Draymond played overall.

Steph and Klay got locked up by f*cking Kyrie Irving and JR Smith. Imagine what the Celtics D would do to those guys. :oldlol:
Nah, your taking too much credit away. Curry and Klay still played at a higher level than anyone on the celtics offensively.

[Doranku]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Having PTSD from when the 2010 Celtics made your boy literally start packing his bags for Southbeach, mid playoff series? :oldlol:

[knicksman]

proof that bran stans dont know shit about basketball. Celtics were on pace to win 70+ in 2008-09 season until garnett got injured.

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron only has better numbers, more MVPs, more Finals MVPs, and more historically great playoff moments. Kobe has two more rings because he was blessed to be drafted to a team that signed Shaq in the offseason :oldlol: You guys are grasping at straws that still want to argue Kobe is better. The 16 Finals win alone blows anything Kobe did door's off.

[SilkkTheShocker]

proof that bran stans dont know shit about basketball. Celtics were on pace to win 70+ in 2008-09 season until garnett got injured.

Yea, LA didn't beat that team. Idiot. :oldlol:

[Doranku]

Nah, your taking too much credit away. Curry and Klay still played at a higher level than anyone on the celtics offensively.

And the Celtics played at a much higher level defensively than the Warriors did. The Celtics held LA to under 100 points every game outside of game 1.

The Warriors gave up 110+ to the Cavs three different games. :lol

[SilkkTheShocker]

Having PTSD from when the 2010 Celtics made your boy literally start packing his bags for Southbeach, mid playoff series? :oldlol:

Kobe demanded a trade when he couldn't beat the Suns. And Lamar Odom and Bynum were better than anyone on the 2010 Cavs not named LeBron. I repeat, your favorite player literally begged for a trade because he was first round fodder.

[TylerOO]

Lol...

RIIIIIIGHTTTTTTT

[AirBonner]

Comparing kobe to Lebron is like comparing kobe to Jordan. There is no comparison.

[tpols]

Kobe asked to go play with Luol Deng on the Bulls..

Lebron actually joined up w/ prime Dwayne Wade.


:yaohappy:

[NBAGOAT]

ish is not exactly the place to go for a legit list but besides an analyst here or there, you're going have a hard time finding a list with Kobe above Lebron from this year post June. RealGM Reddit etc.

[Indian guy]

Kobe fans dedicate a freaking decade to being the world biggest bitches concerning LeBron, then have the nerve to ask why LeBron fans can't stop sh!tting on them :rolleyes:

Don't even act like you guys didn't have this coming to you. And boy is it sweet to see you so ****ed up over it :oldlol:. You can just feel the pain oozing out of their posts. Good. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group. Kobe fans are, and always have been, the lowest of the low. Looking back, it still boggles my mind the extent to which LeBron petrified them. How every single one of them made it their life's mission to relentlessly hate and diminish anything LeBron did in order to protect their GOD.

And :oldlol: @ LeBron fans being angry. Where?? And why?? The only thing I've seen all summer is LeBron fans celebrating the fact that the entire universe recognizes him as a top 3-5 player of ALL TIME, far ahead of Kobe. And we know that kills you Kobe fans. Absolutely kills you. A decade full of shameless trolling and at the end of the day, none of it mattered. LeBron won.

[Sarcastic]

2 wrongs don't make a right.

[Doranku]

Kobe demanded a trade when he couldn't beat the Suns. And Lamar Odom and Bynum were better than anyone on the 2010 Cavs not named LeBron. I repeat, your favorite player literally begged for a trade because he was first round fodder.

lol @ Bynum being better than Mo Williams, dude averaged 7/6 and 9/7 in '09 and '10 respectively during the playoffs. He was nothing more than a role playing big.

And yeah, because demanding a trade from a team with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown playing 40 minutes a game is more embarrassing than abandoning your hometown team to join Prime Wade & Prime Bosh, and then just 4 years later joining Prime Kyrie and Prime KLove in Cleveland. :oldlol:

insert warriorfanPER.jpg

[SilkkTheShocker]

Kobe asked to go play with Luol Deng on the Bulls..

Lebron actually joined up w/ prime Dwayne Wade.


:yaohappy:
He quit and demanded a trade. You can sugarcoat it all you want. But he still quit and demanded a trade. And for the record, the Bulls at that time were considered one player away from being a force.

[Fudge]

Didn't know you had this big of a meltdown in you, OP. You're usually laid back when we beat on dat ass.

Why all the sudden rage? Is it becoming all too overwhelming for you now?

:lol

[Doranku]

How would you know? Your ass was completely MIA all season up until the final buzzer of game 7. :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

lol @ Bynum being better than Mo Williams, dude averaged 7/6 and 9/7 in '09 and '10 respectively during the playoffs. He was nothing more than a role playing big.

And yeah, because demanding a trade from a team with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown playing 40 minutes a game is more embarrassing than abandoning your hometown team to join Prime Wade & Prime Bosh, and then just 4 years later joining Prime Kyrie and Prime KLove in Cleveland. :oldlol:

insert warriorfanPER.jpg
Keep defending it. LeBron never demanded a trade. And he played for the Cavs when they had no cap space and teams avoided Cleveland like the plague. You can't bash LeBron for anything he did in free agency because he was a free agent. Kobe legit demanded to be moved from LA. And even tossed his teammates under the buss doing so.

[warriorfan]

OP, have you sniffed any more panties lately?

[scuzzy]

I see some kobe fans squeeling that 10' Celtics = 16' Warriors


2010...Lakers....+4.5....+5.4.....+9.9


was one of the easiest paths to a Championship

[Nilocon165]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp3JmkzUAAEH_rt.jpg
..

[SilkkTheShocker]

3 FMVPS/4 MVPs >>> 2Finals MVPs/1 MVP

I mean LeBron's 16 Finals win alone s.hits on anything Kobe ever did in the playoff. When did Kobe even win a series where his team was the underdog? :oldlol: You factor in stats and its not even fair. Kobe fans are clinging to an 81 point game, and two rings that Kobe has because he was drafted to the Lakers and not the Cleveland Cavaliers. Who were the Clippers of the eastern conference.

[Hey Yo]

I don't get the anger. Lebron just won a championship. Why are y'all still so damn salty that Kobe was the better player and is higher on the GOAT list? You should be happy that your guy finally got the help he needed to win again.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t146/cmelchor0428/WEAKSAUCE.jpg

[tpols]

He quit and demanded a trade. You can sugarcoat it all you want. But he still quit and demanded a trade. And for the record, the Bulls at that time were considered one player away from being a force.

i'll clue you in .. Lebron quit too. Game 5 (http://www.nba.com/2010/news/07/09/cavs.owner/index.html). And then he went on national television and embarrased his franchise in the worst way imaginable while announcing he would be joining and actually playing with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. The three then proceeded to dance on stage and proclaim themselves forward to have a bill russel level dynasty.


all that ^^ is not the same as kobe simply telling management he wants to be traded to the bulls to play with luol fking deng .. lmao

[warriorfan]

lol @ Bynum being better than Mo Williams, dude averaged 7/6 and 9/7 in '09 and '10 respectively during the playoffs. He was nothing more than a role playing big.

And yeah, because demanding a trade from a team with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown playing 40 minutes a game is more embarrassing than abandoning your hometown team to join Prime Wade & Prime Bosh, and then just 4 years later joining Prime Kyrie and Prime KLove in Cleveland. :oldlol:

insert warriorfanPER.jpg

Bynum '09 Finals stats - 6/4/0.6/0.4/40% TS
Bynum '10 Finals stats - 7/5/0/0.1/51% TS

FYI

Mozgov '15 Finals stats - 14/8/1/1.5/63% TS

[warriorfan]

https://s31.postimg.io/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg

[Doranku]

i'll clue you in .. Lebron quit too. Game 5 (http://www.nba.com/2010/news/07/09/cavs.owner/index.html). And then he went on national television and embarrased his franchise in the worst way imaginable while announcing he would be joining and actually playing with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. The three then proceeded to dance on stage and proclaim themselves forward to have a bill russel level dynasty.


all that ^^ is not the same as kobe simply telling management he wants to be traded to the bulls to play with luol fking deng .. lmao

Cavs were up 2-1 with Game 4 in Cleveland. LeBron proceeds to go 7-18, 3-14, and 8-21 while averaging over 6 turnovers causing the Cavs to lose the next 3 games. :lol

And people want to say Kobe "quit" against the Suns when he put up 23 in the first half against the Suns in game 7. That's more points than LeBron had total in games 4 AND 5. LeBron is the real quitter, not Kobe fellas.

[warriorfan]

Warriorfan deletes/edits his old posts and then reposts them because he gets no attention :oldlol:

like a little puppy dog chewing at your leg that you don't even notice

:yaohappy:
Well it's good to know that at least you always notice my posts. :)

[Fudge]

way too many meltdowns by kobe fans on this page alone.

keep it down, fellas. keep it down.

[knicksman]

Yea, LA didn't beat that team. Idiot. :oldlol:

Just saying that celtics big 3 is as good as the warriors and they didnt play small ball.

[Dray n Klay]

Why are like, 5 different threads that have nothing to do with each other all merged? :oldlol:

[JT123]

Why are like, 5 different threads that have nothing to do with each other all merged? :oldlol:
Mods trying to spare the Kobe stans further humiliation by combining threads :facepalm

[JT123]

i'll clue you in .. Lebron quit too. Game 5 (http://www.nba.com/2010/news/07/09/cavs.owner/index.html). And then he went on national television and embarrased his franchise in the worst way imaginable while announcing he would be joining and actually playing with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. The three then proceeded to dance on stage and proclaim themselves forward to have a bill russel level dynasty.


all that ^^ is not the same as kobe simply telling management he wants to be traded to the bulls to play with luol fking deng .. lmao
:coleman: Really? We can act like he didn't go on Stephen A's radio show and PUBLICLY demand out?!