If the cavs somehow repeat, Are they the GOAT team?

[TheWinningFam]

Would winning 2 straight which could have been 3 straight against the most stacked team in history make them the greatest team in nba history? Discuss.

[Ben Simmons]

Nah. Warriors would just be the GOAT chokers

[HylianNightmare]

They'd certainly be up there

[Freedom Kid7]

IMO they need the regular season to boot to be considered part of the greatest. If they get at least 60 wins and beat Durant, the Bron vs MJ is a lot more feasible

[bigkingsfan]

They already are.

[Sarcastic]

They already are.

They're still behind the 2007 Giants.

[diamenz]

lol, r u kidding me? you really need to put yourself up on nba history, op.

[bigkingsfan]

They're still behind the 2007 Giants.
7 games series are no fluke.

[Sarcastic]

7 games series are no fluke.


Neither was 2007.

Evidence: 2011

[bigkingsfan]

Neither was 2007.

Evidence: 2011
Except they were different teams. Four years is a lot of roster changes.

[Sarcastic]

Except they were different teams. Four years is a lot of roster changes.


Same coaches. Same QBs. Giants were the better team for both games. There was nothing flukey about the Giants winning. The Giants were the better team on both days.

Eli vs Brady: 2-0

Lebron vs Curry: 1-1

[bigkingsfan]

Same coaches. Same QBs. Giants were the better team for both games. There was nothing flukey about the Giants winning. The Giants were the better team on both days.

Eli vs Brady: 2-0

Lebron vs Curry: 1-1

Exactly, single elimination are easier for upsets/flukes. Gronk first game back since the injury too. They might be better on that day but not over a seven game series.

[tpols]

Exactly, single elimination are easier for upsets/flukes. Gronk first game back since the injury too. They might be better on that day but not over a seven game series.

you're ignoring the other side of the coin to a long series .. the fact that a longer series gives a lot more time for bad things to happen either way.. what if the giants played a series with the pats, and rodney harrison got suspended mid series, vince wilfork went down, and welker caught a lingering injury?

[Sarcastic]

Exactly, single elimination are easier for upsets/flukes. Gronk first game back since the injury too. They might be better on that day but not over a seven game series.


Regardless, the Cavs nearly lost in 5 games. It wasn't till the epic choke job by the Warriors that the Cavs were able to come back.

Giants made a great play, and were the better team. The Cavs needed a choke job, and it's debatable whether they were the better team.

[bigkingsfan]

Regardless, the Cavs nearly lost in 5 games. It wasn't till the epic choke job by the Warriors that the Cavs were able to come back.

Giants made a great play, and were the better team. The Cavs needed a choke job, and it's debatable whether they were the better team.
These kind of things even out across a 7 games series, due to adjustment and etc. They dominated game 5, didn't come close to losing.


you're ignoring the other side of the coin to a long series .. the fact that a longer series gives a lot more time for bad things to happen either way.. what if the giants played a series with the pats, and rodney harrison got suspended mid series, vince wilfork went down, and welker caught a lingering injury?
How often do you see NFL upset happens compared to the NBA. You can already pencil the NBA finals for next year, can't say that for the NFL.

[tpols]

How often do you see NFL upset happens compared to the NBA. You can already pencil the NBA finals for next year, can't say that for the NFL.

i agree that theres more parity in the nfl because of 1 and done's.. just acknowledging that there are downsides to long series too.. it gives more time for the better team to lose members.. a 3 or 5 game series would probably be best compromise


as for OP, nice laugh provided lol.. the cavs werent even the most dangerous team last year, they just got a red carpet of fortune rolled out for them that other top teams didnt get .. thunder and spurs got no breaks.. all the west contenders had to face one another at top form.

[Sarcastic]

These kind of things even out across a 7 games series, due to adjustment and etc. They dominated game 5, didn't come close to losing.





Oh you mean when the flukey suspension to Draymond Green happened?

[Sarcastic]

Oh and I love how you can use "Gronk first game back since the injury too." but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about Bogut not even playing in game 6 nor 7. Double standards much?

[Spurs m8]

Op... Stop acting like a stupid warrior fan

[bigkingsfan]

Oh you mean when the flukey suspension to Draymond Green happened?
There's nothing flukey about having your third flagrant foul in the playoffs and getting suspended due to points accumulation. They had Draymond in game 6/7. Kevin Love sat out a game too.


Oh and I love how you can use "Gronk first game back since the injury too." but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about Bogut not even playing in game 6 nor 7. Double standards much?
You're comparing a one game series where Gronk, was their 2nd best player wasn't anywhere near 100% vs Bogut who is like their 6/7th best played most of the series.

[TheWinningFam]

Oh and I love how you can use "Gronk first game back since the injury too." but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about Bogut not even playing in game 6 nor 7. Double standards much?
Bogut played 12 mins a game and had a negative +/- :hammerhead:

[TheWinningFam]

Also keep bringing up draymond suspension when if he wasn't being a dumbass all playoffs it wouldn't have happened brehs, All the fvckkery he was doing was going to catch up with them eventually karma :lol

[Sarcastic]

Also keep bringing up draymond suspension when if he wasn't being a dumbass all playoffs it wouldn't have happened brehs, All the fvckkery he was doing was going to catch up with them eventually karma :lol

I completely agree with the DG suspension. I only bring it up because bigkingfag is trying to make excuses as to why the Pats got their shit pushed in, not once but in different Super Bowls.

[smoovegittar]

Ask a real Celtics or Lakers fan this.

[Papaya Petee]

you're ignoring the other side of the coin to a long series .. the fact that a longer series gives a lot more time for bad things to happen either way.. what if the giants played a series with the pats, and rodney harrison got suspended mid series, vince wilfork went down, and welker caught a lingering injury?
Curry wasnt injured and Draymond got suspended for his 3rd flagrant foul. Youre going to compare the situtions to discredit the Cavs but will completely ignore Lebron losing Kyrie and Love for the finals last year?
Curry played all 7 games and was garbage.
Draymond played 6 of the 7.
Lebron got less than 1 game from Kyrie and 0 from Love just the year before. Good double standard.

[KirbyPls]

Curry wasnt injured and Draymond got suspended for his 3rd flagrant foul. Youre going to compare the situtions to discredit the Cavs but will completely ignore Lebron losing Kyrie and Love for the finals last year?
Curry played all 7 games and was garbage.
Draymond played 6 of the 7.
Lebron got less than 1 game from Kyrie and 0 from Love just the year before. Good double standard.

:applause:

Tpols used to be a good poster. Curry's choking rubbed off it seems. That or the Lebron fam (:applause: ) has gone too far...and they have,

[livinglegend]

:applause:

Tpols used to be a good poster. Curry's choking rubbed off it seems. That or the Lebron fam (:applause: ) has gone too far...and they have,
Really? When?

[Mr Feeny]

:applause:

Tpols used to be a good poster. Curry's choking rubbed off it seems. That or the Lebron fam (:applause: ) has gone too far...and they have,He and most Kobe stans went into complete meltdowns since Lebron lead the 3-1 comeback and won his 3rd fmvp. It's like he gave up. It got to him pretty heavy and he's resorted to this :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Regardless, the Cavs nearly lost in 5 games. It wasn't till the epic choke job by the Warriors that the Cavs were able to come back.

Giants made a great play, and were the better team. The Cavs needed a choke job, and it's debatable whether they were the better team.

Except, GSW's stars continued at the exact same level... Curry did, Klay actually had his best game in game 5... It's ironic that you're focusing on them, rather than LeBron having two of the three best finals games ever via game score and Kyrie dropping 41... They went superhuman, and won over 7 games, which beats one game every single time.

[Im Still Ballin]

tpols using RETARD logic!

[tpols]

Curry wasnt injured and Draymond got suspended for his 3rd flagrant foul. Youre going to compare the situtions to discredit the Cavs but will completely ignore Lebron losing Kyrie and Love for the finals last year?
Curry played all 7 games and was garbage.
Draymond played 6 of the 7.
Lebron got less than 1 game from Kyrie and 0 from Love just the year before. Good double standard.

I've maintained in these comparisons of this years finals to last year's that the warriors got a big break last year .. it's you guys that cant admit what happened this year.

[tpols]

when the big plug goes down (Wilfork/Bogut), the aggressive attacking nature of the other team will start to work much better. In football this means you will be able to run the ball more effectively. In basketball, it means you will get better looks at the rim. Both of these soften the defense, and make other guys have to rotate. For football this creates a softer back field, as the CB's and safeties have to move more up into the box to help, in basketball it creates more spacing for shooting from all team members as smaller players have to make a team effort to crowd the paint since their biggest man is gone. And thats just Bogut/Wilfork. You take dray and rodney out? There's no fear from the orchestrator anymore. Eli/Bron dont have to look out the corner of their eye for these mad men who can pop up and make something happen at any second.


It's not all that complicated.. when you take the best defenders off a team, it not only physically makes it easier for the offense, but also mentally soothes and allows easier execution.


this is not retard logic.. watching the lebron fam write dumbass stuff in italics is retard logic. This stuff is concrete which is why you guys cant refute it.