Why is Kobe discussed

[Jasper]

He is only a top 15 player....

GIVE IT UP

[warriorfan]

Reported

[Akrazotile]

Reported



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[TheWinningFam]

kobe was drafted to the hornets, before crying to get to the lakers who went 53-29 the previous year..
In Kobe's rookie year the team went just 56-26 just an 3 game improvement, Keep in mind this was with prime shaq.

Think about it, It took kobe 4 years to make the finals with Phil jackson Prime shaq and a 50+ win supporting cast, All of this while being the second option, Kobe had so much guard help that he didn't even start until his third year in the league..

[warriorfan]

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[warriorfan]

kobe was drafted to the hornets, before crying to get to the lakers who went 53-29 the previous year..
In Kobe's rookie year the team went just 56-26 just an 3 game improvement, Keep in mind this was with prime shaq.

otoh, lebron turned a 17-65 team into a 35-47 team his rookie year, thats a 16 win difference more than quintuple of kobe's 3 with a 50+ win supporting cast.

Think about it, It took kobe 4 years to make the finals with Phil jackson Prime shaq and a 50+ win supporting cast, Lebron did this in the same time frame with a 17 win supporting cast, 3rd year head coach, and drew gooden as his second option.
It is significantly easier to raise a record of 17-65 in comparison to raising a 53 win team's record

For Example, if Kevin Durant joined the 76ers, he could easily add 10+ wins to that team. When Kevin Durant joins the Warriors, they could very well end up with a worse record than they did last season. Does that mean Durant performed better if he hypothetically joined the 76ers, put up the same production, but the 76er's gained more wins than the Warriors in respect to their last seasons? The logic does not work

As for your "making the finals" criteria. You are neglecting the fact that it is easier to make the Finals in the Eastern Conference than it is in the Western Conference

Reference:

Win Differential Between Eastern and Western Conference Teams of the Past 18 Years

https://s7.postimg.org/3kc7q2o2j/Poor_Eastern_Conference.jpg

[TheWinningFam]

It is significantly easier to raise a record of 17-65 in comparison to raising a 53 win team's record

For Example, if Kevin Durant joined the 76ers, he could easily add 10+ wins to that team. When Kevin Durant joins the Warriors, they could very well end up with a worse record than they did last season. Does that mean Durant performed better if he hypothetically joined the 76ers, put up the same production, but the 76er's gained more wins than the Warriors in respect to their last seasons? The logic does not work

As for your "making the finals" criteria. You are neglecting the fact that it is easier to make the Finals in the Eastern Conference than it is in the Western Conference

Reference:

Win Differential Between Eastern and Western Conference Teams of the Past 18 Years

https://s7.postimg.org/3kc7q2o2j/Poor_Eastern_Conference.jpg
The answer to your question is yes, we know this because durant would see more usage being the first option in the 76ers offense, this would lead to more wins, otoh, being the second or third option in the warriors offense would diminish his stats, If his production stayed the same as if he was on the 76ers, the warriors would win more games, therefore we can conclude that joining the warriors and their record worsening would be a result of durant being less productive.



As for your "making the finals" criteria. You are neglecting the fact that it is easier to make the Finals in the Eastern Conference than it is in the Western Conference

Reference:
https://s7.postimg.org/3kc7q2o2j/Poor_Eastern_Conference.jpg

Having a 17 win supporting cast and 3rd year head coach evens out with the conference being weaker just like having a stacked team evens out with having tougher competition, we know this because the lakers went 15-1 their only lost coming vs a Eastern conference team while shaq averaged 31/15/4 despite the ''west being a better conference'' therefore we can conclude that having a stacked roster beats out playing tougher competition. and a weaker team evens out with having weaker competition.

[Jasper]

Mods :wtf:
Mods - suspend this guy

[dubnation]

F*ck Warriorfag

That is all

[RRR3]

F*ck Warriorfag

That is all
I prefer warriorsspam.

[Mr Feeny]

He is only a top 15 player....

GIVE IT UP

It's fun trolling his stans:lol

[swagga]

how come all of kobe's fans are autistic like this warriorfag?

[fiddy]

It's fun trolling his stans:lol
By manifesting your insecurities? Kobe living rent free :bowdown:

[Mr Feeny]

By manifesting your insecurities? Kobe living rent free :bowdown:
Case in point :lebronamazed:

:hammertime: