The Final Battle: Silverback Gorilla vs Siberian Tiger-WHO YOU GOT?

[Nick Young]

Both animals are fighting in an open field.

Weapons are not allowed (this means you, gorilla.)

To the death.

https://davidlavallee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/size-mountain-gorilla.gif
https://davidlavallee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/tiger_lion_size_comparison3.jpg

http://www.animalsofmontana.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Siberian-Tiger-072031-12x18-Flattened-...jpg

VS

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/da/28/e1da289cdf4e088e8e4521223346a025.jpg


WHO YOU GOT?

[Long Duck Dong]

The gorilla stands no chance. The tiger is nearly twice the size and has experience fighting large bears of similar size. The gorilla has no experience in fighting off predators except against the occasional 150lb leapord.

[fiddy]

Рussy wins

[atljonesbro]

Gorilla all day. The perfect combination of size, speed, and strength. It's thick skin will protect it from the Tigers bites. The tiger also getting in close to have to bite is a disadvantage as it will then have to deal with the gorillas ridiculous strength

[fiddy]

Gorilla all day. The perfect combination of size, speed, and strength. It's thick skin will protect it from the Tigers bites. The tiger also getting in close to have to bite is a disadvantage as it will then have to deal with the gorillas ridiculous strength
Like the tiger only depends on biting, can claw him to death easily, gorilla doesnt have a hard shell/skin protection.

[nathanjizzle]

tiger and its not even close.

[Long Duck Dong]

Gorilla all day. The perfect combination of size, speed, and strength. It's thick skin will protect it from the Tigers bites. The tiger also getting in close to have to bite is a disadvantage as it will then have to deal with the gorillas ridiculous strength

This is absurd. The gorilla has THIN skin compared to the bears it battles, plus the bears have a thick layer of fat. Brown bears are both prey and predators of Siberian tigers. They will attack each other on sight if starving. The top speed of a Siberian tiger is 50mph. The top speed of a gorilla is 20mph. It couldn't even run away if it wanted to. Comparing primate agility to cat agility is also a joke.

Even with animal affirmative action the gorilla couldn't win

[Nick Young]

This is absurd. The gorilla has THIN skin compared to the bears it battles, plus the bears have a thick layer of fat. Brown bears are both prey and predators of Siberian tigers. They will attack each other on sight if starving. The top speed of a Siberian tiger is 50mph. The top speed of a gorilla is 20mph. It couldn't even run away if it wanted to. Comparing primate agility to cat agility is also a joke.

Even with animal affirmative action the gorilla couldn't win
Does video footage exist of a bloodlusted tiger fighting a bloodlusted bear in the wild?

[Long Duck Dong]

Does video footage exist of a bloodlusted tiger fighting a bloodlusted bear in the wild?

I don't think so. Not of equal size at least. There is video of a smaller black bear successfully defending itself from a tiger, and there is video of a large male killing a female black bear. But there are documented accounts of brown bears preying on tigers and vice versa.

[Nick Young]

If Attenborough made a Nat Geo/BBC documentary about Tiger vs Bear and sent camera teams in to Siberia for a year, I bet we would be able to obtain this valuable footage.

Where have you read these documented reports of tiger vs bear conflict? Sounds interesting.

[atljonesbro]

This is absurd. The gorilla has THIN skin compared to the bears it battles, plus the bears have a thick layer of fat. Brown bears are both prey and predators of Siberian tigers. They will attack each other on sight if starving. The top speed of a Siberian tiger is 50mph. The top speed of a gorilla is 20mph. It couldn't even run away if it wanted to. Comparing primate agility to cat agility is also a joke.

Even with animal affirmative action the gorilla couldn't win
A bear and gorilla are completely different. Bears can't use their arms like a gorilla can. If a tiger gets close enough to bite or claw a gorilla the gorilla would be able to get ahold of the gorilla and break some bones. The tiger may hurt the gorilla but wouldn't kill it quick enough before its rendered useless

[Long Duck Dong]

If Attenborough made a Nat Geo/BBC documentary about Tiger vs Bear and sent camera teams in to Siberia for a year, I bet we would be able to obtain this valuable footage.

Where have you read these documented reports of tiger vs bear conflict? Sounds interesting.



ProBear:

http://www.wcsrussia.org/AboutUs/NewsArchive/tabid/2041/ID/98/language/en-US/OUR-LOSS.aspx
Strike two
http://sixote-alin.ru/articles/tab_eng.html
Strike 3
http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9342882/2/#new
Strike 4
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5945/section43amurtigermorta.png
Strike five
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/TigerQuoll/14f54bde.jpg
Strike 6 3 tigers died by wounds they got trying to fight 3 different bears. Mix of both genders on each side.bears won all 3
http://sixote-alin.ru/articles/nickl_e.html
strike 7 the best account yet lol
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=71XFh8zZwT8C&dat=19421213&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
I got plenty more buddy. All of these fights were head on...unlike yours. As bears cant ambush cats lol
1 more thing I dont know why you keep saying cats have more adv. Over bears when lion claws AND ursus clearly voided all your so called "data"here
http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9380132/11/

Pro Tiger:

Dale, the Tiger who killed four Brown Bears and one Himalayan Bear, was also never seriously injured once. Only once he suffered minor cuts and bruises.

In the 44 known tiger/brown bear fights 50% ended in bear’s death, 27.3% - in tiger’s death, 22.7% - in a draw."
http://www.carnivoraforum...ex....ay&thread=7940
Siberian Tigers come out on top against Bears more often than vice versa, despite the Ussuri Brown Bear being over 100 lbs heavier on average. That itself says a lot about Bear vs Big Cat conflicts.

Here's an article stating Bear's generally avoid Tigers and run away perpendicular to their trail when they do:
http://tigers.ru/books/kaplanov/tigr_en.html

"In January 1941, I encountered the prints of a very large brown bear near the mouth of the Ta-Kunzha River, a tributary of the Kema River; this animal, which had accidentally come across a tiger family on the trail, abandoned this path at a gallop.š At another site, he came across the track of a male tiger and also turned away from the tiger's track."

Here's an report stating that Bears tend to contest female Tiger kill's only and avoid male Tigers.
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/54216f6ba0c873756fff4db0d61d4d74f2c288bc_r.jpg

I find it amazing how underrated Tigers are in this face-off. And in a fight between a 500 lbs Tiger and 500 lbs Bear, I'm sure the Tiger would win. However, the size advantage makes me question.

Sorry, I have to go right now, so I cant look up the exact link I need. But someone posted it in the tiger v. bear thread the OTC had not too long ago.

[fiddy]

A bear and gorilla are completely different. Bears can't use their arms like a gorilla can. If a tiger gets close enough to bite or claw a gorilla the gorilla would be able to get ahold of the gorilla and break some bones. The tiger may hurt the gorilla but wouldn't kill it quick enough before its rendered useless
:roll:

You have no clue how vicious bears are.

[LikeABosh]

Tiger. Not debatable. Gorillas aren't even predators. They are lazy vegetarians.

[9erempiree]

I don't man. Cats can be ruthless. A domesticated house cat can go bat shit craY with its claws against a persuand look how small they are.

Gorilla is as close to man as any other species. So essentially he is messing with a big ass cat.

[Trollsmasher]

I just realized there are actually message boards dedicated solely to animal power rankings:lol

[Nick Young]

I just realized there are actually message boards dedicated solely to animal power rankings:lol
what is concensus top 5?

[Nick Young]

I will not make a new thread about this.
The final battle 2


A new challenger approaches....
http://gremlindog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/polar-bear.jpg

Polar bear's entry music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkGluLhnGU)



THE FINAL BATTLE 2

Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear

Bloodlusted.

Open field.

No weapons.

To the death.

Siberian Tiger's entry music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjZM5zFGuA)
http://cdn.spectator.co.uk/content/uploads/2016/01/bigcat.jpg

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Different Question.
Reflect on these creatures.


From examining a gorilla, we notice
a) Walking on your palms (or doing some kind of a crawl) is beneficial to upper body development
b) Nothing wrong with eating a primarily plant-based diet
c) Societies should, ideally, be patriarchal, with a protective, wise elder male figure
d) African rainforests need to be preserved
e) Black fur does not necessarily heat people up (In Arabian Desert people wear white underneath black (look up physics) conversely for Polar Bear it has black skin and white fur in Arctic
f) Being extremely calm peaceful i.e. avoiding unnecessary conflicts is usually the wisest course of action barring certain oppressive circumstancse
g) Strong, peaceful, orderly, of the created gorilla hint to a far, far, far, infinitely greater magnitude of the aforementioned attributes in the One who created them, the vegetation around them, the rainfall sustaining the vegetation around them, the protection and barrier of their environment allowing for them to live shyly, the suitable homes for them to leave, and the subtle artistic variation in their Lowland and Highland counterparts etc.
h) Despite the intelligence it possesses in matters of leading a family, breaking trees etc; it still cannot even paint, write, read, calculate, express themselves in as cohesive a dialect, nor does it have as large of a genitalia, nor does it remotely have the jogging endurance of a human, nor does it have the muscle/bone weakness of a human, nor the broad span of emotions, nor is a single one of them ever reaching the evils of a Tyrannical Oppresor like Nimrod nor is a single one of them as great in influence as a legitimate heroic human of sound knowledge and enhanced spirituality like the Prophets.

From examining a tiger,
a) Stretching mornings and evenings, swimming, sprinting, and striking is excellent exercise. Far preferrable to jogging or zumba.
b) Just because you're the biggest and strongest doesn't mean you wont' be wiped out into extinction
c) Males need some time alone to regather their energy
d) Majestic, artistic, strong, quick, powerful qualities of the created gorilla denote a far, far, far greater magnitude of the aforementioned qualities hint to the One who created their bodies, their temperament, the tall grass and the skin allowing them to remain hidden, the intelligence of them to strike at the jugular of their prey, etc.
e) Clearly, there is a delicate balance on the Earth where excess herbivores need to be curtailed by the predators but not so much as to allow for unrestricted foliage growth.
f) Cubs need much less time to undertake comparatively to a human, arguably, to undertake a much more difficult physical task.
g) In respect to captured among them in zoos, they suffer grief, sadness, boredom and survival. In respect to the domestic housecat, they are not necessarily as prone to violence.
h) Shere Khan and Tony do not accurately depict the temperament of a tiger. Nor do the contrived National Geographic videos.:oldlol:

[Akrazotile]

I think it would likely be a stalemate. The cat could do a lot of exterior damage via scratching and bighting, but how will it kill the gorilla? It has to get in really close to try and bite the throat, but at that range the gorilla could probably grab it and render it immobile.

Against a bear, it is simply a bite and claw fest. The bear cannot grasp the way a gorilla can. If the cat gets close enough the gorilla can uppercut the thing's head off.

This is assuming a gorilla would instinctively utilize a "punch" in combat, which Im not sure if they do. But think of it like a full grown man against a pitbull. Pitbulls are strong and mean and vicious, but a human who understands where theyre vulnerable can just punch at their throat and skull as it's jumping up trying to bite you. Youll get a lot of bites and scratches, but if it's not able to get on top of you it's not gonna kill you. And you can just keep rocking its skull with blows while it tries to bite you. If youre on your heels and just trying to shield yourself youll be in trouble, but if your adrenaline is pumping and you're actually trying to destroy the thing itll eventually have to back off.

So physiologically I dont think a tiger could take out a gorilla IF the gorilla has any kind of basic swinging/grappling instincts.

[Nick Young]

Different Question.
Reflect on these creatures.


From examining a gorilla, we notice
a) Walking on your palms (or doing some kind of a crawl) is beneficial to upper body development
b) Nothing wrong with eating a primarily plant-based diet
c) Societies should, ideally, be patriarchal, with a protective, wise elder male figure
d) African rainforests need to be preserved
e) Black fur does not necessarily heat people up (In Arabian Desert people wear white underneath black (look up physics) conversely for Polar Bear it has black skin and white fur in Arctic
f) Being extremely calm peaceful i.e. avoiding unnecessary conflicts is usually the wisest course of action barring certain oppressive circumstancse
g) Strong, peaceful, orderly, of the created gorilla hint to a far, far, far, infinitely greater magnitude of the aforementioned attributes in the One who created them, the vegetation around them, the rainfall sustaining the vegetation around them, the protection and barrier of their environment allowing for them to live shyly, the suitable homes for them to leave, and the subtle artistic variation in their Lowland and Highland counterparts etc.
h) Despite the intelligence it possesses in matters of leading a family, breaking trees etc; it still cannot even paint, write, read, calculate, express themselves in as cohesive a dialect, nor does it have as large of a genitalia, nor does it remotely have the jogging endurance of a human, nor does it have the muscle/bone weakness of a human, nor the broad span of emotions, nor is a single one of them ever reaching the evils of a Tyrannical Oppresor like Nimrod nor is a single one of them as great in influence as a legitimate heroic human of sound knowledge and enhanced spirituality like the Prophets.

From examining a tiger,
a) Stretching mornings and evenings, swimming, sprinting, and striking is excellent exercise
b) Just because you're the biggest and strongest doesn't mean you wont' be wiped out into extinction
c) Males need some time alone to regather their energy
d) Majestic, artistic, strong, quick, powerful qualities of the created gorilla denote a far, far, far greater magnitude of the aforementioned qualities hint to the One who created their bodies, their temperament, the tall grass and the skin allowing them to remain hidden, the intelligence of them to strike at the jugular of their prey, etc.
e) Clearly, there is a delicate balance on the Earth where excess herbivores need to be curtailed by the predators but not so much as to allow for unrestricted foliage growth.

Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear

Bloodlusted
Open field
To the death
-the one that loses this battle will die of starvation if their opponent doesn't kill them-


WHO YOU GOT?

[Akrazotile]

I will not make a new thread about this.
The final battle 2


A new challenger approaches....
http://gremlindog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/polar-bear.jpg

Polar bear's entry music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkGluLhnGU)



THE FINAL BATTLE 2

Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear

Bloodlusted.

Open field.

No weapons.

To the death.

Siberian Tiger's entry music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjZM5zFGuA)
http://cdn.spectator.co.uk/content/uploads/2016/01/bigcat.jpg


Polar bear and it isnt close.

[Long Duck Dong]

Polar bear and it isnt close.

Not necessarily. Polar bears are terrified of brown bears and tigers go to battle with brown bears as both predator and prey enough to make for dozens of documented accounts.

The polar bear would probably run from a tiger like it does against brown bears. The polar bear like the gorilla, doesn't have the interspecies combat dna of brown bears or tigers. The gorilla even less so, since it might never see another predator outside of man in it''s life.

Brown bears see combat all the time because they congregate in large grpups part of the year as well as face black bears, wolf packs, mountain lions and tigers on the eastern side. Tigers face 3 species of bears as well as wolf packs in some regions.

Polar bears running from small 300lb brown bear


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y4kGrKy9pk

"Polar bears have a natural aversion to grizzlies"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e5tNLejzIw

It's only a trailer, but I have seen the whole episode. The polar bear briefly tries to battle the brown bear then turns tail and runs for it's life.

Both polar bears and gorillas do not have the instincts to stand their ground and battle other predators. They both would run and that would be their downfall if the tiger or brown bear decided to pursue them.

[Nick Young]

Polar bears have a natural aversion to OTHER BEARS.

This says nothing about how they feel about big cats.

Both species are starving and bloodlusted in this death battle.


Do you believe that a starving polar bear would run from a tiger?

[CasterL]

Kodiak bear = GOAT

[Long Duck Dong]

Do you believe that a starving polar bear would run from a tiger?

It's very probable. Think about it. If 300lb juvenile brown bears are chasing off polar bears, what will polar bears do if they see a 600lb tiger? That whale carcass was much more important to the polar bear than to the grizzly. Grizzlies can live off a diet of 90% vegetable matter, capture fish, and hunt animals from the size of ground mice to musk ox. The polar bears have a specialized diet and they need to make every opportunity to feed count. Yet they still ran from a small predator that has many food options.

Also Siberian tigers are accustomed to seeing bears (although not white ones) but polar bears have never seen a tiger.

[Im Still Ballin]

Did we not forget the Animal month insidehoops had last year?

I'm an expert on animal battles

The Silverback is the wildcard of animals.. Most people underrate him

He'd do well against most cats, but Siberian Tiger would probably be a stretch