We are going to be the first generation that will be asked....

[9erempiree]

How was America when it was America?

Were you shooting criminals dad when the 2nd amendment existed?

You mean you can search anything on Google?

He made a mistake by killing someone Dad. He should only do 5 years. Life is too precious to be wasted in prison.


Pretty scary stuff.:facepalm

[Im Still Ballin]

I'm hearing GOAT era.

[UK2K]

Looks exactly like the fall of Rome.


A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.

Sound familiar?

[9erempiree]

Looks exactly like the fall of Rome.



Sound familiar?

Yes and I believe it goes...Democracy---> Socialism---> Anarchy.

The last doesn't sound too bad but that would be last resort.


According to the Index, the freest nations in the world are, in order: Hong Kong, Switzerland, Finland, Denmark, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Ireland, United Kingdom and Sweden. The United States is the only English-speaking country to rank outside the top 10

[UK2K]

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell


8 Reasons Why Rome Fell

Economic troubles and overreliance on slave labor

Even as Rome was under attack from outside forces, it was also crumbling from within thanks to a severe financial crisis. Constant wars and overspending had significantly lightened imperial coffers, and oppressive taxation and inflation had widened the gap between rich and poor. In the hope of avoiding the taxman, many members of the wealthy classes had even fled to the countryside and set up independent fiefdoms.


Yep, sounds like America.

[QUOTE]The rise of the Eastern Empire

The fate of Western Rome was partially sealed in the late third century, when the Emperor Diocletian divided the Empire into two halves

[MMM]

Looks exactly like the fall of Rome.



Sound familiar?

Loose fiscal policy???

in my life time its been the Republicans that seem to far less fiscally conservative than the Dems which shouldn't go ignored. I'm sure in their heart of hearts the republicans would want to far less entitlement spending but it is never ending war that is sucking america dry.

[Overdrive]

Switzerland is a democracy since 1291. UK, you're always painting a doomsday picture for the US, but dictatorship is quite unlikely. Too many people, to much information access. Revolts would be imminent.

[MintBerryCrunch]

:facepalm

[Akrazotile]

Loose fiscal policy???

in my life time its been the Republicans that seem to far less fiscally conservative than the Dems which shouldn't go ignored. I'm sure in their heart of hearts the republicans would want to far less entitlement spending but it is never ending war that is sucking america dry.

Both parties have the same agenda as far as advancing the interests of their biggest donors. Which of course often includes a lot of overlap. As is often said, politics is like pro wrestling. They stage a fight for the audience, but behind closed doors they're working for the same business.

They're both gonna spend the public's money on those who will either vote for them or donate to them. And all they have to do to get approved for this scheme by the public at large is to rally their respective base with a polarizing view on abortion, or 'transphobia' or terry schaivo etc., some simple yes or no topic.

A lot of conservatives, particularly young ones, are trying to strike better compromises on social issues in order to get some common sense into our economic policies. But the left are the ones going full sheep, now. The left are the new Puritans. They're propagandized easily, they're threatened easily ("Trump is dangerous" ad naueseum, aka scaremongering), they won't compromise, they don't want to listen to views they don't like. They're a zealous flock of sheep on a mission.

I agree with yall, Republican politicians have not been upholding Republican principles. And the principles are what matter, not the politicians. But there's still too many people on both sides who really don't wanna talk about the principles, and just wanna elect the guy from 'their side' and assume that'll take care everything. That's exactly how both sides politicians get away with so much bullshit. People are caught up in electing 'their guy' and then they don't work together with other people to make sure THEIR values are actually maintained. As long as their party gets in the white house.

We gotta do better. It starts with us. We gotta get on the same page as a public and then take our demands collectively to those in charge. And if there are things certain regions cant come to terms on, we need to leave them to the states. But liberals are acting like crusaders. It's not enough to have their values in their communities - they gotta push the agenda on everyone else. Using whatever method possible - federal legislation, lawsuits, violent demonstrations. They can't live and let live. They're crusaders and often behave like terrorists. And the problem is, this has become STANDARD for the American left. So that's a problem.

[fiddy]

Switzerland is a democracy since 1291. UK, you're always painting a doomsday picture for the US, but dictatorship is quite unlikely. Too many people, to much information access. Revolts would be imminent.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[sd3035]

Switzerland is a democracy since 1291. UK, you're always painting a doomsday picture for the US, but dictatorship is quite unlikely. Too many people, to much information access. Revolts would be imminent.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause: :applause:

[Jasper]

Was a billionaire really your president , and used his own money to build that big fricken wall separating those hot Mexican chicks from us :confusedshrug:

[Overdrive]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Well think about it. A swedish guy sitting in an ambassy in London can strike fear into world leaders by a mouseclick. Information gets spread much easier than in the 70s for instance.

[fiddy]

Well think about it. A swedish guy sitting in an ambassy in London can strike fear into world leaders by a mouseclick. Information gets spread much easier than in the 70s for instance.
world leaders≠ordinary people. Information is precisely spread to control the masses of sheep. Although, whistler blowers like Assange have done terrific job, ordinary sheep cannot grasp to the full the extend of their work, or the implications for their own existence.

PS: Assange is Ausie

[DCL]

Well think about it. A swedish guy sitting in an ambassy in London can strike fear into world leaders by a mouseclick. Information gets spread much easier than in the 70s for instance.

so which swedish guy are you talking about??

[East River Livn']

Was a billionaire really your president , and used his own money to build that big fricken wall separating those hot Mexican chicks from us :confusedshrug:

It's not hot Mexican chicks coming anymore. It's 4 and a half foot tall square bodied central American jungle indians.

[Overdrive]

world leaders≠ordinary people. Information is precisely spread to control the masses of sheep. Although, whistler blowers like Assange have done terrific job, ordinary sheep cannot grasp to the full the extend of their work, or the implications for their own existence.

PS: Assange is Ausie

My bad always thought he was swedish. There are enough people that get influenced by those revelations. Most governments simply do just enough to keep people from turning onto them. Take away people's freedom paired with the leaks and they might revolt.

The big deal in europe is that dissatisfied people don't riot, they turn to nationalistic hardliner elitist parties and expect them to help the poor.

[pauk]

How was America when it was America?

Were you shooting criminals dad when the 2nd amendment existed?

You mean you can search anything on Google?

He made a mistake by killing someone Dad. He should only do 5 years. Life is too precious to be wasted in prison.


Pretty scary stuff.:facepalm


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[UK2K]

Switzerland is a democracy since 1291. UK, you're always painting a doomsday picture for the US, but dictatorship is quite unlikely. Too many people, to much information access. Revolts would be imminent.

I never suggested the US would become a dictatorship...

I merely pointed out that Democracy works UNTIL the public realizes it can vote themselves more money.

Which is true.

You do realize that financially, the US cannot continue on their current path, correct? You see that much? OK, so now that we realize that, the next question is 'what do we change?' Nobody can agree, so we just kick the can down the road until the next debt crisis.

Also, you can prevent a revolt by... handing out free shit. That's what we're doing now, more and more, and that's how you keep the people happy. But it can't go on forever. Mathematically, it can't. Who cares if they know what's happening as long as they've got nice rims and a new cell phone?

[fiddy]

My bad always thought he was swedish. There are enough people that get influenced by those revelations. Most governments simply do just enough to keep people from turning onto them. Take away people's freedom paired with the leaks and they might revolt.

The big deal in europe is that dissatisfied people don't riot, they turn to nationalistic hardliner elitist parties and expect them to help the poor.
People pulling the strings in the US are two steps in front of you, im afraid. They already have taken away a lot of freedom over bs arguments. If the american society was even remotely awake, people'd be out on the street protesting against both presidential nominations, US foreign policy, patriot act, etc, etc.

[UK2K]

People pulling the strings in the US are two steps in front of you, im afraid. They already have taken away a lot of freedom over bs arguments. If the american society was even remotely awake, people'd be out on the street protesting against both presidential nominations, US foreign policy, patriot act, etc, etc.

Give out free shit... and keep their attention elsewhere.

ZIKA!! Reality TV!! Terrorism!! Global Warming (or climate change depending on what the weather is doing)!!

You want free college? You want tax breaks? You want a pay raise? You want more SS?

Keep the masses distracted and you can do what you want.

[fiddy]

Give out free shit... and keep their attention elsewhere.

ZIKA!! Reality TV!! Terrorism!! Global Warming (or climate change depending on what the weather is doing)!!

You want free college? You want tax breaks? You want a pay raise? You want more SS?

Keep the masses distracted and you can do what you want.
Exactly, distractions. People's attention is way too distracted to be able to follow/grasp issues in full over a period of time.

[Overdrive]

I never suggested the US would become a dictatorship...

I merely pointed out that Democracy works UNTIL the public realizes it can vote themselves more money.

Which is true.

You do realize that financially, the US cannot continue on their current path, correct? You see that much? OK, so now that we realize that, the next question is 'what do we change?' Nobody can agree, so we just kick the can down the road until the next debt crisis.

There aren't nearly as many liquidable assets out there in any country as there is money so any fiscal/debt crisis is just some imaginary problem in reality - no other country will declare the US bankrupt. Of course it (massively) reflects on real world economy, but the things going down with it are sectors and companies that aren't needed outside the money "transfer" business or not strong enough to compete with other companies(US car brands) in their specific business. What I mean is the US has too strong of an economy to simply go down as a whole - it's not Greece. Of course a crisis will come along sometime, that will always happen aslong as we use money, but it won't affect the country itself as much as it will affect certain groups of people, depending of the nature of the crisis.

Actually I don't think you can vote yourself money from the government. You can vote yourself promisses that could be kept or not.


Also, you can prevent a revolt by... handing out free shit. That's what we're doing now, more and more, and that's how you keep the people happy. But it can't go on forever. Mathematically, it can't. Who cares if they know what's happening as long as they've got nice rims and a new cell phone?


Most governments simply do just enough to keep people from turning onto them. Take away people's freedom paired with the leaks and they might revolt.

That's what I'm saying. You get 840

[Doomsday Dallas]

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Good pic. :applause:

[Doomsday Dallas]

2016 will forever be known as:

"What a time to be alive"


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