GSW will sure miss Andrew Bogut's inside presence

[swagga]

just look at what bogut did in the australia vs usa game... killed us with his physicality, passing and space creation skills ... these golden state clowns are gonna get creamed inside if the refs will call it within reason.

[StephHamann]

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[tpols]

i honestly cant think of a current center that can do all the things bogut does. if the jumpshots dont fall next year, warriors will be shit out of luck. Theyre only smaller and softer now.

[RRR3]

i honestly cant think of a current center that can do all the things bogut does. if the jumpshots dont fall next year, warriors will be shit out of luck. Theyre only smaller and softer now.
You can't think of a current center who is a great rebounder and shot blocker, a good passer, and can set illegal screens? :kobe:





Actually, I don't think I can either :wtf:

[tpols]

You can't think of a current center who is a great rebounder and shot blocker, a good passer, and can set illegal screens? :kobe:





Actually, I don't think I can either :wtf:

name a center that has Bogut's offensive IQ, dribbling on the perimeter, and passing ability, combined with shotblocking / defense.. good luck.

[RRR3]

name a center that has Bogut's offensive IQ, dribbling on the perimeter, and passing ability, combined with shotblocking / defense.. good luck.
Noah if he stops sucking is all I can think of

[tpols]

Noah if he stops sucking is all I can think of

noah was kinda like bogut.. that is a good example , only thing i would say is he seems signifigantly smaller, less robust physically.

[K Xerxes]

i honestly cant think of a current center that can do all the things bogut does. if the jumpshots dont fall next year, warriors will be shit out of luck. Theyre only smaller and softer now.

Bogut was playing for 20mpg last season, which fell to 16mpg in the playoffs, and then 12mpg in the finals before he got injured. He's hardly a key cog in the GS system that is based on outside shooting. They'll be fine with Zaza.

Not saying he's not a good player, because he can be an effective center in a system that can use him. But there will always be doubts about his injury record at the end of the day.

[tpols]

Bogut was playing for 20mpg last season, which fell to 16mpg in the playoffs, and then 12mpg in the finals before he got injured. He's hardly a key cog in the GS system that is based on outside shooting. They'll be fine with Zaza.
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despite those low minutes, he led the league in playoff blocks.. he's a fantastic rim protector. i disagree with the bolded because bogut was huge at setting screens and being used as a facilitator to find open guys. we've seen how hard it can be for durant and curry to get open in the playoffs without somebody laying the wood.. it's not pretty. zaza seems to me to be just a one dimensional hustle guy

[K Xerxes]

despite those low minutes, he led the league in playoff blocks.. he's a fantastic rim protector. i disagree with the bolded because bogut was huge at setting screens and being used as a facilitator to find open guys. we've seen how hard it can be for durant and curry to get open in the playoffs without somebody laying the wood.. it's not pretty. zaza seems to me to be just a one dimensional hustle guy

And yet his fantastic rim protection leads him in constant foul trouble, which limits his minutes. Despite all of those qualities you listed, how much impact can you have playing only a third or a quarter of the game? Aside from passing, he is offensively inept and terrible at the FT line. He really isn't as important as you make him out to be. Draymond is competent at setting illegal screens too.

GS 'go-to' 5 seems pretty obvious: Curry, Klay, Iggy, Durant and Draymond. This puts immense pressure on defenses and is as unguardable a five as I've seen. Boguts minutes would have probably fallen even further.

[tpols]

Despite all of those qualities you listed, how much impact can you have playing only a third or a quarter of the game? .

a lot when you have such a unique role and are the only true competent big man on the team. Setting the tone physically is huge for this team.. there biggest weakness in the playoffs both last year and year before was their propensity for getting bullied off the floor early. it literally just happened. Bogut helps set the tone to keep the game within the game, the physical fight, squarely even, in time for the small ball line up to come in fresh and push the pace. They are more talented with Durant, and more explosive but will be even less consistent. And there greatest weakness will be magnified still. Draymond is 6'7.. he cant hang with 7 footers all game, nor can he clog the paint. He's a free safety not a lineman.

[FireDavidKahn]

name a center that has Bogut's offensive IQ, dribbling on the perimeter, and passing ability, combined with shotblocking / defense.. good luck.
KAT

[MintBerryCrunch]

Noah if he stops sucking is all I can think of
Well, he is in NY now, so don't expect sudden greatness.

[Proctor]

a lot when you have such a unique role and are the only true competent big man on the team. Setting the tone physically is huge for this team.. there biggest weakness in the playoffs both last year and year before was their propensity for getting bullied off the floor early. it literally just happened. Bogut helps set the tone to keep the game within the game, the physical fight, squarely even, in time for the small ball line up to come in fresh and push the pace. They are more talented with Durant, and more explosive but will be even less consistent. And there greatest weakness will be magnified still. Draymond is 6'7.. he cant hang with 7 footers all game, nor can he clog the paint. He's a free safety not a lineman.
Agreed. He did so much for the team that it's hard to imagine someone minimizing that.

His 'fight' opened up the flood gates for 3pt shooters, which GS is composed of. I'm not here to say he's better than Pachulia but he was more beneficial for this team specifically.

[Hoopz2332]

only thing they will miss is his illegal screens/moving picks

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[bdreason]

Problem is he finds a way to get hurt every post season. I don't think he's made it through a playoff run in his entire career.

[HurricaneKid]

You don't get soft by adding DWest and Zaza. Those dudes don't play.

And while Bogut is a really effective C, they also have the guy that got the most 1st team All NBA C votes (still trying to figure out why the league didn't give him 1st team C), sets the dirtiest picks in the league, and actually LED the team in assists in Dray. Zaza breaks down physically over long seasons but he can manage to be a slightly lesser version of Bogey in that he can play the high post, pass really well, mix it up, etc.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

I think GS has a legitimate chance in signing Emeka Okafor this year and if the guy is healthy and can withstand a 82gm season, they will get a great defensive player in the middle.

[swagga]

You don't get soft by adding DWest and Zaza. Those dudes don't play.

And while Bogut is a really effective C, they also have the guy that got the most 1st team All NBA C votes (still trying to figure out why the league didn't give him 1st team C), sets the dirtiest picks in the league, and actually LED the team in assists in Dray. Zaza breaks down physically over long seasons but he can manage to be a slightly lesser version of Bogey in that he can play the high post, pass really well, mix it up, etc.

these ****** WERE tough, now they are old. they need to able to move in order to play, otherwise they'll be nothing but dead weight. and zaza is FAR from bogut's impact. he can't protect the rim, can't pass anywhere near as good, etc.

and lol at whoever said okafor will play 82 games after being out of the nba for so long BECAUSE of health issues.