View Full Version : Westbrook the favorite to win 2017 MVP
Nilocon165
08-15-2016, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/765321883218608129
2-1
Followed by Curry:4-1
Lebron: 5-1
Durant: 12-1
Davis: 16-1
feyki
08-15-2016, 07:24 PM
If Lebron trying to surpass Jordan , he will try for the mvp .
KevinDurant35
08-15-2016, 07:24 PM
:durantunimpressed:
BigKAT
08-15-2016, 07:25 PM
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/765321883218608129
2-1
Followed by Curry:4-1
Lebron: 5-1
Durant: 12-1
Davis: 16-1
I dunno about personal stats.
But I don't see them giving MVP to a team with less then 50 wins,
And I am not sure OKC led by Russel can hit that mark...
I think that it's either going to be Lebron or someone unexpected.
My odd perdiction (Please don't slay me for this)
Blake Griffin has a breakthrough year and if Clippers win 57-60 he takes it.
KevinDurant35
08-15-2016, 07:35 PM
Kevin Durant will be the MVP this season. The best player on the team with the best record. Put your bets in now....12-1 is a pretty good payout. :cheers:
Ruler
08-15-2016, 08:57 PM
I can't believe Kawhi Leonard hasnt been mentioned. Dude finished 2nd in voting last year and gets no recognition now?
But I agree that Russ will go off all year. Probably will win it
BigKAT
08-15-2016, 08:58 PM
I can't believe Kawhi Leonard hasnt been mentioned. Dude finished 2nd in voting last year and gets no recognition now?
But I agree that Russ will go off all year. Probably will win it
I don't think Kawahi would be able to get the MVP in his career.
With all due respect a wing that averages 21 PPG and 2.6 APG is nice, but it is not MVP worthy.
Ruler
08-15-2016, 09:03 PM
I don't think Kawahi would be able to get the MVP in his career.
With all due respect a wing that averages 21 PPG and 2.6 APG is nice, but it is not MVP worthy.
That's a fair assessment, but he almost had a 50/40/90 season while earning DPOY. Plus he is still getting better every year, and leads his team to 67 wins? Idk why people think 21/7.5/2.5 on ~53/46/88 with 2 SPG and 2 straight DPOY is not MVP level... Anthony Davis was not very good last year but has better odds than Kawhi? Media bias
BigKAT
08-15-2016, 09:07 PM
That's a fair assessment, but he almost had a 50/40/90 season while earning DPOY. Plus he is still getting better every year, and leads his team to 67 wins? Idk why people think 21/7.5/2.5 on ~53/46/88 with 2 SPG and 2 straight DPOY is not MVP level... Anthony Davis was not very good last year but has better odds than Kawhi? Media bias
About Anthony Davis.
I don't really think he'll win MVP either.
He's had one winning season in his career so far.
Is it blasphamy to say that the Unibrow won't win an MVP in my opinion?
Maybe. But I honestly think that he won't.
Think about it,
Curry is only 28,
Durant is what, 29?
Kyrie is 24,
You got people like Karl Anthony Towns (Praised be his name) and Wiggins and others that are all in this league.
heck, I think that James Harden is more likely to win MVP then him. (If he shapes up on defense)
Seriously, when was the last time a Big Man won MVP in this league?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's 04's Garnett?
Complete domination of that award by Wings and PGs.
Ruler
08-15-2016, 09:15 PM
About Anthony Davis.
I don't really think he'll win MVP either.
He's had one winning season in his career so far.
Is it blasphamy to say that the Unibrow won't win an MVP in my opinion?
Maybe. But I honestly think that he won't.
Think about it,
Curry is only 28,
Durant is what, 29?
Kyrie is 24,
You got people like Karl Anthony Towns (Praised be his name) and Wiggins and others that are all in this league.
heck, I think that James Harden is more likely to win MVP then him. (If he shapes up on defense)
Seriously, when was the last time a Big Man won MVP in this league?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's 04's Garnett?
Complete domination of that award by Wings and PGs.
I love the Wolves and think they will be great, but I don't see Wiggins as being anythinh more than a slightly better version of DeMar DeRozan. KAT is going to be a baller though. Davis, if he gets a winning team and actually plays teal defense (not just stat stuffing D) will win at least one. He needs to stay healthy as well for 70+ games.
Harden will never win one. He's in his prime and this is the best we'll get. Curry + Durant will be amazing but hard for either to get their stats. All with Klay & Draymond on the team. There's only one ball on the court.
Kyrie, that's another story. Dude could be really good (as if he's not already lol). I just think Kawhi at 25 has so much room to grow too and is already established. But how does he go from #2 in voting to not even getting mentioned?
BigKAT
08-15-2016, 09:19 PM
I love the Wolves and think they will be great, but I don't see Wiggins as being anythinh more than a slightly better version of DeMar DeRozan. KAT is going to be a baller though. Davis, if he gets a winning team and actually plays teal defense (not just stat stuffing D) will win at least one. He needs to stay healthy as well for 70+ games.
Harden will never win one. He's in his prime and this is the best we'll get. Curry + Durant will be amazing but hard for either to get their stats. All with Klay & Draymond on the team. There's only one ball on the court.
Kyrie, that's another story. Dude could be really good (as if he's not already lol). I just think Kawhi at 25 has so much room to grow too and is already established. But how does he go from #2 in voting to not even getting mentioned?
Let's all agree that if KAT wins the MVP everyone's happy, yeah?
Also, Kawhi I can see winning an MVP with growth.
Davis? I just don't feel it, I dunno.
Anyhow you seem to be a pretty strong Kawhi fan, so I wish you the best with that, I think the spurs still got a ring in them in their current version, also I'm excited to see Pau Gasol on your team.
Ruler
08-15-2016, 09:33 PM
Let's all agree that if KAT wins the MVP everyone's happy, yeah?
Also, Kawhi I can see winning an MVP with growth.
Davis? I just don't feel it, I dunno.
Anyhow you seem to be a pretty strong Kawhi fan, so I wish you the best with that, I think the spurs still got a ring in them in their current version, also I'm excited to see Pau Gasol on your team.
Is it that obvious? Haha
I'd really like to see KAT win won. If the Spurs stop performing as well, my team would be the Wolves. Great group of young guys, particularly Towns. Such a down to Earth, polite, cool guy. He just dominated as a rookie and I don't remember any rookie being that good since, oh, LeBron probably. He will surpass AD by his junior season.
As someone else mentioned, Blake Griffin could have a good year too. He's an all around player who's gotten much better on the less glamorous end
BigKAT
08-15-2016, 09:39 PM
Is it that obvious? Haha
I'd really like to see KAT win won. If the Spurs stop performing as well, my team would be the Wolves. Great group of young guys, particularly Towns. Such a down to Earth, polite, cool guy. He just dominated as a rookie and I don't remember any rookie being that good since, oh, LeBron probably. He will surpass AD by his junior season.
As someone else mentioned, Blake Griffin could have a good year too. He's an all around player who's gotten much better on the less glamorous end
OH that's me lmao
My prediction early in this thread is that Blake Griffin will nab the MVP.
Just a hunch.
RedBlackAttack
08-15-2016, 09:42 PM
There has only been one MVP in the modern era to win MVP and not be on a team that finished the season either first or second seed in their respective conference. That one player was Michael Jordan in 1988 and the Bulls were the 3rd seed in the East.
So, basically it took the greatest player of all-time at the peak of his athletic prowess to win an MVP without being a Top 2 conference team, and his team was still really good (he was also DPOY that year).
By extension, if you think Westbrook is going to win MVP this year, you either think that the Thunder are going to be the first or second seed in the West or that he's going to be the best player of all-time.
I don't think either of those things are likely.
CTbasketball92
08-15-2016, 09:52 PM
There has only been one MVP in the modern era to win MVP and not be on a team that finished the season either first or second seed in their respective conference. That one player was Michael Jordan in 1988 and the Bulls were the 3rd seed in the East.
So, basically it took the greatest player of all-time at the peak of his athletic prowess to win an MVP without being a Top 2 conference team, and his team was still really good (he was also DPOY that year).
By extension, if you think Westbrook is going to win MVP this year, you either think that the Thunder are going to be the first or second seed in the West or that he's going to be the best player of all-time.
I don't think either of those things are likely.
Hmmm. I think the Thunder have a better squad than people think, and Curry, KD and LeBron could all be hindered by various factors. That leaves Kawhi, and i think Westbrook' will lead OKC to 50+ wins and average near a triple double, possibly get 25 triple doubles. Hard not to reward that holistic greatness, and the narrative is too good to be true. Westbrook is not MJ, but he's about to have a 1987-88 MJ-esque season imo. He's got that same dynamic athleticism and inexhaustible motor to get it done. He lacks MJ's lethal midrange jumper and GOAT finishing ability, though, so he won't be that close to as efficient. Westgod's got a great time.
nathanjizzle
08-15-2016, 09:56 PM
:roll:
BarberSchool
08-15-2016, 10:31 PM
Bleacher Report isn't what I would call qualified journalism.
This seems like a laughably bad ploy to get uneducated ignorant fans to lose money betting on a supposed frontrunner who isnt one at all.
MVP is awarded to the best player on the team with the best record. There is a 0% chance OKC will have a top 5 record in the league. And thus a 0% chance Westbrook will win MVP. Scoring title maybe even likely, but NOT MVP.
BarberSchool
08-15-2016, 10:33 PM
I love the Wolves and think they will be great, but I don't see Wiggins as being anythinh more than a slightly better version of DeMar DeRozan. KAT is going to be a baller though. Davis, if he gets a winning team and actually plays teal defense (not just stat stuffing D) will win at least one. He needs to stay healthy as well for 70+ games.
Harden will never win one. He's in his prime and this is the best we'll get. Curry + Durant will be amazing but hard for either to get their stats. All with Klay & Draymond on the team. There's only one ball on the court.
Kyrie, that's another story. Dude could be really good (as if he's not already lol). I just think Kawhi at 25 has so much room to grow too and is already established. But how does he go from #2 in voting to not even getting mentioned?We think very much alike brother.:cheers:
BarberSchool
08-15-2016, 10:36 PM
Hmmm. I think the Thunder have a better squad than people think, and Curry, KD and LeBron could all be hindered by various factors. That leaves Kawhi, and i think Westbrook' will lead OKC to 50+ wins and average near a triple double, possibly get 25 triple doubles. Hard not to reward that holistic greatness, and the narrative is too good to be true. Westbrook is not MJ, but he's about to have a 1987-88 MJ-esque season imo. He's got that same dynamic athleticism and inexhaustible motor to get it done. He lacks MJ's lethal midrange jumper and GOAT finishing ability, though, so he won't be that close to as efficient. Westgod's got a great time.Westbrook without Durant last time missed the playoffs bruh. He is too inefficient to get 58+ wins with this roster I doubt they will get 48. At best they will get a #6 seed in the west, right around the up and coming wolves.
Young X
08-15-2016, 10:44 PM
People are so stupid. There's no way the Thunder will have a top 3-4 record in the west.
It's the same thing last summer when everybody was saying Anthony Davis would win MVP this season. As if the Pelicans were gonna be good enough. Just stupid.
CTbasketball92
08-15-2016, 10:47 PM
Westbrook without Durant last time missed the playoffs bruh. He is too inefficient to get 58+ wins with this roster I doubt they will get 48. At best they will get a #6 seed in the west, right around the up and coming wolves.
Westbrook also missed 15 games that season, so he only played 67 games. He also lost Ibaka for like a month, and Reggie Jackson, who is also a really solid player, also got traded (for who, I have no idea), so I don't think that's a good way to look at it. I think Westbrook with the whole thunder team sans durant could've gotten 50 wins. Westgod was definitely above .500 for the games he played, and if his team had been intact, they'dve easily been in the playoffs.
tpols
08-15-2016, 10:48 PM
People are so stupid. There's no way the Thunder will have a top 3-4 record in the west.
It's the same thing last summer when everybody was saying Anthony Davis would win MVP this season. As if the Pelicans were gonna be good enough. Just stupid.
dont be surprised if they do.. same group outside kd, steven adams, enes kanter, westbrook, roberson all still there with oladipo's talent coming on board.. i wouldnt be shocked if they finished with a high seed.
BarberSchool
08-15-2016, 10:50 PM
dont be surprised if they do.. same group outside kd, steven adams, enes kanter, westbrook, roberson all still there with oladipo's talent coming on board.. i wouldnt be shocked if they finished with a high seed.Ibaka gone too idiot. 48 wins is their absolute ceiling, and I like Donovan and kanter alot. Adams even showed some finsihing accumen.
GoatBoy
08-16-2016, 12:30 AM
Thunder will beat the Warriors if they meet in a playoff series. You heard it here first :D
k0kakw0rld
08-16-2016, 12:33 AM
LeBron is going for number 5
FreezingTsmoove
08-16-2016, 12:44 AM
There has only been one MVP in the modern era to win MVP and not be on a team that finished the season either first or second seed in their respective conference. That one player was Michael Jordan in 1988 and the Bulls were the 3rd seed in the East.
So, basically it took the greatest player of all-time at the peak of his athletic prowess to win an MVP without being a Top 2 conference team, and his team was still really good (he was also DPOY that year).
By extension, if you think Westbrook is going to win MVP this year, you either think that the Thunder are going to be the first or second seed in the West or that he's going to be the best player of all-time.
I don't think either of those things are likely.
Its a weak era right now not the damn 80s
Bestbrook can certainly win the mvp
MintBerryCrunch
08-16-2016, 09:45 AM
Westbrook will play like an MVP, but his team record won't be good enough for it to happen.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/765321883218608129
2-1
Followed by Curry:4-1
Lebron: 5-1
Durant: 12-1
Davis: 16-1
Curry? It's tough for a player to win 3 straight MVPs and add Durant into this equation. Yeah 4-1, and why is Davis on the list again? Nice kid, talented no doubt but win something please? Play 70 games for once? :confusedshrug:
LikeABosh
08-16-2016, 01:52 PM
Retarded. The MVP's team is always a top 1-2 seed, which the Thunder have no chance of sniffing.
Retarded. The MVP's team is always a top 1-2 seed, which the Thunder have no chance of sniffing.
Pretty silly to say given situations aren't the same. Curry/Durant cancel each other out. You're going to be hard pressed to give either MVP. Especially Curry. Lebron will always be in an MVP race.
So who else is there that qualifies for your 1-2 seed argument? Westbrook wins 50 games that'll trump needing a 1-2 seed.
SilkkTheShocker
08-17-2016, 07:19 AM
He has no chance at all. Will never get the regular seasons, not to mention he is the least clutch star in the league. He can't close at all. Most overrated player in the league by a mile.
keep-itreal
08-17-2016, 07:23 AM
There's no way he's going to win it unless he leads the OKC to the 2nd seed
Paul George 24
08-17-2016, 08:58 AM
If Lebron trying to surpass Jordan , he will try for the mvp .
10 scoring champ :banana: lechoke only can dream
As it should be.
Curry and Durant have no shot at the MVP
GOATbrook - LeBron - Harden - Davis?
MintBerryCrunch
08-17-2016, 02:10 PM
I think Curry and Durant teaming up solidifies LeBron's next MVP. Only Kawhi has an outside chance.
MintBerryCrunch
08-17-2016, 02:12 PM
Davis and Westbrook may play like MVPs, but their teams won't be good enough.
Curry and Durant will have to share too much (mostly share the credit) to win.
LeBron is the top stat producer on a top team. I give him an 85% chance. Kawhi a 10% chance. 5% other.
Spurs5Rings2014
08-17-2016, 05:53 PM
Leonard will win easy this season and Westbrook will be runner-up. The Claw just turned 25 and will take another leap. I'm predicting 25/7/3/2/1 on 50/40/88 with top 3 defense in the league.
:pimp:
tpols
08-17-2016, 06:09 PM
Leonard will win easy this season and Westbrook will be runner-up. The Claw just turned 25 and will take another leap. I'm predicting 25/7/3/2/1 on 50/40/88 with top 3 defense in the league.
:pimp:
it's between leonard and westbrook .. the league will not award anybody from golden state with another MVP just like how they didnt give it to anybody from 2011 miami or 2001 lakers.. the league will be looking for its next iverson / rose prospect to push into the limelight. Westbrook is a perfect fit tbh, and i can see them bending the rules for him.
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