Create a team that can beat the All-NBA 3 FMVP's team

[Dray n Klay]

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Shaq

[Dray n Klay]

Here's an inferior version of the team (All-NBA 2 FMVP's team)

PG: Kobe
SG: Bird
SF: Willis Reed
PF: Hakeem
C: Kareem


IMO Kobe at PG already destroys this teams chances :confusedshrug:

[Bankaii]

I honestly don't think you can beat that team.
They literally have the best player from all 5 positions (Shaq is debatable with Kareem, especially if we're assuming everyone is at their peaks).

I don't see any flaws at all. Elite offense and defense.

[arifgokcen]

I honestly don't think you can beat that team.
They literally have the best player from all 5 positions (Shaq is debatable with Kareem, especially if we're assuming everyone is at their peaks).

I don't see any flaws at all. Elite offense and defense.

Actually that team lacks outside shooting if your best outside shooter(3point) is lebron then there is a problem with that team. If current rules apply, then you can construct a team that can beat them.

[livingby3's]

Actually that team lacks outside shooting if your best outside shooter(3point) is lebron then there is a problem with that team. If current rules apply, then you can construct a team that can beat them.

So what would that team be? The team has great, elite passers and scorers at all positions and you are not stopping them from scoring. And only possible defensive hole is the PG spot, you have MJ and LeBron guarding the perimeter, and Shaq and Duncan in the middle. A Magic, MJ and LeBron fast break will be a definite 2 points everytime.

[SpaceJam]

Here's an inferior version of the team (All-NBA 2 FMVP's team)

PG: Kobe
SG: Bird
SF: Willis Reed
PF: Hakeem
C: Kareem


IMO Kobe at PG already destroys this teams chances :confusedshrug:

Yeah cause Kobe is the downfall, not the fact you've got Willis Reed at SF

[ILLsmak]

So what would that team be? The team has great, elite passers and scorers at all positions and you are not stopping them from scoring. And only possible defensive hole is the PG spot, you have MJ and LeBron guarding the perimeter, and Shaq and Duncan in the middle. A Magic, MJ and LeBron fast break will be a definite 2 points everytime.

Not sure who I'd put at C vs Shaq. Wilt or Kareem prol. Maybe Sabonis? haha.
Hakeem at PF
Bird at SF
Pippen at SG ( needed someone for sure that could check MJ and handle the ball a bit)
PG is hard, too. I'd want a big guard. I lean toward GP, but a guy like Steph would be nice. So would Stockton. D Wade at the 1 could be interesting.

-Smak

[Mr Feeny]

Yeah cause Kobe is the downfall, not the fact you've got Willis Reed at SF

Kobe has singlehandedly wrecked many a stacked team by trying to hog the spotlight. I suspect bird won't get a touch and neither will kareem.
They'll sit there waiting all night while a certain 44% career shooter will stay on the perimeter pump faking 3 times before clanking an off-balanced brick - his forte.

[Mr Feeny]

I'd say :

Curry
Jordan
Bird
Lebron
Shaq

The spacing would be ridiculous. They could literally do anything they want and nobody could do a damn thing. Lebron would have so much space to drive and MJ can't be double teamed or else you'd leave Bird and Curry open on the perimeter.

Shaq would more than match any centre who's ever played the game, peak for peak.

I don't see how these guys lose.

[Mr Feeny]

Not sure who I'd put at C vs Shaq. Wilt or Kareem prol. Maybe Sabonis? haha.
Hakeem at PF
Bird at SF
Pippen at SG ( needed someone for sure that could check MJ and handle the ball a bit)
PG is hard, too. I'd want a big guard. I lean toward GP, but a guy like Steph would be nice. So would Stockton. D Wade at the 1 could be interesting.

-Smak

Kareem would hold his own offensively against Shaq but I'm not sure he's the best guy you can pick to match up against him defensively. Shaq would be too big, wouldn't he?

As far as picking Pippen goes, it's interesting and seems to be the opposite of what the OP is doing. He picked Magic at point guard despite his defensive weaknesses and I'm worried that picking Pippen would have the same problem. You could give Jordan a harder time on offense but Pippen is a disgrace on offense. 40% in the playoffs for the 2nd 3peat and 39% in the 3 finals at the end.

Would you sacrifice one position on the floor just for a defender? It might work out if you think you could overcome the poor offense.

[GimmeThat]

to add on with the discussion,

I think you put Tracy McGrady at the PG position, and Bird at the SG position and possibilities opens up a bit.

[Mr Feeny]

to add on with the discussion,

I think you put Tracy McGrady at the PG position, and Bird at the SG position and possibilities opens up a bit.

Do you want Tracy running your offense though?

[GimmeThat]

Do you want Tracy running your offense though?

you're asking me if Russell Westbrook is a championship caliber starting PG.

and no, lets not act as if the opposing PG isn't Magic Johnson now

[retaxis]

Me and 4 guys can defeat that team with 2-3zone defence. They can't make a shot outside of 18feet I would smash that team on the fast break dunking on Shaq.

[AintNoSunshine]

Probably no one. But spacing of this team is sht.

[SexSymbol]

Stockton
Kobe
Bird
Hakeem
Kareem
you're welcome

[Mr Feeny]

Stockton
Kobe
Bird
Hakeem
Kareem
you're welcome

Why would a 40% finals shooter by anywhere near the real legends of the game?

[feyki]

There are multiple options , but i'd pick that five ;

Stockton
West
Bird
Horry
Kareem

[raprap]

Pg: Payton (size vs Magic and a floor general)
Sg: Wade (scoring and defense)
Sf: Bird (skill and hustle)
Pf: Garnett (right up there with timmy in their prime)
C: Kareem (best C of all time)

[AintNoSunshine]

None of the teams listed is going to beat the team in the OP in a 7 game series. They are 3-time FMVP for a reason after all. Too good too smart to possibly be beat.

[Lebronxrings]

Stockton
Kobe
Bird
Hakeem
Kareem
you're welcome
:yaohappy:


you really are retarded huh

[Big164]

All Warrior team beats anybody

Chamberlain
Thurmond
Durant
Klay
Steph

[aj1987]

All Warrior team beats anybody

Chamberlain
Thurmond
Durant
Klay
Steph
Shaq >> Chamberlain
Duncan >>Thurmond
LeBron >> Durant
MJ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Klay
Magic >>>>>Steph

All them chokers COMBINED have fewer rings than Shaq ALONE.

[MintBerryCrunch]

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Shaq
Amazing team.

[Bankaii]

Actually that team lacks outside shooting if your best outside shooter(3point) is lebron then there is a problem with that team. If current rules apply, then you can construct a team that can beat them.
If you're constructing this team off of certain years, then having Lebron as your best outside scorer isn't detrimental.
Lebron was shooting around 40% on 3-4.5 3PA in both the RS and PO, that's pretty freaking good.
And even though MJ isn't known as a great 3 point shooter he was consistent when it mattered.
Besides OKC proved you don't need elite 3 point shooting to dominate with the current rules.

I'd love to see your team that could beat them though.

[Bankaii]

There are multiple options , but i'd pick that five ;

Stockton
West
Bird
Horry
Kareem
You're joking right?
You do know they have to play DEFENSE as well right?
West trying to guard MJ or Bird trying to guard Lebron with Horry as one the rim protectors:roll:

[feyki]

You're joking right?
You do know they have to play DEFENSE as well right?
West trying to guard MJ or Bird trying to guard Lebron with Horry as one the rim protectors:roll:

What should i say to you when you thinking West and Bird can't play defence .

Horry was one of greatest defenders for his position . And can create some space to teammates with his longe ranges .

Bird was better defensive and hustle player than Lebron . And West was amazing defensive player too , best after Hondo for his time as perimeter players .

And Jordan/Magic/Lebron backcourt is trash for spacing . And plus Duncan,Shaq . Hornets actually have better spacing than this team .

[Bankaii]

What should i say to you when you thinking West and Bird can't play defence .

Horry was one of greatest defenders for his position . And can create some space to teammates with his longe ranges .

Bird was better defensive and hustle player than Lebron . And West was amazing defensive player too , best after Hondo for his time as perimeter players .

And Jordan/Magic/Lebron backcourt is trash for spacing . And plus Duncan,Shaq . Hornets actually have better spacing than this team .
I never said they couldn't defend.
But asking 2 decent defenders to guard the 2 most athletic and best scoring perimeter players of all time is laughable at best.

As good as Horry was for his role, he isn't stopping Lebron/Jordan at the rim. Period.

As for the spacing comment, I already addressed how that's not really an issue, look at my other post.
Your last sentence is just:facepalm

[feyki]

I never said they couldn't defend.
But asking 2 decent defenders to guard the 2 most athletic and best scoring perimeter players of all time is laughable at best.

As good as Horry was for his role, he isn't stopping Lebron/Jordan at the rim. Period.

As for the spacing comment, I already addressed how that's not really an issue, look at my other post.
Your last sentence is just:facepalm

Basketball is much more complicated than you think . Game isn't playing like one on one , switches/picks/zoneD/HelpD/Traps vs vs ..

Not just 3's ( btw , Peak Shooting Lebron averaged %18 3pt in the finals ) Magic/Lebron weren't bankable longe rangers . If assuming Jordan as any version of before 92 , hohoho it would turn a comedy show .

Horry doesn't need protect the rim , it's Kareem's job . His game focus on help D . Btw , he's 7th or 8th for all time total blocks leaders in the finals .

[tpols]

OP's team has some serious spacing issues.. and redundant star talent .. magic and bron ?.. and you still have to feed jordan and shaq on top of all that dribbling.. remember folks there's only one ball.


Wilt
KG
Bird
Moncrief
Jason Kidd


size to match so they wont get bullied off the court.. every guy on this team doesnt need to be fed and is of an unselfish variety. Even wilt fits that criteria if we use his older, stronger version that was more focused on defense, rebounding, and passing. And absolute lock down defense. Much more fluid and practical fit than OP's.

[Dray n Klay]

OP's team has some serious spacing issues.. and redundant star talent .. magic and bron ?.. and you still have to feed jordan and shaq on top of all that dribbling.. remember folks there's only one ball.


Wilt
KG
Bird
Moncrief
Jason Kidd


size to match so they wont get bullied off the court.. every guy on this team doesnt need to be fed and is of an unselfish variety. Even wilt fits that criteria if we use his older, stronger version that was more focused on defense, rebounding, and passing. And absolute lock down defense. Much more fluid and practical fit than OP's.



So who's the clutch scorer on that team?



Mr back to back 8 points in the Finals Bird, or Mr 18ppg finals average Wilt ?

:roll:





Your team would get destroyed

[tpols]

clutch scorer? Larry bird.. that was easy. you dont need a bunch of guys to do that .. it gets redundant. most great teams only have one great closer anyway.. there's one ball.

[Dray n Klay]

Lol tpols, Bird a clutch scorer?


Gotta love how myths and fairy tales create untrue perceptions about players.







So basically your team comes down to the clutch scoring of Moncrief and Jason Kidd vs. the clutch scoring of Jordan, LeBron, Duncan



Ummm... good luck with that






Didn't really think through your players did you tpols :oldlol:

[CAstill]

Jason Kidd ( Perfect floor general with length for Magic )
Kobe ( Team leader, clutch closer, defense)
Durant ( stretches defense, long range shooting)
Kemp ( ultimate help defender, catches any alley oop, amazing mid range jumper )
Hakeem ( ultimate rim protector, unstoppable post game, controls tempo)

[scm5]

PG: Pippen
SG: Durant
SF: Kawhi
PF: Duncan
C: Hakeem

Pop as coach

Better defense, more spacing from superior shooters so there's more spacing to operate, no alpha dog personalities.

Pop with a team like this would be beautiful to watch.

[CAstill]

Why do people include players from the original team?

[TAZORAC]

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Shaq


7 game serious?

PG-Anferee Hardaway (pre injury)
SG-Kobe Bryant
SF-Kevin Durant
PF-Kevin Garnett
c-Hakeem Oljawon

[TAZORAC]

Jason Kidd ( Perfect floor general with length for Magic )
Kobe ( Team leader, clutch closer, defense)
Durant ( stretches defense, long range shooting)
Kemp ( ultimate help defender, catches any alley oop, amazing mid range jumper )
Hakeem ( ultimate rim protector, unstoppable post game, controls tempo)

hey buddy..did you say KEMP? Kemp was a good player, but don't let the dunks fool you..he wasn't that good.

[BigKAT]

Here's an inferior version of the team (All-NBA 2 FMVP's team)

PG: Kobe
SG: Bird
SF: Willis Reed
PF: Hakeem
C: Kareem


IMO Kobe at PG already destroys this teams chances :confusedshrug:

Bird only has 2 FMVP's?
Really? Who got the 3rd for that Celtics team? :O

[ILLsmak]

Kareem would hold his own offensively against Shaq but I'm not sure he's the best guy you can pick to match up against him defensively. Shaq would be too big, wouldn't he?

As far as picking Pippen goes, it's interesting and seems to be the opposite of what the OP is doing. He picked Magic at point guard despite his defensive weaknesses and I'm worried that picking Pippen would have the same problem. You could give Jordan a harder time on offense but Pippen is a disgrace on offense. 40% in the playoffs for the 2nd 3peat and 39% in the 3 finals at the end.

Would you sacrifice one position on the floor just for a defender? It might work out if you think you could overcome the poor offense.

I would trust him to make the open shot, drive thru when a lane was available, and catch and finish. I don't think he'd need to do more than that. He'd be the 5th option and would be a monster on D.

I'd run Hakeem at Shaq in certain instances, trust Bird to help on TD (which isn't a great matchup) or let him shoot. And if not, let Bron or Magic shoot and hope they miss.

Would also not be afraid to foul Shaq if I had to. TD is also foul-able sometimes.

-Smak