A question about the globalists...

[JtotheIzzo]

Since so many of you use this boogieman as the main driving force for all your retarded world views, perhaps you can answer me this simple question so I can better understand:

Who makes up this global elite, where, when and how do they plan and reach consensus, and what instruments do they use to achieve their means?

this should be really easy, and I look forward to being enlightened.

No links please.

[warriorfan]

Since so many of you use this boogieman as the main driving force for all your retarded world views, perhaps you can answer me this simple question so I can better understand:

Who makes up this global elite, where, when and how do they plan and reach consensus, and what instruments do they use to achieve their means?

this should be really easy, and I look forward to being enlightened.

No links please.

The Federal Reserve and World Bank

They use money to achieve their means

[falc39]

It's an idea in its most extreme and mature form where there are no countries (or countries have lesser control over their own sovereignty) and the world shifts to a more centralized form of control and order. Think big multinational governments. It is obvious whether you agree with the ideology or not, that there are many people who want this and are leading concerted efforts in building towards a more globalist world (in some form or another). The problem is globalists often cause more harm than good, as their plans involve going against the wishes of native populations, forcing one-size-fits-all laws that don't work well in certain regions and cultures, and supporting policies that are the antithesis of a free societies. I don't believe people who are for globalism are sinister. They aren't hatching plans to make the world a terrible place or anything (or at least I hope not). They may have very good intentions. Unfortunately, it is coupled with big egos, lots of money, and a lack of wisdom, so they may never realize the harm they are causing.

[Nanners]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk

[masonanddixon]

It's an idea in its most extreme and mature form where there are no countries (or countries have lesser control over their own sovereignty) and the world shifts to a more centralized form of control and order. Think big multinational governments. It is obvious whether you agree with the ideology or not, that there are many people who want this and are leading concerted efforts in building towards a more globalist world (in some form or another). The problem is globalists often cause more harm than good, as their plans involve going against the wishes of native populations, forcing one-size-fits-all laws that don't work well in certain regions and cultures, and supporting policies that are the antithesis of a free societies. I don't believe people who are for globalism are sinister. They aren't hatching plans to make the world a terrible place or anything (or at least I hope not). They may have very good intentions. Unfortunately, it is coupled with big egos, lots of money, and a lack of wisdom, so they may never realize the harm they are causing.

I agree with most of the post except this. Their intentions are solely with financial benefit in mind with no concern for the environment or independence of a land.

[step_back]

Globalization makes it easier for big companies to do business. Take the EU for example, it's much easier for them to conduct business with one trade deal that stretches across 28 countries for 1000's of miles as opposed to dealing with smaller independent states where they'd have to negotiate with each individual government. Plus the EU is a corporatist unelected institution, so the citizens wouldn't be able to throw out the government in an election.

There's this naive idea that it's somehow about achieving peace and stability in the world, do you think they actually care about that?

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk


The one word that came to mind was: CORPORATIONS.

I think he covered that word in his rant.

good vid... I've actually never seen Network.

[masonanddixon]

Globalization makes it easier for big companies to do business. Take the EU for example, it's much easier for them to conduct business with one trade deal that stretches across 28 countries for 1000's of miles as opposed to dealing with smaller independent states where they'd have to negotiate with each individual government. Plus the EU is a corporatist unelected institution, so the citizens wouldn't be able to throw out the government in an election.

There's this naive idea that it's somehow about achieving peace and stability in the world, do you think they actually care about that?

lol thats the truth about it all and what the OP really needs to answer. Freaking hilarious how these corporations are always promoting 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism' when the truth is they just want cheaper labour, a larger population to sell their shitty products to, and a breakdown in national loyalty so that people will buy their shitty products instead of the local produced items they used to before corporations existed.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.files.wordpress.c om/2013/06/global_elite.jpg

[DCL]

exploiting inefficiency in different systems (either at home or abroad) while maximizing profit. any other grand motivation for betterment of society is a lie and only believed by the stupid or the delusional. as soon as they lose the ability to exploit any system in one country, they will immediately move to the next area or pack everything to relocate to another country or, worse, involve in some form of dirty politics to reinvent unfair advantages to continue exploitation of original country. globalization gives them more options to play the game by their own rules. all this shit doesn't happen by random chance.

[Schotsman]

https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.files.wordpress.c om/2013/06/global_elite.jpg

That's a beautiful cartoon.

[Schotsman]

But to answer your question:

Multinational corporations, and especially market leaders, such as maybe Shell and Google. Here in The Netherlands we'd call them 'The Captains of Industry'. Eventually they want two things, all the markets to be open to them, and access to resources. They open markets by combining different markets throughout trade treaties, and get access to resources by lobbying and paying off officials.

[west_tip]

lol thats the truth about it all and what the OP really needs to answer. Freaking hilarious how these corporations are always promoting 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism' when the truth is they just want cheaper labour, a larger population to sell their shitty products to, and a breakdown in national loyalty so that people will buy their shitty products instead of the local produced items they used to before corporations existed.


Yup, amongst the biggest opponents of immigration reform are business advocacy groups.

As an example Chamber of Commerce v Whiting went to the SC which upheld Arizona's immigration law which punished businesses that hire illegals. It's not like the Chamber of Commerce was white knighting for illegals its just they recognize that illegals are the next best thing to slaves. No vacation or sick pay, no overtime, no medical, no retirement, no taxes, workers can fired at will with no recourse. It's exploitation plain and simple and also serves to depress wages for Americans.

[Nanners]

The one word that came to mind was: CORPORATIONS.

I think he covered that word in his rant.

good vid... I've actually never seen Network.

you should check it out, its a classic and its right up your alley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awv8dySZaHE

[masonanddixon]

Yup, amongst the biggest opponents of immigration reform are business advocacy groups.

As an example Chamber of Commerce v Whiting went to the SC which upheld Arizona's immigration law which punished businesses that hire illegals. It's not like the Chamber of Commerce was white knighting for illegals its just they recognize that illegals are the next best thing to slaves. No vacation or sick pay, no overtime, no medical, no retirement, no taxes, workers can fired at will with no recourse. It's exploitation plain and simple and also serves to depress wages for Americans.

Yes that is all it is. And the herd is too stupid to realise this, they think these entities actually give a shit about anyone.

[poido123]

Since so many of you use this boogieman as the main driving force for all your retarded world views, perhaps you can answer me this simple question so I can better understand:

Who makes up this global elite, where, when and how do they plan and reach consensus, and what instruments do they use to achieve their means?

this should be really easy, and I look forward to being enlightened.

No links please.


Soros, Gates, Rothschild, and a bunch of families all have their fingers on the pie. Those who attend the Bilderberg Group meetings would also have varying levels of involvement.


The simple answer to your question is a couple of manipulations and factors.


Divide and conquer. Create wars and division which ultimately leads to population control. I have a link on Gates and one of the other cronies talking about the need to get the population down to about 5 billion people worldwide, but you specifically said no links.

By creating the divide within regions of the world, causes panic and an outcry for security. Which leads to police states and an over reliance on the government to provide the protection (see migrant crisis and the terrorist attacks aftermath).

More governance leads to more control, stronger governing bodies like the EU and NATO. These bodies pretend to be the do gooders, but only serve the purpose of creating wealth for the elites and absolute power. These side branches of the government are the catalyst for more war

[step_back]

Soros, Gates, Rothschild, and a bunch of families all have their fingers on the pie. Those who attend the Bilderberg Group meetings would also have varying levels of involvement.


The simple answer to your question is a couple of manipulations and factors.


Divide and conquer. Create wars and division which ultimately leads to population control. I have a link on Gates and one of the other cronies talking about the need to get the population down to about 5 billion people worldwide, but you specifically said no links.

By creating the divide within regions of the world, causes panic and an outcry for security. Which leads to police states and an over reliance on the government to provide the protection (see migrant crisis and the terrorist attacks aftermath).

More governance leads to more control, stronger governing bodies like the EU and NATO. These bodies pretend to be the do gooders, but only serve the purpose of creating wealth for the elites and absolute power. These side branches of the government are the catalyst for more war

I'd like to read the Bill Gates link. I find it interesting and also hilarious how people can perceive multi Billionaires as philanthropic humanitarians. You can't build a business empire on morals.

[GimmeThat]

Since so many of you use this boogieman as the main driving force for all your retarded world views, perhaps you can answer me this simple question so I can better understand:

Who makes up this global elite, where, when and how do they plan and reach consensus, and what instruments do they use to achieve their means?

this should be really easy, and I look forward to being enlightened.

No links please.


ever read a quote? you are quite welcome I didn't use my britain accent, nor did I incite a verse off the bible

[Dresta]

Just look at the friends of the Clinton crime family: George Soros, Marc Rich et al. Rich global elites whose power and influence is transnational, and whose interests coincide.

Lots of very wealthy people have a very real interest in keeping power as concentrated as possible, and countries as uniform as possible, because that is what affords them most control (while completely disempowering native populations, and forcing them to conform to international standards that benefit such people).

The man behind the EU project was never elected into any kind of political office:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Monnet#The_Monnet_Plan

The whole thing was always a project of global elites, and not of elected representatives. Then there were the Cambridge Apostles, who saw it as lot to overthrow established norms, and conspired rather childishly to do so (Keynes being one of the most prominent members, and also one of the most influential men of the 20th century).

There are lots of examples, but op sounds like he doesn't really want to hear them.

[west_tip]

I'd like to read the Bill Gates link. I find it interesting and also hilarious how people can perceive multi Billionaires as philanthropic humanitarians. You can't build a business empire on morals.

Ah, the philanthropy of the billionaire class.

There have been multiple studies that have demonstrated that poor, working and middle class people give a higher % of their income/wealth to charity than the rich, thus:

It is not. One of the most surprising, and perhaps confounding, facts of charity in America is that the people who can least afford to give are the ones who donate the greatest percentage of their income. In 2011, the wealthiest Americans—those with earnings in the top 20 percent—contributed on average 1.3 percent of their income to charity. By comparison, Americans at the base of the income pyramid—those in the bottom 20 percent—donated 3.2 percent of their income. The relative generosity of lower-income Americans is accentuated by the fact that, unlike middle-class and wealthy donors, most of them cannot take advantage of the charitable tax deduction, because they do not itemize deductions on their income-tax returns.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/04/why-the-rich-dont-give/309254/

It's just that when Joe Blow gives a couple bucks to a homeless guy at the gas station or makes a $10 donation to the Red Cross there isn't a press release and a photo op. It's unheard of because it goes unreported and it's done out of genuine benevolence not for the purpose of some good publicity.

[masonanddixon]

Just look at the friends of the Clinton crime family: George Soros, Marc Rich et al. Rich global elites whose power and influence is transnational, and whose interests coincide.

Lots of very wealthy people have a very real interest in keeping power as concentrated as possible, and countries as uniform as possible, because that is what affords them most control (while completely disempowering native populations, and forcing them to conform to international standards that benefit such people).

The man behind the EU project was never elected into any kind of political office:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Monnet#The_Monnet_Plan

The whole thing was always a project of global elites, and not of elected representatives. Then there were the Cambridge Apostles, who saw it as lot to overthrow established norms, and conspired rather childishly to do so (Keynes being one of the most prominent members, and also one of the most influential men of the 20th century).

There are lots of examples, but op sounds like he doesn't really want to hear them.


Of course he isn't interested in hearing any other opinion.

It's hilarious because the dude is a self-confessed liberal, which ties into his entire narrative. He seems to be focused in on peddling his products to the Chinese but Brexit and the 'markets' are currently throwing a bit of a screwball into his 'business'

Yes of course, 'black lives matter' when it's just a bunch of violent criminals being killed in defense by the police, but the indigenous of [insert name of country who he needs to exploit to gain a share of the market] don't seem to matter a whole lot and anyone who supports the protection of the land is in his mind a 'treehugger'.

[Dresta]

Of course he isn't interested in hearing any other opinion.

It's hilarious because the dude is a self-confessed liberal, which ties into his entire narrative. He seems to be focused in on peddling his products to the Chinese but Brexit and the 'markets' are currently throwing a bit of a screwball into his 'business'

Yes of course, 'black lives matter' when it's just a bunch of violent criminals being killed in defense by the police, but the indigenous of [insert name of country who he needs to exploit to gain a share of the market] don't seem to matter a whole lot and anyone who supports the protection of the land is in his mind a 'treehugger'.
In the end it is the triumph of the desire for profit over all other things. Uniformity, cultural or otherwise, makes international business dealings much easier; and what we are in the process of spreading to the entire world is the bourgeois middle class outlook of the world where security and personal comfort trump all other considerations, and that starts with spreading consumer culture.

[masonanddixon]

In the end it is the triumph of the desire for profit over all other things. Uniformity, cultural or otherwise, makes international business dealings much easier; and what we are in the process of spreading to the entire world is the bourgeois middle class outlook of the world where security and personal comfort trump all other considerations, and that starts with spreading consumer culture.
Yes this is exactly it; truly depressing. It's impossible to enjoy life anymore unless you are on your own away from humanity.

[Doomsday Dallas]

and what instruments do they use to achieve their means?



The Pentagon Videos.

They will be leaked... (purposely)



All that blind faith in believing something you never saw with your own eyes.

Hope that pays off when those videos see the light of day.





Globalists need America just about as much as they needed Nazi Germany.

Sometimes.... on the Grand Chess board of the Globe...

you have to sacrifice your Queen to win.



They don't need America to simply fall... They need America to be exposed.

Then they will have a legit reason to show the rest of the world that
Freedom doesn't work.


http://www.888quotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2925_Henry-Kissinger.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

Again... Arnim Zola (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62cjheqv-nw)

Humanity needs to surrender it's Freedom willingly.

And that's exactly what is happening.

[~primetime~]

https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.files.wordpress.c om/2013/06/global_elite.jpg
What this illustrates is that those with money hold all the playing pieces...they even hold more power than our own government. This is completely believable and I don't think many would disagree with it.

What this does NOT illustrate is that there is some hidden global illuminati with an evil agenda to take away everyone's freedom who are driven by the devil and want to fulfill Biblical prophecy and they like to hide clues in hollywood movies and music videos...which is FCKING RETARDED.

[Doomsday Dallas]

What this illustrates is that those with money hold all the playing pieces...they even hold more power than our own government. This is completely believable and I don't think many would disagree with it.

What this does NOT illustrate is that there is some hidden global illuminati with an evil agenda to take away everyone's freedom who are driven by the devil and want to fulfill Biblical prophecy and they like to hide clues in hollywood movies and music videos...which is FCKING RETARDED.


Maybe I need to bump up my Shutter Island thread after work

[Doomsday Dallas]

What this illustrates is that those with money hold all the playing pieces...they even hold more power than our own government. This is completely believable and I don't think many would disagree with it.

What this does NOT illustrate is that there is some hidden global illuminati with an evil agenda to take away everyone's freedom who are driven by the devil and want to fulfill Biblical prophecy and they like to hide clues in hollywood movies and music videos...which is FCKING RETARDED.


http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Duck-Tales-Illuminati.png

Even when they spell it out for you.... you still can't see it.

BTW... if those with money hold all the playing pieces...
Wouldn't that include the entertainment industry?
Wouldn't that include the churches?
What about the sports industry?

People with money can't have these industries in their back pocket?

Also... the Illuminati (in America) is documented fact.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ec/6f/04/ec6f041f36c146b2b3bcd978dbf4aeda.jpg

Is this just a coincidence -PT- ? It just happens to look like an owl by chance?

I mean, if they clan put a clue like that at the Capitol Building... surely they
can put a few in Hollywood.

[~primetime~]

It would NOT include the entertainment industry (I work in that btw) Only the uber rich billionaires. There are millions of millionaires.

An illuminati sign in a cartoon or music video means jack shit. Why would they even do that? For fun?...that's stupid

If they designed the street to look like an owl, that also means jack shit. You think that's proof of an evil hidden global agenda??? Get real, this isn't National Treasure staring Nic Cage.

[~primetime~]

You ever consider that bored Hollywood editors are just having fun with people like you?

[Doomsday Dallas]

It would NOT include the entertainment industry (I work in that btw) Only the uber rich billionaires. There are millions of millionaires.

An illuminati sign in a cartoon or music video means jack shit. Why would they even do that? For fun?...that's stupid

If they designed the street to look like an owl, that also means jack shit. You think that's proof of an evil hidden global agenda??? Get real, this isn't National Treasure staring Nic Cage.


I'm not getting into these Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, Eye's Wide Shut, Evil Spirits, Entity Possession, Satanic Cult types of discussions with you again...

The $hit is out there... All kinds of Alien Bull$hit that we can't even begin to fathom. Secret Societies all over the place.

There is something happening in the spirit world... that's for damn sure.
And there is definitely some kind of underground network that we are
all completely oblivious to.

But I ain't tryin to go there... cause that's just the tip of the ice berg.