Bigger Asterisk Title: *15 Warriors or *02 Lakers

[SilkkTheShocker]

*15 Warriors: Didn't play a healthy team all postseason, and played a Cavs team missing two of their three best players.

*02 Lakers: Took blatant ref rigging for them to even get Finals. Tainted championship.

[Sakkreth]

At least warriors won fairly, injuries are kind of part of the game even if it sucks. Ref rigging though is way different. That three peat is a joke 2000 and 2002 WCFs were both rigged.

[SexSymbol]

At least warriors won fairly, injuries are kind of part of the game even if it sucks. Ref rigging though is way different. That three peat is a joke 2000 and 2002 WCFs were both rigged.

:facepalm


to answer the question, 2012 heat

[Sakkreth]

:facepalm


to answer the question, 2012 heat

Eik braskiu skint anglas blet.

[warriorfan]

*15 Warriors: Didn't play a healthy team all postseason, and played a Cavs team missing two of their three best players.

*02 Lakers: Took blatant ref rigging for them to even get Finals. Tainted championship.

Kyrie was a huge loss for Cleveland in 2015. However Kevin Love missing in 2015 was not as big of a hindrance as some would think

If you remember, while both teams were at full strength, Cleveland got blown out twice in a row in games 1 and 2. The first turn of the tide was in game 3 where Cleveland secured their first win, without Kevin Love playing a single minute (Game 3 of the 2016 Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201606080CLE.html))

Kevin Love also facilitated the Cavaliers huge lead in the elimination game 6 when he sat on the bench. Kevin Love went out with 11 minutes left in the first quarter and the Warriors were held to their lowest scoring quarter of the entire playoff (Game 6 of the 2016 Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201606160CLE.html))

At the end of the 2016 Finals, Kevin Love averaged only 8 points a game on 47% True Shooting (Statistics of the 2016 Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2016-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html)). And these numbers were also boosted due to the fact that Draymond Green and Andrew Bogut were out of commission due to suspension and injury.

Basketball is a game of matchups and Kevin Love has proven himself to not be effective against the matchups that a healthy Golden State team produces.

So due to the ineffectiveness of Kevin Love against Golden State due to matchup problems, Golden State of 2016 was more depleted than the Cleveland team of 2015. (Golden State's best player was compromised. Golden State's best defender missed a crucial close out game. Golden State's rim protector missed 1 and a half games. Golden State's best perimeter defender and previous year's FMVP was extremely disabled for at least one game, more likely two.)

[Nilocon165]

Eik braskiu skint anglas blet.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4vms5.jpg

wut

[Sakkreth]

http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4vms5.jpg

wut

Told him to go pick up strawberries as he's 60iq immigrant in UK.

[Gileraracer]

*16 Cavaliers: Game 4 Green got suspended, game 5 Curry was miraculously fouled out.

That's one hell of an asterisk right there.

[SexSymbol]

Told him to go pick up strawberries as he's 60iq immigrant in UK.
sadly you're wrong, young boy

[hold this L]

OP, you've been melting down and can't get the Warriors out of your head since Durant joined them like some sad cuck. Do you have a life bruh? :lol

[Sakkreth]

sadly you're wrong, young boy
55iq ?

[Bankaii]

2002 Lakers.
While 2016 proved the Warriors wouldn't have won in 2015 if just Kyrie could've played, at least the won fairly.
The lakers was the biggest rigjob in NBA history.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Were the teams that the 02 Lakers faced hampered by injuries/"suspensions"?

[SexSymbol]

55iq ?
At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/

[K Xerxes]

At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/

...Because he's in triple digits. You are literally the dumbest poster on this forum.

[Doranku]

lol, game 5 in the SAC/LA series was equally "rigged" for Sacramento as it was for LA in game 6.

Then, the Kings lost game 7 at home in OT in a completely fairly officiated game.

Compare this to the '15 Warriors who faced teams with injured key players in EVERY round? It's not even close. :oldlol:

[SexSymbol]

...Because he's in triple digits. You are literally the dumbest poster on this forum.
it's highly unlikely that the dude has an IQ of 100+.
If he had, he's doing a marvelous job hiding this fact from anyone.

[BeastMode24]

*16 Cavs
Warriors were up 3-1 before lesilver and injuries derailed the Warriors. Draymond getting suspended in game 5. Bogut going down in game 5. Iggy's back giving out in game 6. Curry marred in foul trouble and fouled out in game 6 also got 3 fouls in the first half of game 7.

16 Cavs also literally got a free ride to the finals while the Wariors reward for winning 73 games was having to kill themselves just getting to the finals because they had to play a stacked Thunder team while the Cavs cruised. Cavs also played a Raptors team without Jonas Valanuchias who had been the best player on the Raptors in the playoffs and got to avoid a Heat team which was derailed by Whiteside and Bosh going down.

[I<3NBA]

asterisk titles needs to be put to rest.

winning a title is so friggin hard. if a team wins one, then they deserve it. no ifs or buts about it.

[Lebronxrings]

...Because he's in triple digits. You are literally the dumbest poster on this forum.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

lol @ bragging about a double digit IQ :roll: :roll:

[Sakkreth]

I don't even have to try, he does it to himself... :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/

Are you aware that 75 and below IQ is basically considered mental retardation? All you did was make yourself look like an idiot. You drooling ass retard. :oldlol:

[Big164]

2016 Cavs


Never have I seen the best player of a series get suspended in an elimnation game. Egregious.

[Megabox!]

2016 Cavs


Never have I seen the best player of a series get suspended in an elimnation game. Egregious.
So 1 game out of a 7 game series was enough to to put a asterisk next to the team that came back from being down 3-1? You're a moron

[Milbuck]

At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/
This f*cking guy :roll: :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/


...Because he's in triple digits. You are literally the dumbest poster on this forum.

http://thefw.com/files/2013/05/OhComeOn.gif


just does it to himself man..


sexsymbol like


http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/018/971/b92.gif











http://24.media.tumblr.com/1549ef9f321d6a245b4abec88e25b121/tumblr_moz0rx8lzE1sqv808o1_250.gif

[Hey Yo]

At least I'm in double digits, not like you :/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5e/65/12/5e651293d73fd0102b2e9c7f5a49ef72.jpg


http://thewealthwatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Acme-Wingsuit.jpg

[BedroomBully]

Are you aware that 75 and below IQ is basically considered mental retardation? All you did was make yourself look like an idiot. You drooling ass retard. :oldlol:
That's a Kobe fan for you right there. I am telling you, these retards are everywhere out here in LA. Try having a logical bball discussion with them.

[Cone]

both are the 2 flukiest titles no doubt.

Really on the fence here man. Maybe warriors. Cuz they went through the whole playoffs vs teams with significant injuries. Whereas the Lakers had one rigged series.

[Cali Syndicate]

2002 Lakers.
While 2016 proved the Warriors wouldn't have won in 2015 if just Kyrie could've played, at least the won fairly.
The lakers was the biggest rigjob in NBA history.

a case could be made if the cavs dominated the Warriors, but they didn't. fact is the series went the full 7 games and the series was ultimately won in the final possessions. and on top, Cavs barely won despite Curry having one of his worst playoffs series of his career.

[GrapeApe]

asterisk titles needs to be put to rest.

winning a title is so friggin hard. if a team wins one, then they deserve it. no ifs or buts about it.

The most sensible post in this thread.

[ArbitraryWater]

a case could be made if the cavs dominated the Warriors, but they didn't. fact is the series went the full 7 games and the series was ultimately won in the final possessions. and on top, Cavs barely won despite Curry having one of his worst playoffs series of his career.

Fact is, Cavs werent better than the previous year, but GSW was, by alot.

[Young X]

Fact is, Cavs werent better than the previous year, but GSW was, by alot.Disagree about the Warriors. They were not much better if at all in 2016 than 2015.

[Cali Syndicate]

Fact is, Cavs werent better than the previous year, but GSW was, by alot.

Warriors won 5 more games that the season prior, cavs won 4. That's with the warriors looking to break that record.

[ArbitraryWater]

Disagree about the Warriors. They were not much better if at all in 2016 than 2015.

they were, by alot... I just recently looked at the Cavs performance that series, it was so dreadful outside of LeBron... but GSW wasnt that powerhouse yet. Couldnt take advantage. Cheap title. Klay then made the next step and Dray became a star.


Warriors won 5 more games that the season prior, cavs won 4. That's with the warriors looking to break that record.

thats with GSW not giving a damn and losing 2 home games in the final two weeks to the Celtics and T-Wolves, actually...

Cavs were at 65 win pace in 2015 after the trades and Bron's two week injury break, fyi.

[Cali Syndicate]

they were, by alot... I just recently looked at the Cavs performance that series, it was so dreadful outside of LeBron... but GSW wasnt that powerhouse yet. Couldnt take advantage. Cheap title. Klay then made the next step and Dray became a star.



thats with GSW not giving a damn and losing 2 home games in the final two weeks to the Celtics and T-Wolves, actually...

Cavs were at 65 win pace in 2015 after the trades and Bron's two week injury break, fyi.

not giving a damn, yet publically stated how they are chasing the record. K.

but yes, Warriors were better than they were the season before, as were the Cavs. healthy vs healthy, it can be a toss up either way but imo opinion, warriors are the better team. Curry doesnt lose his rhythm and conditioning basically missing the first 2 weeks of the playoffs and we'd all be singing a different tune.

[ArbitraryWater]

not giving a damn, yet publically stated how they are chasing the record. K.

but yes, Warriors were better than they were the season before, as were the Cavs. healthy vs healthy, it can be a toss up either way but imo opinion, warriors are the better team. Curry doesnt lose his rhythm and conditioning basically missing the first 2 weeks of the playoffs and we'd all be singing a different tune.

how exactly were the Cavs better? Nothing indicates that... 65 win pace, 12-2 going into the finals with a depleted roster.... just nothing. Sorry.

[RRR3]

how exactly were the Cavs better? Nothing indicates that... 65 win pace, 12-2 going into the finals with a depleted roster.... just nothing. Sorry.
Which team had LeGod?




There's your answer.






LeBeast :bowdown:

[Cali Syndicate]

how exactly were the Cavs better? Nothing indicates that... 65 win pace, 12-2 going into the finals with a depleted roster.... just nothing. Sorry.

because it was pretty clear lebron was coasting in the regular season and still won 67 games? because the core group has a year under their belt and built some chemistry? Because as a group they should be hungrier coming off a finals loss?

While for the warriors, they were chasing the bulls record.

[ArbitraryWater]

because it was pretty clear lebron was coasting in the regular season and still won 67 games? because the core group has a year under their belt and built some chemistry? Because as a group they should be hungrier coming off a finals loss?

While for the warriors, they were chasing the bulls record.

all of that is vague.. bron was coasting just as much last year, and the chemistry was fine... plus they didnt win 67 lol wtf?

65 win pace after the trades/injury break... they were a better team, GSW was a worse one, its just obvious... accept it. If you really think about it, youd admit it too, youre not that dumb.

[SilkkTheShocker]

15 cavs > 16 cavs. It's a myth that cavs suddenly became some kind of machine. They were dealing in 15 before Love and Irving got hurt. I forget the numbers, but they were on pace to explode and than the injuries hit. 16 cavs switched coaches, and their defense was hot garbage until game 3 of the finals. My sure what the stats are, but they were probably one of the most mediocre defensive teams to win it all.