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AirBonner
08-23-2016, 09:39 PM
What would of been his accomplishments?

SamuraiSWISH
08-23-2016, 09:45 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie

AirBonner
08-23-2016, 09:48 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie
So he would of accomplished more with less? Interesting. Why couldn't he do it with the lakers?

KirbyPls
08-23-2016, 09:48 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie

:biggums:

He didn't come close to these accolades as the first option, with a green light, on far better teams than the OP's hypothetical.

SamuraiSWISH
08-23-2016, 09:54 PM
So he would of accomplished more with less? Interesting. Why couldn't he do it with the lakers?
He would've had more opportunity to shine individually, earlier, without a top ten all time player at his peak playing along side him ...

So yes. Think an even more aggressive, out to prove himself young Frobe from 2000 to 2008. No player to run an offense through first, before he got the green light. Unlike in LA where he had to wait until 2004 - 2005 for it to truly be his team.

So, more scoring titles and possible MVPs is a given. He'd also have a legit sidekick who complimented him in Iguodala, earlier than he got Gasol, by 2005. And Kobe's peak was 2006 to 2008. So more opportunity, especially in the weak east to be in the Finals. Thus, MVP arguments are more valid.

Kobe didn't have legit help until he got Gasol in 2008, which was the last year of his physical prime. When the Lakers were his team, he had bogus rosters from 2005 through mid way in the 2008 season.

And since when is 3 rings > 5 rings? And why would my logical answers bother anyone considering its hypothetical anyway?

ArbitraryWater
08-23-2016, 10:00 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie

what the fck :biggums:

ISHGoat
08-23-2016, 10:12 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie

when this many people in a row from different fanbases think you're delusional, then you are delusional

raprap
08-23-2016, 10:12 PM
3x Rings
3x Finals MVPs
3x MVPs
6x scoring titles

Along side Andre Iquodala

Poor man's MJ and Scottie
Damn Kobe should've went to the Sixers! We missed out :eek:

SamuraiSWISH
08-23-2016, 10:36 PM
Multiple fan bases calling me delusional?

A Celtics fan and a few LeBron Stans ... Both of which hate Kobe with a passion. It's not difficult to comprehend the bias.

2000 - 2004, Kobe without Shaq has more opportunity for scoring titles, without needing to bend his personal game, or ceiling to accommodate championship winning team ball. While deferring to a once I'm a lifetime top ten all time player.

Staying with me, LeBron and Celtic Kobe hating weirdos ...

2005 - 2007, Kobe's peak seasons. Same scoring titles he won, but now instead of inconsistent Lamar Odom as his next best player, you have Andre Iquodala. Kobe's Pippen.

In the weakest eastern conference era of all time, 2001 to 2007, if the garbage Cavs with young raw LeBron made it to the Finals ... Then prime - peak Kobe will get there with just adequate help as well. Thus the case for MVP, along with scoring titles he really did win in those seasons.

Along with 3x championships as a rough guesstimate for the 2006 to 2010 seasons. More than fair hypothetical for an all time great, 2nd best SG ever, one of the greatest scorers ever, and a top ten player all time.

Let's not get carried away with disrespect. Kobe's career situation allowed him with greater team success early, as opposed to potential greater individual accolades. It was a trade off.

This situation accounts for a greater balance. 2 less rings than the whopping 5 he actually has, but 2 more MVPs and more scoring titles.

That sounds honest.

SouBeachTalents
08-23-2016, 10:42 PM
Multiple fan bases calling me delusional?

A Celtics fan and a few LeBron Stans ... Both of which hate Kobe with a passion. It's not difficult to comprehend the bias.

2000 - 2004, Kobe without Shaq has more opportunity for scoring titles, without needing to bend his personal game, or ceiling to accommodate championship winning team ball. While deferring to a once I'm a lifetime top ten all time player.

Staying with me, LeBron and Celtic Kobe hating weirdos ...

2005 - 2007, Kobe's peak seasons. Same scoring titles he won, but now instead of inconsistent Lamar Odom as his next best player, you have Andre Iquodala. Kobe's Pippen.

In the weakest eastern conference era of all time, 2001 to 2007, if the garbage Cavs with young raw LeBron made it to the Finals ... Then prime - peak Kobe will get there with just adequate help as well. Thus the case for MVP, along with scoring titles he really did win in those seasons.

Along with 3x championships as a rough guesstimate for the 2006 to 2010 seasons. More than fair hypothetical for an all time great, 2nd best SG ever, one of the greatest scorers ever, and a top ten player all time.

Let's not get carried away with disrespect. Kobe's career situation allowed him with greater team success early, as opposed to potential greater individual accolades. It was a trade off.

This situation accounts for a greater balance. 2 less rings than the whopping 5 he actually has, but 2 more MVPs and more scoring titles.

That sounds honest.

3 titles from '06-'10 with the 76ers roster and coaching? I don't know about that

Bankaii
08-23-2016, 11:04 PM
Multiple fan bases calling me delusional?

A Celtics fan and a few LeBron Stans ... Both of which hate Kobe with a passion. It's not difficult to comprehend the bias.

2000 - 2004, Kobe without Shaq has more opportunity for scoring titles, without needing to bend his personal game, or ceiling to accommodate championship winning team ball. While deferring to a once I'm a lifetime top ten all time player.

Staying with me, LeBron and Celtic Kobe hating weirdos ...

2005 - 2007, Kobe's peak seasons. Same scoring titles he won, but now instead of inconsistent Lamar Odom as his next best player, you have Andre Iquodala. Kobe's Pippen.

In the weakest eastern conference era of all time, 2001 to 2007, if the garbage Cavs with young raw LeBron made it to the Finals ... Then prime - peak Kobe will get there with just adequate help as well. Thus the case for MVP, along with scoring titles he really did win in those seasons.

Along with 3x championships as a rough guesstimate for the 2006 to 2010 seasons. More than fair hypothetical for an all time great, 2nd best SG ever, one of the greatest scorers ever, and a top ten player all time.

Let's not get carried away with disrespect. Kobe's career situation allowed him with greater team success early, as opposed to potential greater individual accolades. It was a trade off.

This situation accounts for a greater balance. 2 less rings than the whopping 5 he actually has, but 2 more MVPs and more scoring titles.

That sounds honest.
It's pretty obvious you either have no idea what you're talking about or didn't watch the Sixers at all. I'm assuming both.

From 1996-1999 Kobe was even a high enough talent level to be a franchise player.
From 2000-2003 he was a superstar but wasn't a complete enough player to carry a bunch of defensive role players to a ring.
In 2005 AI put up 31 on 47% and they still got bounced in the 1st round.
From 2005-07 you're putting up with an injury prone Webber.
You keep talking about Iggy's like he was some beast but he was raw as hell until around 2010. He was not where near as good as Lamar Odom during that period.
From 2008-2010 you're looking at Iggy and Andre Miller as your 2nd and 3rd options. If people shit on Pau and Odom as a supporting cast along with the GOAT coach, what do you think people would say about Kobe's help on the Sixers?
After that he has no chance against the Heat.

He doesn't win a single ring.mhe may make the Finals a couple times but gets destroyed by whoever is in the West.
Kobe thrives off of dominant front courts. Is old, broken down Webber, Dalembert, and Reggie freaking Evans fit that role.

This has nothing to do with being a Lebron fan. I'm a 76ers fan that actually watched these teams every year.
Just admit you were talking out of you ass, and take the L.

TheWinningFam
08-23-2016, 11:19 PM
0 rings

FreezingTsmoove
08-23-2016, 11:22 PM
:biggums:

He didn't come close to these accolades as the first option, with a green light, on far better teams than the OP's hypothetical.

Didnt come close :lol

He outplayed Bron in both of his mvp seasons in 09, 10

He literally won 2 first option rings and put so much fear in David Sterns heart that he vetoed a trade for a 5"11 PG that would have helped Kobe win another ring :lol

TheWinningFam
08-23-2016, 11:33 PM
Didnt come close :lol

He outplayed Bron in both of his mvp seasons in 09, 10

He literally won 2 first option rings and put so much fear in David Sterns heart that he vetoed a trade for a 5"11 PG that would have helped Kobe win another ring :lol
Kobe barely made the playoffs with prime d howard and steve nash

bobopenguin
08-23-2016, 11:50 PM
atleast 4/7.

G-train
08-23-2016, 11:54 PM
Pretty impossible to predict IMO

Lebronxrings
08-24-2016, 12:05 AM
SamuraiSwish is legit retarded

34-24 Footwork
08-24-2016, 03:48 AM
Kobe barely made the playoffs with prime d howard and steve nash

Lol. So which Howard did Kobe beat in the finals???

This is what irrational hatred looks like.

I<3NBA
08-24-2016, 08:05 AM
he'd have >1 rape case.

that's about it.

SexSymbol
08-24-2016, 08:18 AM
So he would of accomplished more with less? Interesting. Why couldn't he do it with the lakers?
that isn't more, 5>3, basic math.

AirBonner
08-24-2016, 08:58 AM
that isn't more, 5>3, basic math.
2 more mvps 1 more fmvp? No sidekick rings is better.

Cold soul
08-24-2016, 10:16 AM
It's impossible to know or predict.

AirBonner
08-24-2016, 10:51 AM
It's impossible to know or predict.
I think AI is a good example of what Kobe's career would be. Probably a few more accolades but no closer to the title.

Snarky Narc
08-24-2016, 11:12 AM
He would have actually gone to prison for the Denver incident if he weren't a Laker.