View Full Version : The USA and Turkey are bombing the Kurds right now
StephHamann
08-24-2016, 02:06 PM
So the USA invested lots of money and ressources to support the Kurds, and now bombs them to hell.
Can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/24/turkey-launches-major-operation-against-isis-in-key-border-town
Nick Young
08-24-2016, 02:11 PM
what the phuck is USA doing :mad:
Obama you ISIS supporting POS!
The Kurds have been loyal and consistent allies to us for DECADES and we keep shitting on them. I hate how our government treats the Kurds.
This is what slavish adherence to NATO does to us. Turkey aren't even paying their way in NATO and we are bombing the Kurds for them.
fiddy
08-24-2016, 02:13 PM
The whole situation is so confusing right now. YPG are retreating, however not the SDF.
StephHamann
08-24-2016, 02:18 PM
The whole situation is so confusing right now. YPG are retreating, however not the SDF.
At least Putin/Assad have clear goals, the USA has more of a trial and error approach in her foreign policy.
fiddy
08-24-2016, 02:19 PM
At least Putin/Assad have clear goals, the USA has more of a trial and error approach in her foreign policy.
Dont think so, their goal is destabilization in the region.
So the USA invested lots of money and ressources to support the Kurds, and now bombs them to hell.
Can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/24/turkey-launches-major-operation-against-isis-in-key-border-town
Obama trying to help out his boys...
BoutPractice
08-24-2016, 02:34 PM
I don't think anyone seriously expected the USA to support a redrawing of the map of Turkey to the benefit of the Kurds...
And I don't think Kurdish fighters have a serious expectations that the USA are going to support them in their bid to set up an independent state at the expense of Turkey either (at least I hope not! That would be a tragic misunderstanding)
Rather, the Americans are trying to use both Turkey and the Kurds to fight against a common enemy, while perfectly aware that their other objectives clash. And wherever they clash, America will tend to side with Turkey because it is strategically more important.
(You guys are pretty prudish as far galactic empires go, I must say... stuff like this certainly wouldn't have shocked the Brits)
I don't think anyone seriously expected the USA to support a redrawing of the map of Turkey to the benefit of the Kurds...
Problem #1
And I don't think Kurdish fighters have a serious expectations that the USA are going to support them in their bid to set up an independent state at the expense of Turkey either (at least I hope not! That would be a tragic misunderstanding)
Rather, the Americans are trying to use both Turkey and the Kurds to fight against a common enemy, while perfectly aware that their other objectives clash. And wherever they clash, America will tend to side with Turkey because it is strategically more important.
(For the galactic empire, you guys are pretty prudish at times)
Problem #2.
Turkey is not our ally. The Kurds are. Well, that used to be true before Obama became president.
NumberSix
08-24-2016, 02:42 PM
Well, Turkey supports ISIS and Obama is the founder of ISIS. Not rocket science, no pun intended.
senelcoolidge
08-24-2016, 03:14 PM
Funny how on television they say that Obama and the Turks are bombing ISIS, but in fact they support ISIS. The media just lies all the time. You can't believe a thing they say.
Dresta
08-24-2016, 07:06 PM
I don't think anyone seriously expected the USA to support a redrawing of the map of Turkey to the benefit of the Kurds...
And I don't think Kurdish fighters have a serious expectations that the USA are going to support them in their bid to set up an independent state at the expense of Turkey either (at least I hope not! That would be a tragic misunderstanding)
Rather, the Americans are trying to use both Turkey and the Kurds to fight against a common enemy, while perfectly aware that their other objectives clash. And wherever they clash, America will tend to side with Turkey because it is strategically more important.
(You guys are pretty prudish as far galactic empires go, I must say... stuff like this certainly wouldn't have shocked the Brits)
Bombing the Syrian Kurds is not helping to fight a common enemy: it is deliberately trying to wipe out a military force that has been one of the most effective in fighting ISIS (and also one of the least bad, ethically, though they certainly are no saints). Erdogan is going to carve himself out a nice chunk of Syria; say hello to the Ottomans, v.02.
America really ought to get its nukes out of Incirlik.
Doomsday Dallas
08-24-2016, 11:23 PM
This was the big headline of the day...
hidden behind the earthquake in Italy
hidden behind Trump & Hillary
hidden behind North Korea
even hidden behind Iran
Operation codename: Euphrates Shield is no joke.
(this post comes with credits / theme music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9FXYqauHg))
poido123
08-25-2016, 12:10 AM
This is disgraceful.
Fcking Obama you muslim brotherhood sympathising POS>
Get that treasonous c.unt out of office. :mad:
brownmamba00
08-25-2016, 01:22 AM
Obama:rockon:
poido123
08-25-2016, 01:23 AM
Obama:rockon:
Why do you support this?
:(
brownmamba00
08-25-2016, 01:30 AM
The operation, called Euphrates Shield, has a dual purpose: to dislodge Isis from Jarablus, its last major redoubt on the 500-mile border, and to contain the expansion of Kurdish militias in northern Syria.
Read
brownmamba00
08-25-2016, 01:47 AM
It's one thing to be babblin about something that's happenin in another part of the world and another thing to live it.
Both major airports in Istanbul and Ankara got hit the past year and nowadays they are starting to bomb weddings in smaller towns rural areas. Kurdish and Turkish villages on Turkish soil have been suicide bombed, mortar bombed and raided.
Obv something needed to happen
@poid
fiddy
08-25-2016, 04:04 AM
It's one thing to be babblin about something that's happenin in another part of the world and another thing to live it.
Both major airports in Istanbul and Ankara got hit the past year and nowadays they are starting to bomb weddings in smaller towns rural areas. Kurdish and Turkish villages on Turkish soil have been suicide bombed, mortar bombed and raided.
Obv something needed to happen
@poid
If you look more carefully at the so called terrorist attacks in Turkey, most of them target Kurds. Coincidence? The wedding the was blown up last Saturday night was a Kurdish wedding in Gaziantep. More interestingly, the groom belongs to the pro-kurdish opposition HDP party. The wedding was also attended by party members and sympathizers of party. Previously, two Kurdish protests were blown up in Suruc and Anakra. "ISIS" accidentally targets Kurds inside Turkey.
dunksby
08-25-2016, 04:17 AM
It's what Erdogan got from the US for not extraditing Gulen, Kerry just announced that the Kurds will not get anymore support from the US if they don't retreat to east of Euphrates.
Nanners
08-25-2016, 05:07 AM
The USA and Saudis are also bombing the shit out of Yemen right now.
Nanners
08-25-2016, 05:11 AM
At least Putin/Assad have clear goals, the USA has more of a trial and error approach in her foreign policy.
mostly error. how many success stories exist in the history of US military interventionism and nation building? South Korea turned out pretty good in the end... anything else?
fiddy
08-25-2016, 05:15 AM
The USA and Saudis are also bombing the shit out of Yemen right now.
US does not participate in that coalition, its led by the Saudis and their regional "allies"
Nanners
08-25-2016, 05:29 AM
US does not participate in that coalition, its led by the Saudis and their regional "allies"
supplying them with weapons and intelligence info doesnt count as participation?
fiddy
08-25-2016, 05:38 AM
supplying them with weapons and intelligence info doesnt count as participation?
Not in the sense of directly bombing Yemenis targets.
Nanners
08-25-2016, 05:47 AM
Not in the sense of directly bombing Yemenis targets.
either way there is blood on US hands. we knew what those bombs were intended for when we gave them to the saudis.
The USA and Saudis are also bombing the shit out of Yemen right now.
it is crazy what's happening there especially considering that refugees are leaving Yemen for Somalia of all places.
It's one thing to be babblin about something that's happenin in another part of the world and another thing to live it.
Both major airports in Istanbul and Ankara got hit the past year and nowadays they are starting to bomb weddings in smaller towns rural areas. Kurdish and Turkish villages on Turkish soil have been suicide bombed, mortar bombed and raided.
Obv something needed to happen
@poid
That doesn't sound like a Democrat...
You mean hugs and promises to cut carbon emissions doesn't make people not hate you? Say whattttt?
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