Serious Discussion. Why does LebRon struggle against the Spurs in the finals

[FreezingTsmoove]

Is it coaching? Lack of volume scoring? I mean we are talking about the 3rd greatest player of all time! How can he only have 5 wins in 16 tries against the Spurs?

Does it show the dominance of the Spurs organization :eek:

[Bankaii]

Serious question: Are you a Lakers, Warriors, or Heat bandwagoning bitch?

[Big164]

He's not the Mamba.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Deflect all you want. Beating the 73 Warriors was LeBron's legacy win. No matter how hard you try to forget about, bring something else up, etc. It's there. The greatest comeback in NBA history. Here is the thing you Warriors fans need to understand, the stink from the 16 Finals is never going to go away. Your franchise literally had to scramble to get a top 3 player because of the way LeBron James dismantled that. Let me repeat, a 73 win team with the COY, Best SG in the league, Finals MVP off the bench, DPOY runner-UP/allstar, and the unanimous MVP took apart their team in order to get someone to give them a better chance of beating a Cavs team that no one gave a shot of winning this year. That is pure destruction. I have never seen one player in the history of the game manipulate a team's whole offseason the way LeBron James did.

[warriorfan]

Is it coaching? Lack of volume scoring? I mean we are talking about the 3rd greatest player of all time! How can he only have 5 wins in 16 tries against the Spurs?

Does it show the dominance of the Spurs organization :eek:

Quality rim protection. It's been many times proven that if LeBron can't get his garbage around the rim, then he can't score efficiently.

[BigKAT]

Deflect all you want. Beating the 73 Warriors was LeBron's legacy win. No matter how hard you try to forget about, bring something else up, etc. It's there. The greatest comeback in NBA history. Here is the thing you Warriors fans need to understand, the stink from the 16 Finals is never going to go away. Your franchise literally had to scramble to get a top 3 player because of the way LeBron James dismantled that. Let me repeat, a 73 win team with the COY, Best SG in the league, Finals MVP off the bench, DPOY runner-UP/allstar, and the unanimous MVP took apart their team in order to get someone to give them a better chance of beating a Cavs team that no one gave a shot of winning this year. That is pure destruction. I have never seen one player in the history of the game manipulate a team's whole offseason the way LeBron James did.

As heroic as the Cav's victory was,
It was what it was, Davis Vs Goliath.
Everything you say is true. But not even the Cavs are expecting to take the title next year. And that was before Durant.

Anyhow to the subject at hand,
Your agenda is pretty obvious OP, trying to discredit Lebron.
I'd say it's mostly coaching that was his undoing. Arguebly the best coach in the world was on the other end of the court. Who was on his end?

Mike Brown?
Erik Spolstra?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Deflect all you want. Beating the 73 Warriors was LeBron's legacy win. No matter how hard you try to forget about, bring something else up, etc. It's there. The greatest comeback in NBA history. Here is the thing you Warriors fans need to understand, the stink from the 16 Finals is never going to go away. Your franchise literally had to scramble to get a top 3 player because of the way LeBron James dismantled that. Let me repeat, a 73 win team with the COY, Best SG in the league, Finals MVP off the bench, DPOY runner-UP/allstar, and the unanimous MVP took apart their team in order to get someone to give them a better chance of beating a Cavs team that no one gave a shot of winning this year. That is pure destruction. I have never seen one player in the history of the game manipulate a team's whole offseason the way LeBron James did.

tl dr :lol

[GrapeApe]

He was only 22 in his first meeting with the Spurs and he brought a team to the finals that had no business being there. We can throw that one out. He was great in 2013 and good in 2014. Overall that nets him a score of very good and a 1-1 record against the Spurs in his prime. I wouldn't exactly call that struggling.

[tpols]

Quality rim protection. It's been many times proven that if LeBron can't get his garbage around the rim, then he can't score efficiently.

LeBron is very fortunate he did not face the spurs when they had David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

[NBAGOAT]

Nice to see morons still using team record to judge individuals. Spurs had the better team 2/3 times pretty simple. An actual answer for why Lebron doesn't play too well vs the Spurs is Pop's defense. It's designed to not give up layups, 3's especially corner ones. Also Spurs don't gamble much with traps etc and usually don't double and are most willing to give up midrange jumpers. That's like the perfect defense vs Lebron lead teams.

[I<3NBA]

why can't Kobe go to the playoffs without a decent big man?

a superstar should be able to at least get to the playoffs even with garbage surrounding him. that's what separates a superstar from just a star.

[FreezingTsmoove]

why can't Kobe go to the playoffs without a decent big man?

a superstar should be able to at least get to the playoffs even with garbage surrounding him. that's what separates a superstar from just a star.

Theres garbage and then theres Smush Parker, crackhead Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown in your rotation garbage

[Megabox!]

Theres garbage and then theres Smush Parker, crackhead Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown in your rotation garbage
So you use that as an excuse for Kobe but when a 22 year old Lebron leads a squad with Drew Gooden, Boobie Gibson and Damon Jones to the finals and losses then it's completely his fault. One guy was in the prime of his life barely squeaking in the playoffs while the other guy was barely into his 20's leading a team to the finals.

[FreezingTsmoove]

So you use that as an excuse for Kobe but when a 22 year old Lebron leads a squad with Drew Gooden, Boobie Gibson and Damon Jones to the finals and losses then it's completely his fault. One guy was in the prime of his life barely squeaking in the playoffs while the other guy was barely into his 20's leading a team to the finals.

To be honest Drew Goiden, Boobie Gibson, and Damon Jones are better than Smush Parker, Crackhead Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown

[SilkkTheShocker]

To be honest Drew Goiden, Boobie Gibson, and Damon Jones are better than Smush Parker, Crackhead Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown
Odom alone was miles better than any of those players.

[BedroomBully]

Let me hit this retard with a better question. What is LeBron's record against Kobe in a head to head all time match up? What are their stats? Can someone please post them so I can finish off this Fakboi!

[ShawkFactory]

To be honest Drew Goiden, Boobie Gibson, and Damon Jones are better than Smush Parker, Crackhead Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown
Maybe.

But nobody is winning anything with either of those squads so whatever.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Odom alone was miles better than any of those players.

He was miles ahead of the number of times he used crack

[DirkNowitzki41]

OP, you have a mental disorder. Please get checked. I'm actually worried about online kids showing this behavior ever since that Elliot Rodger kid.

Don't go on a rampage now.

Did he hurt you because he left the Heat?

[FreezingTsmoove]

OP, you have a mental disorder. Please get checked. I'm actually worried about online kids showing this behavior ever since that Elliot Rodger kid.

Don't go on a rampage now.

Did he hurt you because he left the Heat?

He destroyed what we built

We didnt need him. Bosh and Wade would have beat the shit out of the Bulls and whatever shitty team the Cavs organization put together

[ShawkFactory]

He was miles ahead of the number of times he used crack
Put the 40 down bro

[J Shuttlesworth]

We didnt need him. r
We? I thought you were a Warriors/Lakers/Spurs fan?

[Mr Feeny]

LeBron is very fortunate he did not face the spurs when they had David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

Kobe is lucky he did not have to face more of T-Prince during his runs:applause:

[rmt]

Great perimeter defense by Bowen/Leonard and great paint/rim defense by Duncan.

[Ramza]

Deflect all you want. Beating the 73 Warriors was LeBron's legacy win. No matter how hard you try to forget about, bring something else up, etc. It's there. The greatest comeback in NBA history. Here is the thing you Warriors fans need to understand, the stink from the 16 Finals is never going to go away. Your franchise literally had to scramble to get a top 3 player because of the way LeBron James dismantled that. Let me repeat, a 73 win team with the COY, Best SG in the league, Finals MVP off the bench, DPOY runner-UP/allstar, and the unanimous MVP took apart their team in order to get someone to give them a better chance of beating a Cavs team that no one gave a shot of winning this year. That is pure destruction. I have never seen one player in the history of the game manipulate a team's whole offseason the way LeBron James did.
Bodied.