Not being an Islamophobe = Cuck?

[JtotheIzzo]

This is what one would deduct from reading these pages.


I am curious though about all the hard anti-Islamic posts on here.

Do any of you know Muslims or deal with them in your day to day?

If so do you take this hard line against them or do you cuck in their presence?

[highwhey]

They will all lie. 9er claims to have muslim friends yet on his instagram he has a screenshot of J$'s InsideHoops profile with the caption 'Terrorist Scum'.

We all know J$ is a kind person with the best of interests in everyone; far removed from any extremist activities.

[JtotheIzzo]

on his instagram he has a screenshot of J$'s InsideHoops profile with the caption 'Terrorist Scum'.

the f*ck?

I guess we tend to forget that some people on here are just clowning while others may have some serious mental issues they haven't worked out yet. Assuming people are just having a laugh or arguing to pass time is not exactly accurate, some are seriously f*cked mentally.

[highwhey]

the f*ck?

I guess we tend to forget that some people on here are just clowning while others may have some serious mental issues they haven't worked out yet. Assuming people are just having a laugh or arguing to pass time is not exactly accurate, some are seriously f*cked mentally.
I no longer have instagram as I deleted it so I can't search his profile, but it was definitely disturbing. He had maybe less than 10 posts but one other post was a screenshot of several decapitated heads on spikes, all muslims and his caption was 'islam, religion of peace'.

His other posts were of him enjoying a beer in the kitchen, the other of playing billiards, etc. It was quite unsettling to browse his profile. His instagram was something like 9erempireee

[9erempiree]

I'm going to break it down for you guys and this is the most reasonable and accurate take on Islam. It should be copied, pasted and printed.

Muslims come in 3 tiers for me:

Tier 1 - 100% Muslim/Islam in its truest form:

These Muslims are EVIL and this is why I believe Islam is evil. There is a pretty significant amount of people in this world who are 100% Muslim. Enough to consider Islam a violent and evil cult/religion.

ISIS, Terrorists and Radicals represent Islam in its truest form because they practice Islam word by word from the Koran. This is Islam in its truest from. They also practice Sharia Law which is a major part of Islam and they also declare war on non-believers. This is how the Koran is written and this is how they practice it. These are true Muslims.

Tier 2 - Fake Muslims.

These kind of Muslims are fake. They live in the western world and preach how peaceful Islam is and go out of their way to defend it. Little do they know they are not real Muslims. They don't practice 100%, word for word, from the Koran but they think they are holier than thou. They practice 40% of it at most.

Just because you observe Ramadan does not make you a Muslim. If you want to consider yourself a Muslim then you must be crazy. You are basically attaching yourself to tier 1 Muslims.

These kind of Muslims exist on ISH. They are the Jefferson Money's of the world. Always preaching about Islam but doesn't practice it fully to the max.

Islam should be reformed but people disagree. These tier 2 Muslims are subconsciously reforming it by not practicing it word by word from the Koran. So go figure.

Tier 3 Muslim - Namesake

These kind of Muslims, if you can call them that, do not practice anything from the Koran. They claim to be Muslim because of their Muslim names. If you're named Mohammad it's most likely you identify yourself as a Muslim. There are lots of those out here in the US.


As for my friend, he's Muslim by namesake.

As for my personal driver, before he moved back to Yemen, he was tier 2 Muslim. Living in the states and driving his taxi cab. Practices Islam but not everything. He and I discussed thoroughly about Islam way before Obama created ISIS. He feels the same way as I do.

[highwhey]

https://s13.postimg.org/lr7x415xj/IMG_0799.png

[dunksby]

https://s13.postimg.org/lr7x415xj/IMG_0799.png
Wow!

[9erempiree]

As to why I hate Islam?

Islam in its truest form should not exist in this world because of the practices against humanity.

As to why I dislike the Muslims of ISH?

They defend Islam but they are not even 100% Muslim.:hammerhead: I have preached about Islam needing to be reformed but they disagree. Funny how a group of Muslims says everything is ok with Islam but they don't practice it fully.

Do we 'cuck' in their presence?

Nope. Namesake Muslim friend does everything I do.

Muslim Driver drives me around FFS.

[9erempiree]

They will all lie. 9er claims to have muslim friends yet on his instagram he has a screenshot of J$'s InsideHoops profile with the caption 'Terrorist Scum'.

We all know J$ is a kind person with the best of interests in everyone; far removed from any extremist activities.

He is no kind person.

He damn lost his mind.

You guys can also find me here....click and follow....
https://s3.postimg.org/wnpqlyn5v/Firefox_Screenshot_2016_08_27_T07_36_46_790_Z.png

[highwhey]

He is no kind person.

He damn lost his mind.

You guys can also find me here....click and follow....
https://s3.postimg.org/wnpqlyn5v/Firefox_Screenshot_2016_08_27_T07_36_46_790_Z.png
I don't believe Jeff/Steve would be too happy to discover one of their members is falsely representing Insidehoops by offering allegiance to a particular political figure/group.

[9erempiree]

I don't believe Jeff/Steve would be too happy to discover one of their members is falsely representing Insidehoops by offering allegiance to a particular political figure/group.

Jeff tweets to Trump bro.

He recently did. I will find it.

[highwhey]

Jeff tweets to Trump bro.

He recently did. I will find it.
Am waiting

[9erempiree]

I went and look and he took it down but I have my reply to him. Either he did it by accident or he took it down because he didn't want people to get mad at him for supporting Trump. It's pretty much common knowledge that ISH members endorse Trump. There is a lot more of us than any other supporters.

I get my basketball news from him and I remember the tweet to Trump. This is why I say this ISH endorses Trump.

https://s15.postimg.org/hx2c9fx8b/Firefox_Screenshot_2016_08_27_T09_45_04_989_Z.png

[highwhey]

I went and look and he took it down but I have my reply to him. Either he did it by accident or he took it down because he didn't want people to get mad at him for supporting Trump. It's pretty much common knowledge that ISH members endorse Trump. There is a lot more of us than any other supporters.

I get my basketball news from him and I remember the tweet to Trump. This is why I say this ISH endorses Trump.

https://s15.postimg.org/hx2c9fx8b/Firefox_Screenshot_2016_08_27_T09_45_04_989_Z.png
Jeff does not support him.

You can't speak in behalf of an entity of which you have zero ownership in.

[JtotheIzzo]

I'm going to break it down for you guys and this is the most reasonable and accurate take on Islam. It should be copied, pasted and printed.

Muslims come in 3 tiers for me:

Tier 1 - 100% Muslim/Islam in its truest form:

These Muslims are EVIL and this is why I believe Islam is evil. There is a pretty significant amount of people in this world who are 100% Muslim. Enough to consider Islam a violent and evil cult/religion.

ISIS, Terrorists and Radicals represent Islam in its truest form because they practice Islam word by word from the Koran. This is Islam in its truest from. They also practice Sharia Law which is a major part of Islam and they also declare war on non-believers. This is how the Koran is written and this is how they practice it. These are true Muslims.

Tier 2 - Fake Muslims.

These kind of Muslims are fake. They live in the western world and preach how peaceful Islam is and go out of their way to defend it. Little do they know they are not real Muslims. They don't practice 100%, word for word, from the Koran but they think they are holier than thou. They practice 40% of it at most.

Just because you observe Ramadan does not make you a Muslim. If you want to consider yourself a Muslim then you must be crazy. You are basically attaching yourself to tier 1 Muslims.

These kind of Muslims exist on ISH. They are the Jefferson Money's of the world. Always preaching about Islam but doesn't practice it fully to the max.

Islam should be reformed but people disagree. These tier 2 Muslims are subconsciously reforming it by not practicing it word by word from the Koran. So go figure.

Tier 3 Muslim - Namesake

These kind of Muslims, if you can call them that, do not practice anything from the Koran. They claim to be Muslim because of their Muslim names. If you're named Mohammad it's most likely you identify yourself as a Muslim. There are lots of those out here in the US.


As for my friend, he's Muslim by namesake.

As for my personal driver, before he moved back to Yemen, he was tier 2 Muslim. Living in the states and driving his taxi cab. Practices Islam but not everything. He and I discussed thoroughly about Islam way before Obama created ISIS. He feels the same way as I do.

Tier 4: people.

This is the thing, I am a Catholic, but I don't go to church, I use condoms, I don't fancy young boys (jokes), but don't lump me in with everything the IRA did in the 80s.

Islam is being used as a political tool and a way to rally the rubes to win elections in the middle east. Even Saddam at the end started portraying himself as a devout Muslim to garner sympathy.

ISIS, Islamoterrorists etc. Its all poltical, the religion is simply the tie that binds.

There is a lot wrong with the middle east and islamic culture (sexism, racism, violence, religious zealotry), but categorizing 20% of the planet into 3 oversimplified groups is the epitome of ignorant.

[JtotheIzzo]

As to why I hate Islam?

Islam in its truest form should not exist in this world because of the practices against humanity.

As to why I dislike the Muslims of ISH?

They defend Islam but they are not even 100% Muslim.:hammerhead: I have preached about Islam needing to be reformed but they disagree. Funny how a group of Muslims says everything is ok with Islam but they don't practice it fully.

Do we 'cuck' in their presence?

Nope. Namesake Muslim friend does everything I do.

Muslim Driver drives me around FFS.

So you hate moderates because they are not hard core, but you really hate hard cores?

WoW

[9erempiree]

Tier 4: people.

This is the thing, I am a Catholic, but I don't go to church, I use condoms, I don't fancy young boys (jokes), but don't lump me in with everything the IRA did in the 80s.

Islam is being used as a political tool and a way to rally the rubes to win elections in the middle east. Even Saddam at the end started portraying himself as a devout Muslim to garner sympathy.

ISIS, Islamoterrorists etc. Its all poltical, the religion is simply the tie that binds.

There is a lot wrong with the middle east and islamic culture (sexism, racism, violence, religious zealotry), but categorizing 20% of the planet into 3 oversimplified groups is the epitome of ignorant.

Sharia Law is an important part of Islam and those who practice it are Muslims. They represent Islam in its truest form. Beheadings and Sharia Law exists and its not a fairy tale story. We are seeing it live and direct. This is Islam for you.

Other religions will sort of evolve and reform in a sense that nobody practices Christianity or Catholicism fully but over the years traditions get thrown out and the religion evolves in moderation to what we accept as normal. We have yet to see it with Islam. Muslim Americans are trying but they will always side with their brothers and sisters even though they don't practice it fully. They are in a sense hypocrites for doing so.

[9erempiree]

So you hate moderates because they are not hard core, but you really hate hard cores?

WoW

I hate moderates for their hypocrisy and not because they don't practice it 100%.

The hypocrisy is how they can sit there and say Islam is peaceful but yet they have no idea how violent it is because they don't even practice it fully.

It's because they don't practice it fully which makes me to believe they know how violent it is, but they are afraid to speak out against it.

That's the dislike.

[Trollsmasher]

if you don't stand against islam you stand with it:confusedshrug:

therefore you are a cuck

[brownmamba00]

https://s13.postimg.org/lr7x415xj/IMG_0799.png
someone get this mfer in an asylum

batshit crazy

[9erempiree]

Obviously you guys were not around when I made that IG post and what it was all about.

What started out as a joke, even though I meant it, evolved into posting random photos for LIKES.

I have problems? You guys don't have a sense of humor.:oldlol:

[brownmamba00]

obviously you have bi polar disorder

you don't have a (muslim) driver and you're broke as ****.

[9erempiree]

obviously you have bi polar disorder

you don't have a (muslim) driver and you're broke as ****.

Yes, he was my driver. Way back before uber.

We paid him $50 bucks for the entire night. He takes us wherever we wanted to go. He would just wait in the parking lot.

I miss him very much because I went looking for him and his family told me he moved back to Yemen.

People like me in real life. I'm sure you guys are disliked in real life.:rolleyes:

He knew I hated Islam and he had no problems with it because he loved living in America and he understood the Islamic States.

I have talked about him many times on here. He is my source.

[Dresta]

It is not a phobia to dislike a particular religion. Stop trying to turn every opinion that is different to yours into a pathology; indeed, there seems something quite pathological about this tendency of yours.

If you can't see that Islamic culture clashes with western secular culture then you are simply blind or wilfully ignorant. To think you can shove two so different cultures together and hold them together out of sheer good will and ignorant enthusiasm, is to be ignorant of all the lessons of history.

[TheMan]

I'm going to break it down for you guys and this is the most reasonable and accurate take on Islam. It should be copied, pasted and printed.

Muslims come in 3 tiers for me:

Tier 1 - 100% Muslim/Islam in its truest form:

These Muslims are EVIL and this is why I believe Islam is evil. There is a pretty significant amount of people in this world who are 100% Muslim. Enough to consider Islam a violent and evil cult/religion.

ISIS, Terrorists and Radicals represent Islam in its truest form because they practice Islam word by word from the Koran. This is Islam in its truest from. They also practice Sharia Law which is a major part of Islam and they also declare war on non-believers. This is how the Koran is written and this is how they practice it. These are true Muslims.

Tier 2 - Fake Muslims.

These kind of Muslims are fake. They live in the western world and preach how peaceful Islam is and go out of their way to defend it. Little do they know they are not real Muslims. They don't practice 100%, word for word, from the Koran but they think they are holier than thou. They practice 40% of it at most.

Just because you observe Ramadan does not make you a Muslim. If you want to consider yourself a Muslim then you must be crazy. You are basically attaching yourself to tier 1 Muslims.

These kind of Muslims exist on ISH. They are the Jefferson Money's of the world. Always preaching about Islam but doesn't practice it fully to the max.

Islam should be reformed but people disagree. These tier 2 Muslims are subconsciously reforming it by not practicing it word by word from the Koran. So go figure.

Tier 3 Muslim - Namesake

These kind of Muslims, if you can call them that, do not practice anything from the Koran. They claim to be Muslim because of their Muslim names. If you're named Mohammad it's most likely you identify yourself as a Muslim. There are lots of those out here in the US.


As for my friend, he's Muslim by namesake.

As for my personal driver, before he moved back to Yemen, he was tier 2 Muslim. Living in the states and driving his taxi cab. Practices Islam but not everything. He and I discussed thoroughly about Islam way before Obama created ISIS. He feels the same way as I do.
You seriously need help.

I'm being 100% real, I thought you were an unitelligent troll, just saying stupid shit just to get a rise out of people but I really think you are delusional and have no idea how mentally ill you are.

Seriously, go see a psychiatrist.

[Akrazotile]

It is not a phobia to dislike a particular religion. Stop trying to turn every opinion that is different to yours into a pathology; indeed, there seems something quite pathological about this tendency of yours.

If you can't see that Islamic culture clashes with western secular culture then you are simply blind or wilfully ignorant. To think you can shove two so different cultures together and hold them together out of sheer good will and ignorant enthusiasm, is to be ignorant of all the lessons of history.


Exactly this. Nobody has to like an idea or a culture just because it exists and someone else out there has it. What are we, beta intellectual slaves? Oh wait lol, the left.

Funny how the left has no problems clowing on something like scientology. Because, hey, it's full of privileged celebrities and white people, right? So hey, it's cool, we can joke about that.

But Islam? First of all the average liberal try-hard conformist thinks Islam is a race, and that it means brown person. So here comss the white guilt trip. Time to put on the cape and outside underwear! "Minority Rescuer Man to the Rescue!!!!! Im Here To Rescue teh Hirt Feelings!!!!!

They are only reacting protectively to Islam because conservatives react negatively. Liberals entire religion and raison d'etre is to feel superior to conservatives. It is their psychological coping mechanism. And at this point, automatically doing the opposite of conservatives is so ingrained into them it's simply a reflex reaction. They do it on every issue without even thinking about it.

Just look at OP's posts. He is always smugly trying to make conservatives look simple and backward. Condescending them for their political values and beliefs. But then if someone else does the exact same thing to Muslims. Then OP is holier than thou and believes that behavior is base!

Kids, that is called a 'fugazi'.

[Nick Young]

This is what one would deduct from reading these pages.


I am curious though about all the hard anti-Islamic posts on here.

Do any of you know Muslims or deal with them in your day to day?

If so do you take this hard line against them or do you cuck in their presence?

You completely misunderstand the term "cuck" which makes sense because it is modern day slang in the eyes of a babyboomer like yourself.

The term "cuck" has nothing to do with Islam. The term "cuck" describes the modern regressive liberal. Talking about "Islamophobia" (another new word the kids are using) is not intrinsically tied to being a cuck, though the two concepts often overlap.

Don't worry gramps, I'm going to educate you.

This is what sharia looks like. A woman gets publicly flogged for the crime of wearing trousers, and people in the crowd are laughing as she gets whipped. (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=18c_1472211578)

Now you know what sharia culture actually looks like, is this a culture you support coming to Canada?

If you are a true Muslim, there is no picking and choosing which elements of sharia law you support or don't. According to Islam, you either support Sharia law, or you aren't a real Muslim. You can't pick which parts of sharia you like and which you don't. You are either for it or you can't call yourself a Muslim, at least in the eyes of the majority of Muslims in the world.




The kid in this video isn't bad or evil, he's just being honest and talking about his cultural beliefs. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2WwZtNx7M)

It is fine that he has these cultural beliefs, as misogynistic and intolerant as they are. He is entitled to them. However, it is wrong that nations like Canada legitimize these toxic Sharia courts and make them legal.



“The most radical political views tended to be expressed by relatively secular people, often equipped with higher education in the social sciences, while devout Muslims were sometimes the most articulate advocates for Canada and democracy.” According to the Ottawa based think tank, only a small minority of Muslim newcomers to Canada reject Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Iranian regime.

The survey, which was released Tuesday, found 62% wanted some form of Shariah law in Canada, 15% of them saying it should be mandatory for all Muslims.
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada



It is also wrong and disingenuous for Muslims to claim "minority" status. Muslims are 1.7 billion people in the world's population. They are the second biggest religious demographic in the entire world. These people aren't oppressed, other than the oppression they impose on themselves.

[BoutPractice]

If we have to be essentialist about Christianity and Islam (which may not be a great idea to begin with) then we may find that they are, in fact, compatible in one important regard.

Christianity and Islam share a key characteristic: they are monotheistic cults, with exclusive claims over reality.

There is a certain logic in monotheism, which leads to:

1) evangelization, until the faith controls the instruments of power

2) enforced conformity (you have to convert, or else)

3) conflict (conformity cannot be enforced forever since this is just not how life works. The faith comes into contact with competitors, which creates violence. This violence is usually far worse than the enforced conformity of step 2) )

4) secularism (after a certain point, the community become tired of all the violence, and some compromise is reached. Monotheism dilutes into de facto polytheism)

The history of Christianity shows you that the violence in Islam right now may also have something to do with monotheism.

And it shows you that it is possible for a monotheistic cult to accept that it is just one of several possible religions.

It's not just Western-centric or Christian-centric to think that any monotheism will eventually accept a form of secularism (unless it somehow manages to take over the entire world and enforce conformity forever).

There is an inherent logic in monotheism, which leads to violence, which in turn leads to something like secularism as a solution to that violence (if you want to call it something more in line with your own tradition, fine, but it'll still be a lot like secularism).

Christians just happen to have stumbled upon the only solution to a self-created problem. (This is where the postcolonial academics did real harm: Christian nations did find universal solutions to certain social problems... they just did it by accident, not because they were inherently superior)

Of course, that doesn't mean that radical Islamist claims aren't dangerous right now. But I would be very surprised if winner-take-all conflict consumed Islam forever...human beings cannot take this much violence for this long. At some point, they relent on their beliefs for the sake of peace.

[NumberSix]

Are Muslims allowed to eat eggs?

[NumberSix]

If we have to be essentialist about Christianity and Islam (which may not be a great idea to begin with) then we may find that they are, in fact, compatible in one important regard.

Christianity and Islam share a key characteristic: they are monotheistic cults, with exclusive claims over reality.

There is a certain logic in monotheism, which leads to:

1) evangelization, until the faith controls the instruments of power

2) enforced conformity (you have to convert, or else)

3) conflict (conformity cannot be enforced forever since this is just not how life works. The faith comes into contact with competitors, which creates violence. This violence is usually far worse than the enforced conformity of step 2) )

4) secularism (after a certain point, the community become tired of all the violence, and some compromise is reached. Monotheism dilutes into de facto polytheism)

The history of Christianity shows you that the violence in Islam right now may also have something to do with monotheism.

And it shows you that it is possible for a monotheistic cult to accept that it is just one of several possible religions.

It's not just Western-centric or Christian-centric to think that any monotheism will eventually accept a form of secularism (unless it somehow manages to take over the entire world and enforce conformity forever).

There is an inherent logic in monotheism, which leads to violence, which in turn leads to something like secularism as a solution to that violence (if you want to call it something more in line with your own tradition, fine, but it'll still be a lot like secularism).

Christians just happen to have stumbled upon the only solution to a self-created problem. (This is where the postcolonial academics did real harm: Christian nations did find universal solutions to certain social problems... they just did it by accident, not because they were inherently superior)

Of course, that doesn't mean that radical Islamist claims aren't dangerous right now. But I would be very surprised if winner-take-all conflict consumed Islam forever...human beings cannot take this much violence for this long. At some point, they relent on their beliefs for the sake of peace.
You've never read the Bible or the koran, have you?

Christianity specifically preaches for secular government and a separation between that which is governed by man and that which is governed by God. Islam preaches the exact opposite.

That being the case, you think it's a coincidence that Christian countries and Muslim countries are governed the way they are?

[warriorfan]

That moment when overweight white people with tiny hands start calling other people cucks

[9erempiree]

I would have less of a problem if Tier 2 Muslims would practice 'Jadid Islam' aka New Islam.

Make that 40% of Islam they are practicing as 100% and start a new Islam to combat true Islam.

A more modern interpretation would be good and allow women to freely wear whatever they want.

[sd3035]

There's a fat guy on a bodybuilding forum named JtotheIzzo who always complains about being a loser and girls not liking him :lol

[JtotheIzzo]

You completely misunderstand the term "cuck" which makes sense because it is modern day slang in the eyes of a babyboomer like yourself.

The term "cuck" has nothing to do with Islam. The term "cuck" describes the modern regressive liberal. Talking about "Islamophobia" (another new word the kids are using) is not intrinsically tied to being a cuck, though the two concepts often overlap.

Don't worry gramps, I'm going to educate you.

This is what sharia looks like. A woman gets publicly flogged for the crime of wearing trousers, and people in the crowd are laughing as she gets whipped. (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=18c_1472211578)

Now you know what sharia culture actually looks like, is this a culture you support coming to Canada?

If you are a true Muslim, there is no picking and choosing which elements of sharia law you support or don't. According to Islam, you either support Sharia law, or you aren't a real Muslim. You can't pick which parts of sharia you like and which you don't. You are either for it or you can't call yourself a Muslim, at least in the eyes of the majority of Muslims in the world.




The kid in this video isn't bad or evil, he's just being honest and talking about his cultural beliefs. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2WwZtNx7M)

It is fine that he has these cultural beliefs, as misogynistic and intolerant as they are. He is entitled to them. However, it is wrong that nations like Canada legitimize these toxic Sharia courts and make them legal.





It is also wrong and disingenuous for Muslims to claim "minority" status. Muslims are 1.7 billion people in the world's population. They are the second biggest religious demographic in the entire world. These people aren't oppressed, other than the oppression they impose on themselves.

:roll:

[JtotheIzzo]

There's a fat guy on a bodybuilding forum named JtotheIzzo who always complains about being a loser and girls not liking him :lol

try and keep up...

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=151723&page=5

or you will end up looking like this clown...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209513

and he is the biggest loser on here

[sd3035]

try and keep up...

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=151723&page=5

or you will end up looking like this clown...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209513

and he is the biggest loser on here


That guy stole your identity to smear you on various forums :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JtotheIzzo]

That guy stole your identity to smear you on various forums :roll: :roll: :roll:


I think he actually liked my username (as he states later in one of the linked threads). It doesn't come from a place of malice, it is more him being honest, those feelings and issues are his in real life and he owns them.

Not too bothered as ISH is the only forum I participate in, basically to talk hoops, and float theories (sometimes off) that pop in my head while I am at work or waiting for something to upload.

ISH's OTC used to be a pretty good place for floating theories that pop in your head (before really hashing them out) so you can have a more well rounded view of the reactions before you ever articulate them in the real world. Lately however the Trump-fandom and anti-Islamic stances have been key so my posts have centered around trying to better understand where these feelings come from.

Basically, from what I have learned here, Trump support is a mixture of the following:
-anti-Hillary
-hatred for the regressive left
-a general '**** it!!!!!' to the system
-anger towards a perceived loss of white influence in the US and a false belief that hispanics, Muslims and blacks are taking power

these four are powerful enough that support will never waiver.

I think the anti-Islamic stance is simpler. They are viewed as the enemy of civility and order and should be eradicated. I do not share this view but I believe it is one that can be articulated with detail.

[9erempiree]

Basically, from what I have learned here, Trump support is a mixture of the following:
-anti-Hillary
-hatred for the regressive left
-a general '**** it!!!!!' to the system
-anger towards a perceived loss of white influence in the US and a false belief that hispanics, Muslims and blacks are taking power


Good observation now can I know what you learned from Hillary supporters?

I frequent this place more than you do and I have yet to find out why they are supporting Hillary and they haven't given a reason as to why either.

[StephHamann]

I am JotheIzzo on the bodyduilding forum.

DAMN YOU ARE



























































A CUCK :lebronamazed:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

- 9 is correct in that hypocrisy and extremism are evils. He is incorrect about ISIS/Islamic. The following men learned in Islam disagree with 9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynUpak6eW0Y A Mufti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sixliGz9zhI A well-learned scholar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nUFR4KKGT4 The head Ayatollah.
Yet, you and the cab driver know better, yeah?

Let me ask you, 9, do you think J$ would have even "preached" Islam had he not seen a naughty little boy like yourself flood this board with trash, ignorance and uninformed idiotic statements taking ISH down to a Hellish place it hasn't sunk to in a decade?

And on the subject of Hell, could it be at possible that over the years I've grown fond of some personas here and actually want them to succeed in the Hereafter?

Nope, it must be the motive you have yeah? Well, if I think I'm holier than thou and that I'm a fake Muslim, rest assured, 9, here's the consequence.

Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper -[/QUOTE]

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If, Allah Forbid, any human being among us decides to express themselves insincerely in a way incongruent to their heart's truest convictions, then their final destination is the worst possible outcome.
Thus, life will be played in a way to
a) question ourselves on what we truly believe in
b) test us if we hold true to our deepest convictions.

Now all of ISH ought to take some time off basketball and their entertainment distractions and really really really really self-inquire as to what they truly hold as the core premises in which they conduct their life.

Conversely, if you're an honest, sincere person, and serious about forbidding evil, this is the prize, provided it's done concurrently with charity, fasting, prayer, good deeds, pilgrimage, a firm belief and love of God alone with no partners, faith, purity etc.
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Except the Hereafter is not like this world in the slightest bit. It surpasses the imagination in all delights. Pleasure never dissipates, it grows and grows.

On the subject of moderates/real/fakes:
http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2011/05/30/what-is-the-meaning-of-the-hadith-ruined-are-the-extremists/
Cliffs
- Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) stated "Those who go to extremes are doomed,"
- Finding the middle sweet spot in all of life's affairs and taking the narrow, straight road is the key.

The Prophet of Islam chose what was easiest for his community and spoke about having a balanced lifestyle. An example of someone dwelving off to the other end of spirituality would be a celibate meditating monk, an example of someone too immersed in this temporal world would be someone skipping their prayers and fasts while being emotionally attached to money.

Balance and moderation. We must all come to learn it for optimal happiness.


One character here doesn't loathe a foreign lifestyle to the chagrin of the fellas here and he's met with unpleasant feedback from the local gang. What does this remind one of? Good Will Hunting except BEN AFFLECK always wanted what was best for his brother.
Do the people of ISH sincerely want what's best for JtotheIzzo?

Did JtotheIzzo "betray" any of you guys?

Or did you betray your own souls?


Nick, 3/4 of women converts choose Islam. Punishment for breaching dresscode is not the definining trait of that life; rather it is the worship of God Alone and abiding by all His Laws. Something you are also, as a Jewish person, supposed to do, but you keep postponing it and now you're sinking into lower and lower and lower spiritual stations.

What's happening in Palestine, Syria, and Burma (and Libya, Kosovo, Iran before) is oppression irregardless of numbers. What's happening economically in America to the majority of the populace is oppression as well.
BritianFirst is not a credible source.



BoutPractice,
Let's keep it real simple.
1) Is it morally acceptable to live a life of lies based off of false premises i.e. fancies; lusts; egos?
b) What is the nature of reality? Who created reality?
2) Is there more than One God?
3) What responsibilities do we have towards The One God?
4) IF we forego those responsibilities, what are the consequences?
5) If peace is one of those (positive) consequences , then would it be worth it if it meant for debasing oneself morally into idolatrous practices, a sure-fire way to end up in Hell?

Rewrite your post with this structure. We don't need a sociological breakdown. FYI, CHristians and Muslims have lived in harmony before.

[highwhey]

Jeff tweets to Trump bro.

He recently did. I will find it.
This idiot finally got banned. What for this time?

[JtotheIzzo]

Good observation now can I know what you learned from Hillary supporters?

I frequent this place more than you do and I have yet to find out why they are supporting Hillary and they haven't given a reason as to why either.

This one is trickier because Hillary is the most vanilla favorite that we've ever seen, if she was against a Rubio or a Paul Ryan or even a Jeb she would lose (which is why I still feel Trump will win, despite his best efforts lately to prove me wrong).

Hillary supporters are:
-DNC homers
-pyjama boys, and cucks who hate Trump
and (what she needs if she is going to win) common sense people who care about the future of the West.

It doesn't look good, only Trump's bnumbling and stumbling is keeping her on top.

[Nick Young]

This one is trickier because Hillary is the most vanilla favorite that we've ever seen, if she was against a Rubio or a Paul Ryan or even a Jeb she would lose (which is why I still feel Trump will win, despite his best efforts lately to prove me wrong).

Hillary supporters are:
-DNC homers
-pyjama boys, and cucks who hate Trump
and (what she needs if she is going to win) common sense people who care about the future of the West.

It doesn't look good, only Trump's bnumbling and stumbling is keeping her on top.
:roll: :roll: :roll:


Hillary Clinton Turned a Stable, Developed Nation Into an ISIS Safe Haven. That’s the Real Benghazi Scandal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-turned-nation-into-isis-safe-haven_b_9571956.html)

If you actually cared about Muslims and weren't just virtue signalling as an out of touch attempt to gain cool guy points, you would be aware that Hillary is the worst thing for the people in the Muslim world and has a long and proud history of warmongering and toppling peaceful regimes in the Middle East, North Africa and Central and South America.
:hammerhead:

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=Nick Young]:roll: :roll: :roll:


[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-turned-nation-into-isis-safe-haven_b_9571956.html"]Hillary Clinton Turned a Stable, Developed Nation Into an ISIS Safe Haven. That

[JtotheIzzo]

[QUOTE=Nick Young]:roll: :roll: :roll:


[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-turned-nation-into-isis-safe-haven_b_9571956.html"]Hillary Clinton Turned a Stable, Developed Nation Into an ISIS Safe Haven. That

[Nick Young]

Your strawmanning of me knows no bounds, whatever fits the latest link.

Hillary and Benghazi? Had no idea, what was that all about? never heard it.
You have a lot to learn about the world, gramps. That's why I'm educating you :cheers:

[starface]

There's a fat guy on a bodybuilding forum named JtotheIzzo who always complains about being a loser and girls not liking him :lol

:lol

[Coach Karlis]

I m not Islamophobe! I m Christian , and in my life i found that Jeasus is the only God . There is lot of evil things that Islam people done to people . For me that is another proof that i am on the right way!

[Proctor]

I m not Islamophobe! I m Christian , and in my life i found that Jeasus is the only God . There is lot of evil things that Islam people done to people . For me that is another proof that i am on the right way!
Hey I'm Still Ballin

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I m not Islamophobe! I m Christian , and in my life i found that Jeasus is the only God . There is lot of evil things that Islam people done to people . For me that is another proof that i am on the right way!

Jesus never claimed to be God.

Islam is about submitting to the will of God.
Jesus was a Muslim.
Jesus prayed fasted and did charity like a Muslim.
Jesus sought the Akhirah.
Jesus prayed to God.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[AirBonner]

Jesus never claimed to be God.

Islam is about submitting to the will of God.
Jesus was a Muslim.
Jesus prayed fasted and did charity like a Muslim.
Jesus sought the Akhirah.
Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus doesn’t get unhinged like a Muslim. He’s seems more Hindu in that aspect

[coin24]

Jesus never claimed to be God.

Islam is about submitting to the will of God.
Jesus was a Muslim.
Jesus prayed fasted and did charity like a Muslim.
Jesus sought the Akhirah.
Jesus prayed to God.


But selling your 10 year old daughter to a 50 year old grub and beheading people is fine right?
No wonder they need the lowest iq’s to believe in that, and I bet you can guess how they achieve that jeffy:lol

[FultzNationRISE]

OP unhinged

[n00bie]

This is what one would deduct from reading these pages.


I am curious though about all the hard anti-Islamic posts on here.

Do any of you know Muslims or deal with them in your day to day?

If so do you take this hard line against them or do you cuck in their presence?

I've worked with muslims and got along with them. I have friends that are muslims and they seem fine. They never once pushed their religion onto me.. unlike some Christians I've met.

Does that mean I'm a fan of Islam? Nope. Would I want my kids to marry into an Islamic family? Nope. But I also wouldnt want my kids to marry into ANY heavy religious family.

All religions are fked up.

[tomtucker]

This is what one would deduct from reading these pages.


I am curious though about all the hard anti-Islamic posts on here.

Do any of you know Muslims or deal with them in your day to day?

If so do you take this hard line against them or do you cuck in their presence?

yes, and you can't trust them. they are allowed to lie to non muslims.

never trust any of them

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

yes, and you can't trust them. they are allowed to lie to non muslims.

never trust any of them

You can propagandize, misrepresent, demonize or do whatever but at the end of the day you are responsible for what your hands earn.

That's a concept called Taqiyyah (holy deception), and that's a Shia concept. Shias are not recognized as Muslims by the mainstream orthodox adherents to Sunni Islam.

Truthfulness, trustworthiness, speaking the truth are among the meritorious virtues of Muslims and speaking lies or falsehood are sins. Period.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I've worked with muslims and got along with them. I have friends that are muslims and they seem fine. They never once pushed their religion onto me.. unlike some Christians I've met.

Does that mean I'm a fan of Islam? Nope. Would I want my kids to marry into an Islamic family? Nope. But I also wouldnt want my kids to marry into ANY heavy religious family.

All religions are fked up.

That's the most obnoxiously ignorant, arrogant, self-centered thing I've read in weeks.

You couldn't even have the courtesy to add "in my humble opinion" before spouting out the utter trash you did in your last sentence. You don't even have the knowledge (or even close to the knowledge) necessary to make that judgment of all religions. Your brain has been pissed and defecated on by the Devil and you can't even think straight. The notion that you living the life you lead is any less "f**** up" than a religion is complete and utter delusion. Religions address the needs of the soul and high morals.

You wouldn't want your kids to marry into a heavy religious family? What if that would be the best thing for their future?

Do your or your kids even have any grasp of the high morals, justice, or sublime values that the religion "you are not a fan of" teaches?

And if you have children, how the heck could you possibly even love them properly if you don't love yourself enough to care about finding out the answers to what happens after death? Like seriously, if you shed tears when others suffer or get hurt (which I assume you do) don't you realize that you, being a major part of their upbringing are opting out to destroy their minds and hearts by choosing to neglect their spiritual needs? At least, at the VERY LEAST, teach them, without any bias about the basics of faiths and do not throw atheistic/agnostic/secular humanist/materialistic brainwashing upon them. Modern society has plenty of that all around.

PS: I won't even bring up the "I" word anymore because beautiful, sacred, pristine things should not be discussed in a cesspool of filth like these abominable forums.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Jesus doesn’t get unhinged like a Muslim. He’s seems more Hindu in that aspect

Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

John 2:15 15 "And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables."

[tpols]

Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

John 2:15 15 "And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables."

I think the key point to gather is none of these guys' theories are strictly legit. Everybody should just strive to be a good, kind person. And from there, your spirit will be kind after death. It's very hard though... because there's so much tension and competition in the world. We're basically wired to fight.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

But selling your 10 year old daughter to a 50 year old grub and beheading people is fine right?
No wonder they need the lowest iq’s to believe in that, and I bet you can guess how they achieve that jeffy:lol

I urge you to take back what you just wrote, investigate deeply into the matter, and exercise caution in the future.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

But selling

The purpose of a "mahr" is a financial safety event in the event that something goes wrong, such as divorce or a husband's death.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the value of a woman.
And the woman you are talking about has value that is incomprehensibly great, as she is beloved to God.
She lived in extreme poverty and demonstrated piety, generosity, modesty, chastity and other virtues at a level that would
put nuns to shame.



your 10 year old daughter to a 50 year old grub and beheading people is fine right?

Cashew, you do realize that the person you just insulted is considered the best person that ever walked this earth to billions of people, yeah?
You also do realize that the father of the daughter is the best friend of the man you insulted. And that he betrothed her to him.



No wonder they need the lowest iq’s to believe in that, and I bet you can guess how they achieve that jeffy:lol

While people of your ilk think these silly westernized tests accentuating reading, writing, and math are the end-all and be-all of intelligence----intelligence can be more accurately measured by someone preparing for death, abstaining from destructive actions, and reflecting upon the creation around them to come to realize who made them and why they are on this Earth.



I urge you, cashew, right here, right now, to learn to respect that which is sacred as soon as you can. Death is coming towards us each and every day. We have to change before it's too late. We have to make things right.

[brownmamba00]

Jef why do you post on this forum? You don't talk bball and you don't seem interested in other sports.

This isn't the place to talk islam and explain the sunnah. You're responding to a person that eats c.um filled biscuits and gets bullied on the internet by teenagers. Who cares what he thinks?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Jef why do you post on this forum? You don't talk bball and you don't seem interested in other sports.

This isn't the place to talk islam and explain the sunnah. You're responding to a person that eats c.um filled biscuits and gets bullied on the internet by teenagers. Who cares what he thinks?

You're right. Pray for me. Utter jahilliyah on my behalf.

[brownmamba00]

You're right. Pray for me. Utter jahilliyah on my behalf.

MashAllah you're a smart brother with good intentions. Don't waste your time.

They're not here to have a real discussion. They want to be popular and edgy. They get excitement out of it because they get depressed and belittled in their own day to day lives.

"The servants of the most merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them they say [words of] peace"

[FKAri]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

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[Axe]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:
:yaohappy:

[highwhey]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:

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[Proctor]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:

:roll::roll:

[scuzzy]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:
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[ItsMillerTime]

Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:

Lmfao

[imdaman99]

You can propagandize, misrepresent, demonize or do whatever but at the end of the day you are responsible for what your hands earn.

That's a concept called Taqiyyah (holy deception), and that's a Shia concept. Shias are not recognized as Muslims by the mainstream orthodox adherents to Sunni Islam.

Truthfulness, trustworthiness, speaking the truth are among the meritorious virtues of Muslims and speaking lies or falsehood are sins. Period.

Brother JMoney, I think it's dangerous for us as Muslim brothers to question another sect as not being muslims. I personally believe that Sunnis and Shias are both followers of our religion.


Even ISH's resident monk refers to coin24 as 'cashew'

:roll::roll::roll:

:roll: :roll:

[FKAri]

Cashew, you do realize that...

I urge you, cashew...

Let us all pray for Brother Cashew to find the light. Amen.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Brother JMoney, I think it's dangerous for us as Muslim brothers to question another sect as not being muslims. I personally believe that Sunnis and Shias are both followers of our religion.

Appreciate the warning. I'll heed it in future. You're right it's bad to be hasty in pronouncing others as kuffar.

With that said...
Please have a read:
http://themajlis.co.za/books/WHO%20ARE%20THE%20SHIAH.pdf
https://www.raza.org.za/deviant_sects_and_scholars_beliefs_of_the_shias.ht ml

[coin24]

The level of loser it takes to have this many alts is just sad..

I urge you to log off and get someone to wheel you outside

[coin24]

Jef why do you post on this forum? You don't talk bball and you don't seem interested in other sports.

This isn't the place to talk islam and explain the sunnah. You're responding to a person that eats c.um filled biscuits and gets bullied on the internet by teenagers. Who cares what he thinks?


Me joking about soggy sao really burned into your tiny brain didn’t it:lol
Following me around on a leash ever since:roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

Yikes

[hateraid]

Yikes

Are you bumping because you are Jtotheizzo or because you really despise him?

[FultzNationRISE]

Are you bumping because you are Jtotheizzo or because you really despise him?



both


@Proctor