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alenleomessi
08-29-2016, 03:38 PM
at 83.. damn one of the greats.. loved his comedies with richard pryor.. RIP

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.12239180.1472498829!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.jpg

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/7b74e7c1-4822-461e-8398-ef2711328ffe/9d7f6923-1db0-4475-922f-eb3d526cb693.jpg

gigantes
08-29-2016, 03:46 PM
aw... sad day. i need to rewatch those pryor comedies.

gene wilder was utterly, impossibly, ridiculously brilliant as young doc frankenstein and willy wonka.



http://www.siff.net/assets/Images/CINEMA/2014/2014_CINE_Jan-Mar/YoungFrankenstein_440X300.jpg



https://kelleepratt.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/young-frankenstein.jpg

Long Duck Dong
08-29-2016, 04:03 PM
Looks like Gene and Gilda are finally reunited :cheers:

Thorpesaurous
08-29-2016, 04:07 PM
Young Frankenstein is on my short list for favorite comedies.

Dark day.

Jasper
08-29-2016, 04:14 PM
RIP funny man.

gigantes
08-29-2016, 04:19 PM
Young Frankenstein is on my short list for favorite comedies.
i don't know if you noticed, but there's a collection of deleted scenes on youtube... probably just uploaded from a special DVD release.

they're not amazing or anything, but are still interesting in showing how the movie evolved to its final form.

~primetime~
08-29-2016, 04:37 PM
I'm a pretty big fan...RIP


83 not bad though :applause:

Funktion
08-29-2016, 04:39 PM
Aww man. Dude was awesome. Stir Crazy, and my fav Blazing Saddles. RIP


https://youtu.be/493pL_Vbtnc


https://youtu.be/qVhCNgct9JQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9xVmCL0bA&app=desktop

DonDadda59
08-29-2016, 04:40 PM
Him and Pryor together was a hell of a dynamic duo. RIP.

gigantes
08-29-2016, 04:47 PM
interesting info on blazing saddles:
[quote=WP]Casting was problematic: Richard Pryor was Brooks' original choice to play the sheriff, but the studio, claiming his history of drug arrests made him uninsurable, refused to approve financing with Pryor as the star.[8] Cleavon Little was cast in the role, and Pryor remained as a writer. Brooks offered the other leading role, the Waco Kid, to John Wayne; he declined, deeming the film "too blue" for his family-oriented image, but assured Brooks that "he would be the first one in line to see it".[10] Gig Young was cast, but he collapsed during his first scene from what was later determined to be alcohol withdrawal syndrome, and Gene Wilder was flown in to replace him.[11][12] Johnny Carson and Wilder both turned down the Hedley Lamarr role before Harvey Korman was cast.[13] Madeline Kahn objected when Brooks asked to see her legs during her audition. "She said, 'So it

bdreason
08-29-2016, 04:49 PM
Comedic genius. RIP.

FillJackson
08-29-2016, 04:49 PM
One of my favorites.


Him and Pryor together was a hell of a dynamic duo. RIP.
Richard Pryor helped write Blazing Saddles.

Nobody mentioned The Producers?

I'm hysterical!
http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/100000003396057/the-producers-scene-im-in-pain-and-im-wet.html

Gene Wilder was a writer too, Young Frankenstein was his idea and he and Brooks were nominated for the screenplay too. He also directed, but less successfully.

Thorpesaurous
08-30-2016, 08:44 AM
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by WP

Casting was problematic: Richard Pryor was Brooks' original choice to play the sheriff, but the studio, claiming his history of drug arrests made him uninsurable, refused to approve financing with Pryor as the star.[8] Cleavon Little was cast in the role, and Pryor remained as a writer. Brooks offered the other leading role, the Waco Kid, to John Wayne; he declined, deeming the film "too blue" for his family-oriented image, but assured Brooks that "he would be the first one in line to see it".[10] Gig Young was cast, but he collapsed during his first scene from what was later determined to be alcohol withdrawal syndrome, and Gene Wilder was flown in to replace him.[11][12] Johnny Carson and Wilder both turned down the Hedley Lamarr role before Harvey Korman was cast.[13] Madeline Kahn objected when Brooks asked to see her legs during her audition. "She said, 'So it

pauk
08-30-2016, 09:59 AM
Noooo! Loved the guy, i think he was a comedic genius, his style/character was so unintentionally hilarious with his dry/serious attitude kindof yet with his contemplation, delivery, expression, character just made it all side-splitting lol... kindof like it is with Steven Wright you know, very unique... he fit so well with Pryor and especially Mel Brooks movies. Huge fan, saw it all. RIP! :cry:

Steven Kerry
08-31-2016, 11:53 AM
Dude was hilarious. RIP.

Lebron23
08-31-2016, 12:10 PM
RIP Sir.

L.Kizzle
08-31-2016, 12:44 PM
RIP. Great talent.

Siemens
08-31-2016, 03:23 PM
RIP

fsvr54
08-31-2016, 08:27 PM
One of the greats.

gigantes
09-17-2016, 03:53 AM
i remember reading this once before but had totally forgotten about it until now... seems that adolf hitler of all people had a sizable effect on the original willy wonka film:


...

[indent]Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is largely considered to be a movie classic; a cautionary tale about ill-mannered children, among other things. While the story occasionally dips into darker territory, such as the harsh punishments for the childrens' infractions, mostly the sweetness of Charlie's relationship with his grandfather and the happy ending keep the overall picture light.


http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/990/75/75990/1411437782-0.jpg

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is largely considered to be a movie classic; a cautionary tale about ill-mannered children, among other things. While the story occasionally dips into darker territory, such as the harsh punishments for the childrens' infractions, mostly the sweetness of Charlie's relationship with his grandfather and the happy ending keep the overall picture light.

Yet amazingly, the principals in one of the darkest chapters in history

FashionablyLate
09-30-2016, 10:03 AM
RIP to the comedic legend.

Long Duck Dong
09-30-2016, 10:44 AM
i remember reading this once before but had totally forgotten about it until now... seems that adolf hitler of all people had a sizable effect on the original willy wonka film:


...


Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is largely considered to be a movie classic; a cautionary tale about ill-mannered children, among other things. While the story occasionally dips into darker territory, such as the harsh punishments for the childrens' infractions, mostly the sweetness of Charlie's relationship with his grandfather and the happy ending keep the overall picture light.


http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/990/75/75990/1411437782-0.jpg

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is largely considered to be a movie classic; a cautionary tale about ill-mannered children, among other things. While the story occasionally dips into darker territory, such as the harsh punishments for the childrens' infractions, mostly the sweetness of Charlie's relationship with his grandfather and the happy ending keep the overall picture light.

Yet amazingly, the principals in one of the darkest chapters in history— Hitler and the Nazi party — affected not only the casting of the film, but supplied one minor cast member.

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was shot in Munich, Germany in 1970, almost 25 years after the fall of the Nazis. The producers and director wanted to cast dwarves as the Oompa Loompas, but they soon learned that their plan would be problematic. There were few dwarves left in Germany due to Hitler's wartime policy of murdering people born with birth defects which, according to his demented mind, meant all manner of people, including dwarves. There were so few dwarves to be found locally that when it came time to cast the film, the casting director was forced to search all across Europe. Many of the little people eventually hired were not professional actors and therefore could not dance or sing. In fact, even in the final cut of the film, some of the Oompa Loompas appear not to be singing or not to know the words of the songs. This was because a number of them couldn't speak English.


http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/990/75/75990/1411437991-0.jpg

More bizarre is the announcement in the film, via a television news report, that the last golden ticket has been located by a South American businessman (later to be revealed as a forgery). The photo that the news anchor holds up, supposedly of the businessman with the golden ticket, is of Hitler's real life personal secretary, Martin Boorman. Boorman was a top Nazi official, said to accompany Hitler everywhere he went.

http://www.neatorama.com/2014/09/23/Unsettling-Stories-About-Popular-Movies/


Also one of the main reasons the movie was changed to Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory from the book's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was because blacks, well I think they preferred "coloreds" back then, found the term "Charlie", combined with "chocolate", offensive. I guess it was some type of slur towards blacks (and Asians during the Vietnam War). Ironically, they had no problems putting the oompa loompa slaves in blackface. :oldlol:

Annyong!
09-30-2016, 10:58 AM
Also one of the main reasons the movie was changed to Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory from the book's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was because blacks, well I think they preferred "coloreds" back then, found the term "Charlie", combined with "chocolate", offensive. I guess it was some type of slur towards blacks (and Asians during the Vietnam War). Ironically, they had no problems putting the oompa loompa slaves in blackface. :oldlol:
I believe they were in Trumpface.

gigantes
09-30-2016, 11:04 AM
Also one of the main reasons the movie was changed to Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory from the book's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was because blacks, well I think they preferred "coloreds" back then, found the term "Charlie", combined with "chocolate", offensive. I guess it was some type of slur towards blacks (and Asians during the Vietnam War). Ironically, they had no problems putting the oompa loompa slaves in blackface. :oldlol:
you sure about that?

"charlie" in terms of korea and vietnam referred to enemy asian combatants.

that's very little to do with the way we've use "colored" the last 50+ years in the USA.

Long Duck Dong
09-30-2016, 11:46 AM
you sure about that?

"charlie" in terms of korea and vietnam referred to enemy asian combatants.

that's very little to do with the way we've use "colored" the last 50+ years in the USA.



Not really. I wasn't around back then, or heard the term used in a derogatory nature to non-Asians. But according to this link it says that was possibly one of the reasons.

"The second story is that filmmakers were worried that the name 'Charlie' was seen in certain areas as a derogatory racial term for African-Americans, and it was easier to rename the film."

http://moviepilot.com/p/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-facts/2491839

Annyong!
09-30-2016, 11:51 AM
Not really. I wasn't around back then, or heard the term used in a derogatory nature to non-Asians. But according to this link it says that was possibly one of the reasons.

"The second story is that filmmakers were worried that the name 'Charlie' was seen in certain areas as a derogatory racial term for African-Americans, and it was easier to rename the film."

http://moviepilot.com/p/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-facts/2491839
Could it relate to the definition here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

Which states " (African American, 1960s-1970s) white people as a reified collective oppressor group, similar to The Man or The System"

It seems like it was an anti-white term used by black people. Maybe they didn't want backlash from the whites if this were the case.