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TommyGriffin
08-31-2016, 07:25 PM
Hey everyone. TG here. Earlier today I was thinking of the worst Finals performances of all time and I couldn't really think of one worse than LeBron in 2011. Which ones are worse?

Nilocon165
08-31-2016, 07:29 PM
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LAZERUSS
08-31-2016, 07:29 PM
Hey everyone. TG here. Earlier today I was thinking of the worst Finals performances of all time and I couldn't really think of one worse than LeBron in 2011. Which ones are worse?

ChoKurry's '16 Finals have to be right there.

SilkkTheShocker
08-31-2016, 07:32 PM
16 Curry, easily. People actually got trampled to death trying to jump off his bandwagon.

TommyGriffin
08-31-2016, 07:33 PM
I was thinking about 2016 Curry but Curry at least lead his team in scoring and was also coming off a knee injury. LeBron got outscored by Jason Terry...

Akrazotile
08-31-2016, 07:35 PM
Mods. Do your jobs, please.

TommyGriffin
08-31-2016, 07:38 PM
Mods. Do your jobs, please.
This is not a safe space. We have to talk about tough issues. It's hard for me too. I'm not only a Pelicans fan but a Cavalier fan as well.

Fudge
08-31-2016, 07:40 PM
Kobe in '04 and Curry in '16 are just as worse, if not worse.

TheWinningFam
08-31-2016, 07:47 PM
Lebron actually put up historic numbers for a 3rd option in 2011

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 07:56 PM
They probably are the WOAT Finals, but Curry's Finals this year were certainly close, especially his humiliating 4th quarter performance in Game 7

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 07:58 PM
The difference is in 2011, Wade was the one that failed in the clutch (Game 4, Game 5, Game 6), while Curry was the one who failed in 2016

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 08:00 PM
The difference is in 2011, Wade was the one that failed in the clutch (Game 4, Game 5, Game 6), while Curry was the one who failed in 2016

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 08:00 PM
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

How would you describe Wade's clutch play in Game 4, Game 5, Game 6?

FKAri
08-31-2016, 08:05 PM
Lebron performed poorly. But Curry choked. The difference is how steep the dropoff is in high pressure situations. Curry "post injury" had some monster games vs OKC and the Blazers. But in those last few finals games he was clearly shook. The behind the back pass out of bounds and the wide open 3 miss had nothing to do with his knee.

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 08:07 PM
Lebron performed poorly. But Curry choked. The difference is how steep the dropoff is in high pressure situations. Curry "post injury" had some monster games vs OKC and the Blazers. But in those last few finals games he was clearly shook. The behind the back pass out of bounds and the wide open 3 miss had nothing to do with his knee.

You don't think LeBron was just as shook in 2011? Dude was an assassin against the Celtics & Bulls earlier in the playoffs, annihilating both of them in the clutch. Then dude scores 6 points total in the 4th quarter in Games 2-5 of the Finals, including a fuccing EIGHT point game :lol

TommyGriffin
08-31-2016, 08:10 PM
Lebron performed poorly. But Curry choked. The difference is how steep the dropoff is in high pressure situations. Curry "post injury" had some monster games vs OKC and the Blazers. But in those last few finals games he was clearly shook. The behind the back pass out of bounds and the wide open 3 miss had nothing to do with his knee.
This doesn't make any sense at all. :facepalm

red1
08-31-2016, 08:19 PM
The difference is in 2011, Wade was the one that failed in the clutch (Game 4, Game 5, Game 6), while Curry was the one who failed in 2016
What?

http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-31-2015/FNIAFQ.gif

This just summarizes the whole series. Bron knows the camera is on him and is so out of it mentally that he can't even show his face. Wade was trying to bring it home but LBJ just wasn't ready.

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 08:22 PM
What?


This just summarizes the whole series. Bron knows the camera is on him and is so out of it mentally that he can't even show his face. Wade was trying to bring it home but LBJ just wasn't ready.


Watch this till the end

https://youtu.be/35-IkoFuHVg?t=230


Threw away the series in that last minute

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 08:24 PM
Watch this

https://youtu.be/35-IkoFuHVg?t=230


Threw away the series in that last minute

That was from this game right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 08:26 PM
That was from this game right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4

LeBron redeemed himself by showing up in Game 6


Meanwhile, Wade was nowhere to be found from the last minute of Game 4, till the end of the series :confusedshrug:

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 08:28 PM
LeBron redeemed himself by showing up in Game 6


Meanwhile, Wade was nowhere to be found from the last minute of Game 4, till the end of the series :confusedshrug:

Redeemed himself by posting a whopping 21/4/6 with 6 turnovers?

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 08:31 PM
Redeemed himself by posting a whopping 21/4/6 with 6 turnovers?


21 points on 60% shooting >> Wades 17 points on 37% shooting in Game 6



Are you arguing that Wade had a better Game 6? :oldlol:

FKAri
08-31-2016, 08:33 PM
You don't think LeBron was just as shook in 2011? Dude was an assassin against the Celtics & Bulls earlier in the playoffs, annihilating both of them in the clutch. Then dude scores 6 points total in the 4th quarter in Games 2-5 of the Finals, including a fuccing EIGHT point game :lol
Good points. You're right. I was thinking more along the lines of Lebron was playing terrible that whole series anyway.

SouBeachTalents
08-31-2016, 08:33 PM
21 points on 60% shooting >> Wades 17 points on 37% shooting in Game 6



Are you arguing that Wade had a better Game 6? :oldlol:

No, Wade played poorly in Game 6, but LeBron had FAR from a great game, it was pretty bleh for his standards.

Are you arguing LeBron had a better Finals than Wade?

Dray n Klay
08-31-2016, 08:43 PM
No, Wade played poorly in Game 6, but LeBron had FAR from a great game, it was pretty bleh for his standards.

Are you arguing LeBron had a better Finals than Wade?

You could argue he did




Think about it, what were their roles?


LeBron: score the first 3 quarters, rebound, assist, and be a facilitator in the 4th


Wade: Be the clutch scorer/closer in the series







So if you define the Finals by their respective roles LeBron did his role better than Wade did.



You can't say LeBron didn't do a good job in terms of scoring in the first 3 quarters, rebounding, assisting etc doing his duty as a point-forward playmaker



BUT you can clearly see that Wade failed at his job as a closer, evident by the video I posted in Game 4, his Game 5 disappearance, and horrid Game 6 clutch performances.



So in terms of fulfilling their duties, LeBron > Wade in 2011

guy
09-01-2016, 06:46 PM
You could argue he did




Think about it, what were their roles?


LeBron: score the first 3 quarters, rebound, assist, and be a facilitator in the 4th


Wade: Be the clutch scorer/closer in the series







So if you define the Finals by their respective roles LeBron did his role better than Wade did.



You can't say LeBron didn't do a good job in terms of scoring in the first 3 quarters, rebounding, assisting etc doing his duty as a point-forward playmaker



BUT you can clearly see that Wade failed at his job as a closer, evident by the video I posted in Game 4, his Game 5 disappearance, and horrid Game 6 clutch performances.



So in terms of fulfilling their duties, LeBron > Wade in 2011

Right, its cause of their roles. It makes complete sense for Miami to drastically change Lebron's role from what it was through the entire regular season and first 3 rounds of the playoffs. That makes more sense then Lebron simply just choking like a bitch.

ClipperRevival
09-01-2016, 07:16 PM
It was a disgrace. I've never seen a GOAT level player shy away from the moment like him. Some guys try but fail but LeBron in the 2011 finals wanted nothing to do with the outcome. He left so much on the table. Fortunately for him, he redeemed himself later but I was honestly shocked at how much he didn't want nothing to do with the outcome, straight deferring time and time again, playing hot potato. It's without a doubt a stain on his legacy.

If he comes out motivated, Heat win and he has a 3 peat on his resume and 4 titles. But it is what it is.

JebronLames
09-01-2016, 07:16 PM
You don't think LeBron was just as shook in 2011? Dude was an assassin against the Celtics & Bulls earlier in the playoffs, annihilating both of them in the clutch. Then dude scores 6 points total in the 4th quarter in Games 2-5 of the Finals, including a fuccing EIGHT point game :lol
He wasn't shook. LeBron and wade are best friends, and they both wanted to be the man. This lead to a mini feud between the two and LeBron felt that he had to take a step back since he joined wade's team. That's what he did and wade couldn't get it done.

If wade took a step back, LeBron would have played much better and the heat would have won. Check out 2012 and 2013. Wade's selfishness costed them. It's crazy how wade never gets blame for anything.

ClipperRevival
09-01-2016, 07:22 PM
He wasn't shook. LeBron and wade are best friends, and they both wanted to be the man. This lead to a mini feud between the two and LeBron felt that he had to take a step back since he joined wade's team. That's what he did and wade couldn't get it done.

If wade took a step back, LeBron would have played much better and the heat would have won. Check out 2012 and 2013. Wade's selfishness costed them. It's crazy how wade never gets blame for anything.

This is why many class LeBron fans in the same boat with Wilt fans. You guys keep making pathetic excuses for their failures. Your 2nd paragragh is pathetic.

LostCause
09-01-2016, 07:22 PM
You could argue he did




Think about it, what were their roles?


LeBron: score the first 3 quarters, rebound, assist, and be a facilitator in the 4th


Wade: Be the clutch scorer/closer in the series







So if you define the Finals by their respective roles LeBron did his role better than Wade did.



You can't say LeBron didn't do a good job in terms of scoring in the first 3 quarters, rebounding, assisting etc doing his duty as a point-forward playmaker



BUT you can clearly see that Wade failed at his job as a closer, evident by the video I posted in Game 4, his Game 5 disappearance, and horrid Game 6 clutch performances.



So in terms of fulfilling their duties, LeBron > Wade in 2011

This post was deserving of a ban. Not even surprised

GrapeApe
09-01-2016, 07:56 PM
He wasn't shook. LeBron and wade are best friends, and they both wanted to be the man. This lead to a mini feud between the two and LeBron felt that he had to take a step back since he joined wade's team. That's what he did and wade couldn't get it done.

If wade took a step back, LeBron would have played much better and the heat would have won. Check out 2012 and 2013. Wade's selfishness costed them. It's crazy how wade never gets blame for anything.

That is so ridiculous I don't even know where to begin. Let's start with the Boston series. Wade didn't "take a step back", and Lebron still played great. Wade was the best player in the series but Lebron was still Lebron. That alone shows how off base your statement is.

It goes beyond that series though. Wade and Lebron both played great for the majority of the season. There were numerous games where they each scored 30+ points. There were numerous games where Wade was the best player on the court and Lebron was outstanding as well. Not only that, but Wade's production in the finals was nearly identical to his production throughout the season. He played the exact same way in the finals as he did all year. Lebron did not. There was no role changes, no changes in the pecking order, and everything was the same as it was all season. Except Lebron. It's that simple.

PP34Deuce
09-02-2016, 10:22 AM
2011 Bron just looked confused. He looked nervous, and he looked like he didn't know how to assert himself over Wade.

It was Wade's team and Lebron tried to be just one of the guys. The big turning point with MIA was when Wade basically handed him the team and he said "You're the better player right now, we need you" After that, Lebron asserted him in 2012 on and became stronger mentally.

Curry in 2016, ran out of gas. Physically wore down and mentally drained. I told my friends he and Klay were on video game level in the regular season and anything that's amazing must come down. Just like when you saw Bron struggle with his jumpshot for all of Toronto and 4 games with Golden State. The jumper came back on for 2.5 games and they were able to win it all.

Nastradamus
09-02-2016, 10:31 AM
16 Curry, easily. People actually got trampled to death trying to jump off his bandwagon.

Lol, no

Trollsmasher
09-02-2016, 11:27 AM
LeBron was a designated 3rd option in that series, as per pre-season agreement with Wade and Bosh who were his seniors.

He performed the 3rd option role at the GOAT level, proving his intangibles and portability.

Wade and Bosh couldn't capitalize on that. Wade especially put up on of the weakest 1st option performances of all time.

K Xerxes
09-02-2016, 11:37 AM
LeBron was a designated 3rd option in that series, as per pre-season agreement with Wade and Bosh who were his seniors.

He performed the 3rd option role at the GOAT level, proving his intangibles and portability.

Wade and Bosh couldn't capitalize on that. Wade especially put up on of the weakest 1st option performances of all time.

:coleman:

This contrived argument you Bron stans have somehow managed to come up with recently is bizzare. Are you suggesting a GOAT level player slap bang in the middle of his peak years settled for being a third option in the NBA finals to players who are clearly inferior to him? :facepalm

Dragonyeuw
09-02-2016, 12:18 PM
LeBron was a designated 3rd option in that series, as per pre-season agreement with Wade and Bosh who were his seniors.

He performed the 3rd option role at the GOAT level, proving his intangibles and portability.

Wade and Bosh couldn't capitalize on that. Wade especially put up on of the weakest 1st option performances of all time.

Ban-worthy level of stupidity. This is really getting ridiculous.

And even humoring this retardation, even using this argument it still wasn't GOAT worthy 3rd option play. Check out James Worthy on those 80's Lakers squads, or Robert Parish just off the top of my head. Much better 'third' wheels on their title teams that what Lebron did in the 2011 finals. Fcuking Horace Grant was a better third option in terms of fulfilling his role on those Bulls teams.

Dragonyeuw
09-02-2016, 12:19 PM
:coleman:

This contrived argument you Bron stans have somehow managed to come up with recently is bizzare. Are you suggesting a GOAT level player slap bang in the middle of his peak years settled for being a third option in the NBA finals to players who are clearly inferior to him? :facepalm

And because they were his 'seniors'. Don't waste your energy, clearly the result of inbreeding.

Mr Feeny
09-02-2016, 02:37 PM
LeBron was a designated 3rd option in that series, as per pre-season agreement with Wade and Bosh who were his seniors.

He performed the 3rd option role at the GOAT level, proving his intangibles and portability.

Wade and Bosh couldn't capitalize on that. Wade especially put up on of the weakest 1st option performances of all time.

No he just had on off-series. It happens. He still bad 17, 8, 7 on 47%fg and managed to get 2 wins against the team that swept the defending champions and heavily favored team -the Lakers.

eliteballer
09-09-2021, 09:10 PM
I considered 2007 but...this is Peak LeRoid on a Super Team.

ELITEpower23
09-09-2021, 10:27 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/t7QZ4YCM/2016-Deep-Pain.png

bigc365
09-10-2021, 01:27 AM
Labron been putting in work for a long time hate him or love him but you gotta show respect i was just looing at some of his highlight reels.
https://7r6.com/OXAcwV

outofstomach
09-10-2021, 06:25 AM
LeBron was a designated 3rd option in that series, as per pre-season agreement with Wade and Bosh who were his seniors.

He performed the 3rd option role at the GOAT level, proving his intangibles and portability.

Wade and Bosh couldn't capitalize on that. Wade especially put up on of the weakest 1st option performances of all time.so this site always had lame bronsexuals making absolutely out of this world excuses :applause: what a surprise