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JZ600
09-01-2016, 12:09 AM
Any sport. Overall athleticism/ complete package.

No fkin trolls. Give me arguable cases

FreezingTsmoove
09-01-2016, 12:17 AM
Tom Brady

GOAT hand eye coordination

Orlando Magic
09-01-2016, 12:18 AM
http://thatsenuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/bo-jackson-nike11.jpg

JohnMax
09-01-2016, 12:42 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/c5/52/3bc55226653f693a2ecbed27523b8280.jpg

PistonsFan#21
09-01-2016, 12:46 AM
http://ageheightweight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Usain-Bolt-Height-Weight.jpg

G-train
09-01-2016, 01:04 AM
Deandre Jordan

G0ATbe
09-01-2016, 01:10 AM
Westbrook, Kobe said it himself. And that's coming from a guy who routinely guarded athletic peak lebald, prime mj.

avonbarksdale
09-01-2016, 01:54 AM
crosby, brady, bolt, phelps

FireDavidKahn
09-01-2016, 02:52 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/c5/52/3bc55226653f693a2ecbed27523b8280.jpg
Doesn't have nearly the speed or quickness.

Round Mound
09-01-2016, 03:20 AM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QF8yJ1J1W7Q/maxresdefault.jpg

bobopenguin
09-01-2016, 03:23 AM
anyone from american ninja warrior.

Megabox!
09-01-2016, 03:32 AM
Lol @ Tom Brady :facepalm

fos
09-01-2016, 03:46 AM
Westbrook

fourkicks44
09-01-2016, 04:21 AM
Allen Iverson.

Smook A.
09-01-2016, 04:21 AM
Tim Tebow

SpaceJam
09-01-2016, 04:25 AM
Jake Stringer

ILLsmak
09-01-2016, 05:03 AM
Bron's super athletic, but he's not off the charts athletic. He has skill, too. Unless you are counting skill as part of athleticism, then he's up there. There are people who make pro sports on athleticism and willpower alone, someone like Rodman, those people are more athletic, to me.

-Smak

ArbitraryWater
09-01-2016, 05:53 AM
crosby, brady, bolt, phelps


Tim Tebow

:wtf:

ArbitraryWater
09-01-2016, 05:54 AM
Bron's super athletic, but he's not off the charts athletic. He has skill, too. Unless you are counting skill as part of athleticism, then he's up there. There are people who make pro sports on athleticism and willpower alone, someone like Rodman, those people are more athletic, to me.

-Smak

bruh the thing that worries me here is that youre not posting as a troll..

ILLsmak
09-01-2016, 07:46 AM
bruh the thing that worries me here is that youre not posting as a troll..

haha, arite, glad to know you think LeBron is the best athlete on earth.

-Smak

MP.Trey
09-01-2016, 07:47 AM
Bolt and Phelps >>

rzp
09-01-2016, 07:49 AM
Shaq

LostCause
09-01-2016, 08:05 AM
Bolt and Phelps >>

This. Though really depends on what you mean by "overall athleticism" and what's considered in your package. Lebron/Bolt/Phelps don't share many similarities as far as what's required of them in their respective fields. However anyone that's played competitive Basketball, Track/Field/Swimming can tell you that from a purely physical standpoint, Swimming/Track >>> Basketball.

That doesn't mean as much given that Bron's just about the best athlete in his sport, but then again so are Phelps and Bolt. Bolt, though, having the argument as the fastest man to ever live is more impressive to me than Lebrons argument of being able to do what he does at his size. Phelps is an entirely different animal due to his sport being in water, but swimmers are exceptional athletes due to rigorous training and their sport requiring them to always be pushing against resistance in the pool

I'd say Bolt/Phelps >> Lebron. Don't expect them to be doing between the legs dunks or anything like that, but I don't expect Bron to come near Bolts speeds or be anywhere near Phelps in a pool, either

tpols
09-01-2016, 08:31 AM
This. Though really depends on what you mean by "overall athleticism" and what's considered in your package. Lebron/Bolt/Phelps don't share many similarities as far as what's required of them in their respective fields. However anyone that's played competitive Basketball, Track/Field/Swimming can tell you that from a purely physical standpoint, Swimming/Track >>> Basketball.

That doesn't mean as much given that Bron's just about the best athlete in his sport, but then again so are Phelps and Bolt. Bolt, though, having the argument as the fastest man to ever live is more impressive to me than Lebrons argument of being able to do what he does at his size. Phelps is an entirely different animal due to his sport being in water, but swimmers are exceptional athletes due to rigorous training and their sport requiring them to always be pushing against resistance in the pool

I'd say Bolt/Phelps >> Lebron. Don't expect them to be doing between the legs dunks or anything like that, but I don't expect Bron to come near Bolts speeds or be anywhere near Phelps in a pool, either

to be fair, bolt and phelps are specialists.. especially swimming, thats just as much a skill as athleticism imo. LeBron is the type of freak that could play lots of different sports, with little training, just off his size, speed and strength alone. what would phelps be if he wasn't swimming 8 hours a day and on a strict 10K cal diet his whole life, practicing in expensive arenas with all types of trainers and support around him.. phelps is like a child prodigy whose parents didnt let him do anything but play piano for 10 hours a day til he started churning out mozart.. Lebron is the type of dude you could just pick up off the street.. quite a difference between the two's athletic gifts.

KiiiiNG
09-01-2016, 08:33 AM
Bolt and Phelps >>
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Bolt beats LeBron in ONE small category of athleticism... Bolt literally ONLY has top-speed over Bron. EVERYTHING (and i mean everything) else LeBron murders bolt.

Anyone who mentions Bolt or Phelps as being more athletic than LeBron is a ****ing idiot. So you sir, are a ****ing idiot. Congratz!

JebronLames
09-01-2016, 08:39 AM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Bolt beats LeBron in ONE small category of athleticism... Bolt literally ONLY has top-speed over Bron. EVERYTHING (and i mean everything) else LeBron murders bolt.

Anyone who mentions Bolt or Phelps as being more athletic than LeBron is a ****ing idiot. So you sir, are a ****ing idiot. Congratz!
Just rewatched that block on iguodala, and it looks like LeBron has better top speed than bolt. So LeBron is more athletic in every way.

fourkicks44
09-01-2016, 08:44 AM
Just rewatched that block on iguodala, and it looks like LeB,ron has better top speed than bolt. So LeBron is more athletic in every way.


Lebron is faster than Bolt now?

You guys just keep outdoing yourselves.:roll:

tpols
09-01-2016, 08:47 AM
Lebron is faster than Bolt now?

You guys just keep outdoing yourselves.:roll:

yea these stans make discussion tough .. bron is much more well rounded, but damn.. chasing down a dude that could barely run up and down the court means you're the fastest man on earth? they ruin the convo

KiiiiNG
09-01-2016, 08:48 AM
Just rewatched that block on iguodala, and it looks like LeBron has better top speed than bolt. So LeBron is more athletic in every way.
On a basketball court? There's no question LeBron's faster. Bolt is a stiff. The dude is the most awkward and clumsy piece of shit I've ever seen. He'd fall over before making it to the other side of the court in a game-setting.




http://cn.hypebeast.com/files/2016/08/usain-bolt-lebron-james-celebration-200-meter-00.gif

LostCause
09-01-2016, 08:57 AM
to be fair, bolt and phelps are specialists.. especially swimming, thats just as much a skill as athleticism imo. LeBron is the type of freak that could play lots of different sports, with little training, just off his size, speed and strength alone. what would phelps be if he wasn't swimming 8 hours a day and on a strict 10K cal diet his whole life, practicing in expensive arenas with all types of trainers and support around him.. phelps is like a child prodigy whose parents didnt let him do anything but play piano for 10 hours a day til he started churning out mozart.. Lebron is the type of dude you could just pick up off the street.. quite a difference between the two's athletic gifts.

Huh? I don't get your argument. Lebron isn't what he is simply due to living life and not doing anything special. He too has/had rigorous training regimens to supplement/maintain his natural ability. Same with Phelps and Bolt, or anyone in any pro sport for that matter

Seems like you're less trying to argue who's more "athletic" and more trying to push the idea that Phelps was privileged while LeBron wasn't. What's the relevance though?


Bolt beats LeBron in ONE small category of athleticism... Bolt literally ONLY has top-speed over Bron. EVERYTHING (and i mean everything) else LeBron murders bolt.

Anyone who mentions Bolt or Phelps as being more athletic than LeBron is a ****ing idiot. So you sir, are a ****ing idiot. Congratz!


Morons gonna be morons I guess. "One small category of athleticism" is the only advantage for the fastest human ever, lol. If you truly believe that then it's pointless addressing the rest of this idiocy

When you're able to discern that athleticism isn't limited only to what makes a good basketball player, then you can chime into this topic. Otherwise, save that garbage

EDIT: Just saw your last post... Jesus Christ. Nevermind

LostCause
09-01-2016, 09:00 AM
Just rewatched that block on iguodala, and it looks like LeBron has better top speed than bolt. So LeBron is more athletic in every way.

Funny thing about this post is that it outlines the idiocy of the thread. Almost like Jebron is clowning his fellow stans

tpols
09-01-2016, 09:08 AM
Huh? I don't get your argument. Lebron isn't what he is simply due to living life and not doing anything special. He too has/had rigorous training regimens to supplement/maintain his natural ability. Same with Phelps and Bolt, or anyone in any pro sport for that matter

Seems like you're less trying to argue who's more "athletic" and more trying to push the idea that Phelps was privileged while LeBron wasn't. What's the relevance though?


lebron didnt have anywhere near the regimen phelps had.. yea he played sports growing up.. but he wasn't anywhere close to being as rigorous as what phelps went through. It's relevant because with phelps it isnt pure natural ability.. he crafted his physical form and ability through absurd amount of work on top of being gifted.. Lebron didn't have to do that to near the same extent. He had the genetics to be a 6'8 250+ lb super fast freak no matter what. It's like when trainers found mike tyson and he could bench 225 for many reps at 13 years old.. some of these guys are just stand alone physical freaks. You're greatly overestimating how much young lebron had to do to be great physically.. yea his practice made his skills and iq top notch, but his freak athleticism wouldve been there no matter what.

Trollsmasher
09-01-2016, 09:09 AM
Lebron is faster than Bolt now?

You guys just keep outdoing yourselves.:roll:
LeBron has a longer stride and therefore is faster at his maximum frequency:applause:

LostCause
09-01-2016, 09:21 AM
lebron didnt have anywhere near the regimen phelps had.. yea he played sports growing up.. but he wasn't anywhere close to being as rigorous as what phelps went through. It's relevant because with phelps it isnt pure natural ability.. he crafted his physical form and ability through absurd amount of work on top of being gifted.. Lebron didn't have to do that to near the same extent. He had the genetics to be a 6'8 250+ lb super fast freak no matter what. It's like when trainers found mike tyson and he could bench 225 for many reps at 13 years old.. some of these guys are just stand alone physical freaks. You're greatly overestimating how much young lebron had to do to be great physically.. yea his practice made his skills and iq top notch, but his freak athleticism wouldve been there no matter what.

I don't know Phelps' autobiography so I don't know when he started training nor can I confirm or deny if his parents "pushed him" through all of this.

The relevance I question because it really doesn't matter how someone got to where they are now, fact is they're there. Can you really prove Phelps' childhood was so much more rigorous than Lebrons, or that Lebron didn't "have to train as much"? Not sure if you noticed but Phelp's body is also just as prototypical for a swimmer just as Brons is for basketball. I don't agree that there's any valid or reliable way to prove one of these men had to do so much more while the other is better naturally, because we don't know what is natural to them because the only version of them we do see is one that worked for what they have.

From a quick glance at wikipedia, Phelps started swimming at 7 as an outlet for his energy and influence of his sisters. Lebron was introduced to basketball at 9 after moving in with a local football coach

PP34Deuce
09-01-2016, 09:53 AM
This is a subjective view but I see him in that top 3 easily. When I think of athlete in any sport I think of their physical attributes, their aptitude for athletics and their actual size/frame. Let's try something here...

Lebron James
6'8-6'8 1/2
260-265
7'0 Wingspan
Vertical- 40 inches
Speed- 4.5-4.6

Basketball- Obviously he's shown at a high level he can play 1,3,4.

Football- Based off his physical explosiveness, Bron could have been a DE or very capable TE. Jump balls would be won by him. Lebron doesn't have basketball ankles, his legs are thick like a football players.

Soccer- Goalie. his ability in basketball to pin layups and timing would make him a fine Goalie. His radius is huge.

Baseball- There have been videos that show Lebron throwing footballs and baseballs high speeds. I could see him being a pitcher.

Volleyball- Most Olympic Volleyball guys can jump out the gym, have great hand eye coordination and are 6'5 and up. He, along with several NBA players would crush it in Volleyball.

PP34Deuce
09-01-2016, 09:56 AM
I don't know Phelps' autobiography so I don't know when he started training nor can I confirm or deny if his parents "pushed him" through all of this.

The relevance I question because it really doesn't matter how someone got to where they are now, fact is they're there. Can you really prove Phelps' childhood was so much more rigorous than Lebrons, or that Lebron didn't "have to train as much"? Not sure if you noticed but Phelp's body is also just as prototypical for a swimmer just as Brons is for basketball. I don't agree that there's any valid or reliable way to prove one of these men had to do so much more while the other is better naturally, because we don't know what is natural to them because the only version of them we do see is one that worked for what they have.

From a quick glance at wikipedia, Phelps started swimming at 7 as an outlet for his energy and influence of his sisters. Lebron was introduced to basketball at 9 after moving in with a local football coach

I'd say physically, they both were gifted with frames for their sports. Some kids are just born athletic. I know a guy who's kid is 8 playing pop football. Never played it before previously and rushed for 3 touchdowns in back to back games. The kid is fast and quick and more athletic. His father played college football of course....

tpols
09-01-2016, 10:03 AM
I don't know Phelps' autobiography so I don't know when he started training nor can I confirm or deny if his parents "pushed him" through all of this.

The relevance I question because it really doesn't matter how someone got to where they are now, fact is they're there. Can you really prove Phelps' childhood was so much more rigorous than Lebrons, or that Lebron didn't "have to train as much"? Not sure if you noticed but Phelp's body is also just as prototypical for a swimmer just as Brons is for basketball. I don't agree that there's any valid or reliable way to prove one of these men had to do so much more while the other is better naturally, because we don't know what is natural to them because the only version of them we do see is one that worked for what they have.

From a quick glance at wikipedia, Phelps started swimming at 7 as an outlet for his energy and influence of his sisters. Lebron was introduced to basketball at 9 after moving in with a local football coach

let me put it this way ... to be an olympic level swimmer, you absolutely need to have an absurd schedule and practice routine. Swimming is a skill, we're land animals. Perfecting all the different strokes, techniques, form is absolutely critical. You cant be a slacker and just get by on stand alone physical talent in swimming. Every millisecond needs to be shaved off with more efficient, repeated movement.

This is not true for basketball at all.. how many guys are in the league because they're just big bodies? How many guys get drafted to play professionally that dont have a lick of skill but are chosen based on talent, upside, physical potential ? a ton... it's much harder to be an olympic swimmer given phelps body, then it would be to be a basketball player given lebrons. If Lebron never picked up a basketball in his life, he could still be in the league as a reggie evans type goon at worst.

iamgine
09-01-2016, 10:20 AM
Russel Westbrook

Anderson Silva

Prometheus
09-01-2016, 10:41 AM
Wilt, bo

TemporaMutantur
09-01-2016, 11:55 AM
http://ageheightweight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Usain-Bolt-Height-Weight.jpg

Word.

SsKSpurs21
09-01-2016, 12:44 PM
This thread should have ended after the Bo Jackson picture tbh.

you can speculate all you want about bolt or phelps or whoever, but Bo showed it. He was an allstar in two major sports. Bo Knows...

CTbasketball92
09-01-2016, 01:09 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Bolt beats LeBron in ONE small category of athleticism... Bolt literally ONLY has top-speed over Bron. EVERYTHING (and i mean everything) else LeBron murders bolt.

Anyone who mentions Bolt or Phelps as being more athletic than LeBron is a ****ing idiot. So you sir, are a ****ing idiot. Congratz!

First of all, you don't know a lot about track. Bolt has top speed over LeBron and most definitely jumps higher and further than LeBron too. D-1 Championship sprinters all have like 40 inch verticals from a standstill and can all long jump at least like 23-24 feet. Bolt most definitely has quicker twitch muscles than LeBron, is definitely more explosive, is definitely a higher jumper and is undoubtedly faster than him at every single distance imaginable. Also, Bolt is 6'5", while LeBron is 6'7" without shoes, so Usain Bolt's speed/acceleration for his size is also much more impressive than LeBron's. Bolt is able to keep pace with world class sprinters in the first 30m of a 100m dash, which most likely means he has a much quicker first step than Derrick Rose or Michael Jordan, and he's much taller than Rose.

LeBron might be more well-rounded, but there's something to be said for being the fastest person that has ever lived, and that mixed with his overall dominance in track and field is at least as impressive as LeBron's, and I'd say in terms of raw athleticism, it's prb. more impressive. Usain also has the frame to be like 225 pounds and prob. still run under 10 seconds while also having a 45 inch standing vertical and bench pressing 450 pounds, which would make him the most athletic person in the NFL, a league full of athletes that are faster and jump higher than LeBron.

LeBron is a great, great athlete, but Bolt is ... just beyond outrageous.

Cali Syndicate
09-01-2016, 01:31 PM
NFL has far more top shelf athletes than NBA, but only a handful that can be regarded in the same tier as "athletes" if not better. James is definitely one the greatest all around specimens of all-time. Bo is probably the best ever though. Maybe Nate Robinson too, dude's a freak.

AirFederer
09-01-2016, 01:34 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/qosj8.gif

Mr Feeny
09-01-2016, 02:26 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/qosj8.gif

:roll:

Cold soul
09-01-2016, 02:48 PM
Any of these guys. Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Usian Bolt, Wilt, Shaq, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Brock Lesnar. Lebron belongs in that group he's ranks pretty high up there as biggest genetic freak athlete ever for total athleticism Lebron is the GOAT for me.

LostCause
09-01-2016, 03:43 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/qosj8.gif

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jwkZwydEtv4/VbCOAZF3s1I/AAAAAAAAGuU/IxLNu1g6kiY/s0-Ic42/Wilt%252520Track%252520and%252520Field%252520KU%25 25201957%252520Summary%252520and%252520Jump%252520 technique%252520clears%2525206-8%252520and%2525201-2.jpg

For a frame of reference to what he did there`(6-6 High Jump)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-xk9VyzwI

Not to mention dude ran a 40 in 4.6s barefoot (For Hank Stram, a HOF Football Coach). Wilt's own admitted 40 was even faster at 4.4, but for arguments sake we'll just say the 4.6 is his fastest since it's stated by a reliable source (who isnt Chamberlain himself) and verifiable. By comparison, Lebron said his 40 was 4.6 (Giving Bron the benefit of the doubt here, if we're taking the athlete's themselves word for it then Chamberlains was faster)

Really, you have to be flat out stupid to try and challenge Wilt's insane athletic ability. How much of a winner he was in hoops is one thing, but don't go full retard and try and downplay how insane dude was as an athlete