Kobe Shot 38% from 3pt range at his peak

[BigKAT]

Not his peak as a player, but his peak as a 3pt shooter.

That's not horrible, but considering that is his -best- season, I don't know why people consider him a good 3pt shooter.

He's definetly more then decent, considering he took tough shots with the d focused on him, as opposed to Draymond green taking open shots for most of his career.

But 38% FG?
That's nothing to brag about when you've done it one season.

Kobe's a legendary scorer, but for his three point range is not better then Lebron's. Heck, Lebron had a 40% season. And if you want to bring up playoffs, they seem about the same with both having a few 40% runs in their resume but nothing more then that.

Anyone who watched Kobe's early seasons thoroughly can point to why did his decline in shooting happened? That 38% shooting season was 02'. Far from his peak. So what happened?

Lebron's shot turned broken too, but we can point to a inch or two lost in his jump shot. What happened with Kobe?

[FreezingTsmoove]

FG% should never be used as a detriment against the big Bean

People forget its LA, its Hollywood. Kobe used to take crazy shots every game to put on a show for them rich white folks

If Kobe wanted to he could have shot an efficient 50%

It doesnt even matter because when the time to win really mattered he came away with 5

[Goofsta Knicca]

Even after retirement, everybody showin' mad love for da Mamba. :applause:

[Mr Feeny]

Not his peak as a player, but his peak as a 3pt shooter.

That's not horrible, but considering that is his -best- season, I don't know why people consider him a good 3pt shooter.

He's definetly more then decent, considering he took tough shots with the d focused on him, as opposed to Draymond green taking open shots for most of his career.

But 38% FG?
That's nothing to brag about when you've done it one season.

Kobe's a legendary scorer, but for his three point range is not better then Lebron's. Heck, Lebron had a 40% season. And if you want to bring up playoffs, they seem about the same with both having a few 40% runs in their resume but nothing more then that.

Anyone who watched Kobe's early seasons thoroughly can point to why did his decline in shooting happened? That 38% shooting season was 02'. Far from his peak. So what happened?

Lebron's shot turned broken too, but we can point to a inch or two lost in his jump shot. What happened with Kobe?

He isn't an elite 3 point shooter. Never was. If I'm not mistaken,that 38% would have been during his first run when Shaq was commanding double teams and giving him wide open 3's.

He didn't peak as high as lebron who was a 40% shooter from 3 as you said. And for his career he's only a 32.9%3fg. For perspective, Bulls Jordan was a 33%3fg and threes weren't his strength.

[Mr Feeny]

Another dumb ass Bransvestite.

Bran has routinely been given 4+ feet of air space on three point shots his entire career, simply because defenders have to back off or be ran over and still have the foul called on them. They don't call him LeStiffArm for nothing. He is literally left WIDE OPEN because players fear the illegal stiff arm and foul called on them.

Kobe was NEVER given air space on a consistent basis because he's a great shooter and isn't allowed to run players over or use a stiff arm.

Bransvestites = box score dummies.

Lebron has to be played differently bc he's one of the best slasher ever and one of the very elite finishers in the paint. Kobe isn't. He doesn't have the first step that a Lebron or a Wade does. That's why you could afford to stick up against him. He's not blowing by you. He's going to sit there and pump fake 5 times before taking an ill-advised, off-balance clank.

[jstern]

Michael Jordan shot .376 from 3s back in 1990. He made it a part of his game that year, taking more 3s than all his previous 5 seasons combined. The only difference with Kobe is that Jordan was the main focus of the defense.

[iamgine]

Not his peak as a player, but his peak as a 3pt shooter.

That's not horrible, but considering that is his -best- season, I don't know why people consider him a good 3pt shooter.

He's definetly more then decent, considering he took tough shots with the d focused on him, as opposed to Draymond green taking open shots for most of his career.

But 38% FG?
That's nothing to brag about when you've done it one season.

Kobe's a legendary scorer, but for his three point range is not better then Lebron's. Heck, Lebron had a 40% season. And if you want to bring up playoffs, they seem about the same with both having a few 40% runs in their resume but nothing more then that.

Anyone who watched Kobe's early seasons thoroughly can point to why did his decline in shooting happened? That 38% shooting season was 02'. Far from his peak. So what happened?

Lebron's shot turned broken too, but we can point to a inch or two lost in his jump shot. What happened with Kobe?
Kobe had a pretty flat shot and he often take ill advised shots. It's clear he was a good shooter at best, never great.

[BigKAT]

Another dumb ass Bransvestite.

Bran has routinely been given 4+ feet of air space on three point shots his entire career, simply because defenders have to back off or be ran over and still have the foul called on them. They don't call him LeStiffArm for nothing. He is literally left WIDE OPEN because players fear the illegal stiff arm and foul called on them.

Kobe was NEVER given air space on a consistent basis because he's a great shooter and isn't allowed to run players over or use a stiff arm.

Bransvestites = box score dummies.

Don't take this the wrong way.
I've watched Kobe.
I think he's an amazing player. And if you read my post you'd see it,

I think that if you do a contests of-
Floaters
Fadeaway Jumpers
Midrange Shots--

Everything. He likely beats Lebron in them.
In a one on one? He might even beat Bron if his jumper is clicking.

All I'm saying is that the notion that Kobe was a better -shooter- in the same sense we consider Ray Allen, Curry and Reggie Miller, is just not right.

Kobe was a lethal scorer. A mamba. But he was not ,ever, an elite shooter.
Elite scorer? Yes. Elite defender? At times. Elite Shooter? I don't think he ever was. Did it stop him from becoming one of the 15 greatest players to ever play the game? Nope. Did it stop him from winning? Nope.


I'ma spell it out for you guys,

Just becuase I think Lebron is greater then Kobe does not mean I do not appreciate/worship the Black Mamba. I also think Michael Jordan was better, and Magic Johnson. But that doesn't mean I hate the guy. I also think Kevin Love will never be a top 50 player, no matter what he does, yet he is still my favorite non-wolves (Okay former wolf) player.

Get things in perspective.
It's not always Bron Vs Kobe.

Also some guy said I'm an alt, I'm not sure what to think of that, but lol go ahead and check my IP if you want. I live half way across the world from most of you guys.

[feyki]

Lebron also had %17 3pt percentages in the finals when playing with %40 in the season .

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron also had %17 3pt percentages in the finals when playing with %40 in the season .

Why not look at their career finals percentages? Not just a single 7 game sample?


You know who comes out on top?

Lebron. He was a better finals 3 point shooter than Kobe.
In fact, I believe that even Jordan was a better 3 point shooter in the playoffs and finals than Kobe and it wasn't his strength.

[SwayDizzle]

kobe was that great of a scorer he has these L stans thinking he was a 3 point specialist. looolz

[feyki]

Why not look at their career finals percentages? Not just a single 7 game sample?


You know who comes out on top?

Lebron. He was a better finals 3 point shooter than Kobe.
In fact, I believe that even Jordan was a better 3 point shooter in the playoffs and finals than Kobe and it wasn't his strength.

Even ? Jordan was solid 3pt shooter since his 92 year .

Admiral and KG are looks like top 10 goat when looking at their season stats .

Lebron had two great shooting season , 13 and 14 ( btw , his 14 year most selfish and garbage year of his career ) . Beside of these two year , Lebron has %29-30 3pt percentages on the playoffs . Otherside , 99-12 Kobe has %34 3pt percentages for the playoffs . Seven %35+ playoffs year for Kobe ; Four for Lebron .

Also , Kobe has %45 on 10-15 ft and %40 on 16-23 ft for career . Lebron has %34.5 on 10-15 ft and %36.5 on 16-23 ft . And one more also , Kobe averaged those percentages on %45 frequency while Lebron on %30 .

%15 more shots and %3.5 and 10.5 more efficient .

And we still talking about Kobe and Lebron on shooting , right ?

[Mr Feeny]

Even ? Jordan was solid 3pt shooter since his 92 year .

Admiral and KG are looks like top 10 goat when looking at their season stats .

Lebron had two great shooting season , 13 and 14 ( btw , his 14 year most selfish and garbage year of his career ) . Beside of these two year , Lebron has %29-30 3pt percentages on the playoffs . Otherside , 99-12 Kobe has %34 3pt percentages for the playoffs . Seven %35+ playoffs year for Kobe ; Four for Lebron .

Also , Kobe has %45 on 10-15 ft and %40 on 16-23 ft for career . Lebron has %34.5 on 10-15 ft and %36.5 on 16-23 ft . And one more also , Kobe averaged those percentages on %45 frequency while Lebron on %30 .

%15 more shots and %3.5 and 10.5 more efficient .

And we still talking about Kobe and Lebron on shooting , right ?


We're talking about 3 point shooting. Why the heck are you wasting my time with 2 paragraphs of unrelated drivel?

Lebron is a better career 3 point shooter AND peaked higher. That's pretty much what we're discussing here.

And don't pick and choose which years you want to select for Kobe's career 3 point percentage. His overall career percentages are lower than LeBron's whether it be the regular season or the final.


Kobe is a career 32.9%.
Lebron is a good 1.1% above him at 34%.

Try to keep up. If this is too complicated for you, I'll slow down. Don't waste my time with mid range shooting in at thread about 3 point shooting.

[Mr Feeny]

Even ? Jordan was solid 3pt shooter since his 92 year .

Admiral and KG are looks like top 10 goat when looking at their season stats .

Lebron had two great shooting season , 13 and 14 ( btw , his 14 year most selfish and garbage year of his career ) . Beside of these two year , Lebron has %29-30 3pt percentages on the playoffs . Otherside , 99-12 Kobe has %34 3pt percentages for the playoffs . Seven %35+ playoffs year for Kobe ; Four for Lebron .

Also , Kobe has %45 on 10-15 ft and %40 on 16-23 ft for career . Lebron has %34.5 on 10-15 ft and %36.5 on 16-23 ft . And one more also , Kobe averaged those percentages on %45 frequency while Lebron on %30 .

%15 more shots and %3.5 and 10.5 more efficient .

And we still talking about Kobe and Lebron on shooting , right ?

Given that Lebron's 2014 season is a better individual season than anything Kobe has ever done, if you call it "most selfish and garbage year", that makes kobe a day league player.

There's a reason lebron is a top 3 goat while Kobe is languishing at 12th. His stan base evidently doesn't get it.

[BigKAT]

Given that Lebron's 2014 season is a better individual season than anything Kobe has ever done, if you call it "most selfish and garbage year", that makes kobe a day league player.

There's a reason lebron is a top 3 goat while Kobe is languishing at 12th. His stan base evidently doesn't get it.

It does feel like Lebron Fatigue is undermining his perception in the eyes of fans.

Anyone else put a 27, 7, 7 year with 55+ wins, that's a surefire MVP.
But the fact he has done it so often just makes people aloof to it.

[BigKAT]

OP, you tried...but ultimately failed.

We all know you're a Bransvestite on an alt.

The whole Timberwolves shtick isn't working.

Grow up.

I like Lebron.
He's an awesome player.
I'm no one's alt, just because I disagree with you.

And I love the Wolves. I'm a fan. think what you want.
Can't a Lakers fan think MJ is the GOAT?
Can't a Knicks fan appreciate Dwayne Wade Or Shaq?

Just because I disagree with you guys doesn't make me a bransvertitie or whatever it is. I've already responded to you on a different thread but ignored it.

Got nothing to prove to anyone.
Just here to enjoy the sport and the discussion.

[TommyGriffin]

OP, you tried...but ultimately failed.

We all know you're a Bransvestite on an alt.

The whole Timberwolves shtick isn't working.

Grow up.
:oldlol:

[zeerghit]

I like Lebron.
He's an awesome player.
I'm no one's alt, just because I disagree with you.

And I love the Wolves. I'm a fan. think what you want.
Can't a Lakers fan think MJ is the GOAT?
Can't a Knicks fan appreciate Dwayne Wade Or Shaq?

Just because I disagree with you guys doesn't make me a bransvertitie or whatever it is. I've already responded to you on a different thread but ignored it.

Got nothing to prove to anyone.
Just here to enjoy the sport and the discussion.

well said:cheers:

[G0ATbe]

The season LeBald shot 40% he refused to take 3's with a defender even remotely close to him...

Just because you're willing to go out of your way to stat pad %'s all season doesn't make you a better shooter:roll:

Last season was a good reflection of what a shooter he really. took a lot more contested shots because his drive isn't as respected anymore and alas, he was hands down the worst shooter in the league. And that was without him getting nearly as much double teams, shot contests as kobe.

38% is pretty damn remarkable given the fact players actually respect his jumper

[tamaraw08]

Not his peak as a player, but his peak as a 3pt shooter.

That's not horrible, but considering that is his -best- season, I don't know why people consider him a good 3pt shooter.

He's definetly more then decent, considering he took tough shots with the d focused on him, as opposed to Draymond green taking open shots for most of his career.

But 38% FG?
That's nothing to brag about when you've done it one season.

Kobe's a legendary scorer, but for his three point range is not better then Lebron's. Heck, Lebron had a 40% season. And if you want to bring up playoffs, they seem about the same with both having a few 40% runs in their resume but nothing more then that.

Anyone who watched Kobe's early seasons thoroughly can point to why did his decline in shooting happened? That 38% shooting season was 02'. Far from his peak. So what happened?

Lebron's shot turned broken too, but we can point to a inch or two lost in his jump shot. What happened with Kobe?
I don't know where you get that idea the poeple regard him as a good 3 pt shooter because obviously he's not same with MJ who might still have that dubious record of 5 pts in a 3 or shooting contest. Heck he probably have the least 3 pt made shots by an Allstar Guard. That doesn't change the fact MJ is GOAT.
Kobe has been retired for more than 4 months and you like to point out another negative thing about him.:rolleyes:

[Dragonyeuw]

All I'm saying is that the notion that Kobe was a better -shooter- in the same sense we consider Ray Allen, Curry and Reggie Miller, is just not right.



When has that notion ever existed? Not even the most ardent Kobe fans would argue he's in that class as a shooter. Kobe would get on those incredible hot streaks where he'd launch from anywhere, but he was never a consistently great 3point shooter. His field goal percentage in general would have been a lot better if he operated around the elbow area more and took less 3s.

[AintNoSunshine]

Kobe just isn't all that. Sure when he gets hot he can score with the best of them. One of the most explosive scorers ever, I will give him that anytime. But overall his impact isn't always there.

[tamaraw08]

When has that notion ever existed? Not even the most ardent Kobe fans would argue he's in that class as a shooter. Kobe would get on those incredible hot streaks where he'd launch from anywhere, but he was never a consistently great 3point shooter. His field goal percentage in general would have been a lot better if he operated around the elbow area more and took less 3s.
exactly. :rockon: If it's me and there's a crazy post insinuating a wrong idea, I just reply to that SPECIFIC message, no need to start a thread to point out the obvious, but that's just me.