My Liberal Canadian POV of American Leftists

[DaHeezy]

First off, let me make my point CLEAR, since it will likely get misconstrued after I make my opinion. I am a Canadian Liberal and supported the Liberal Party and it's POV since I've been old enough to vote. It's been passed down by my family. In fact Pierre Trudeau's policies made it possible for my whole family to immigrate here to Canada.

Now, having said that, these American Liberal Leftists are a completely different animal. For a bunch of people who defend equality and preach tolerance, this group of people are the most discriminant and ignorant people I've ever come across. The moment anyone disagrees they all of a sudden shout racist Trump humper.

What boggles my mind is the majority of them cannot distinguish the difference between immigrant and ILLEGAL immigrant. It's like the moment you defend the idea of following legal processes you are deemed a racist if you believe otherwise. Lol. I defended this to a leftist, explained that my parents moved to Canada legally, I'm a clear minority, and the guy had the nerve to still call me a bigot?

I don't know. Maybe I'm confused about politics and there is a clear difference between the Canadian Liberal party and the American leftist, I always assumed they were the same. But clearly the POV is very different. What's sad is that the moment I state this I'm all of a sudden deemed a Trump Humper. Good luck America. I hope these leftists don't populate your country. It will be worse off than it already is. As a minority, I actually find them far more threatening than any extremist groups

[Richesly]

First off, let me make my point CLEAR, since it will likely get misconstrued after I make my opinion. I am a Canadian Liberal and supported the Liberal Party and it's POV since I've been old enough to vote. It's been passed down by my family. In fact Pierre Trudeau's policies made it possible for my whole family to immigrate here to Canada.

Now, having said that, these American Liberal Leftists are a completely different animal. For a bunch of people who defend equality and preach tolerance, this group of people are the most discriminant and ignorant people I've ever come across. The moment anyone disagrees they all of a sudden shout racist Trump humper.

What boggles my mind is the majority of them cannot distinguish the difference between immigrant and ILLEGAL immigrant. It's like the moment you defend the idea of following legal processes you are deemed a racist if you believe otherwise. Lol. I defended this to a leftist, explained that my parents moved to Canada legally, I'm a clear minority, and the guy had the nerve to still call me a bigot?

I don't know. Maybe I'm confused about politics and there is a clear difference between the Canadian Liberal party and the American leftist, I always assumed they were the same. But clearly the POV is very different. What's sad is that the moment I state this I'm all of a sudden deemed a Trump Humper. Good luck America. I hope these leftists don't populate your country. It will be worse off than it already is. As a minority, I actually find them far more threatening than any extremist groups


What you don't understand is that the left of the U.S is more moderate right compared to Canada's left. This is due to Hilary Clinton doing a full 360 during the elections and making everything racist.


The Alt-Right, which I coin as the real left is what you would be apart of and I am also apart of it.

Most leftist in the U.S are regressives. Understand that.

The U.S had finally got to the point of being color blind, which is as good as you can get, and Hilary Clinton ruined it all.

And yes, these leftist have already populated our country.

It's so sad that they don't realize they have become what they are against.

[Richesly]

But let's be real:

Democracy does not work. IT DOES NOT WORK. Especially when the economy is a capitalistic one, which gives the incentive to buy politicians.

Do you really think the U.S is a democracy? Wanna know something?


Only 9% of the U.S want Hilary or Trump.


That is not anywhere near the majority.

JFK was going to change our economy to have marxism ideas absorbed.

Filfthy ****s had him killed.

This is coming from a god damn CEO of a pharmaceutical company. And people still do not listen. Brainwashed Idiots.

[9erempiree]

Yes, they are a threat to society.

The funny thing about these people is that they suppose to be a tolerant group but they are only tolerant if you believe in what they believe in. It's also an election year and most liberals are bound to their ideology.

ISH is a perfect example of this and during the past year I have called out so many people on here for it. In the past posters were speaking freely. Talking about women they want to bang. They were talking about how fat and ugly some women are. They even talk about how the gays and lesbians are full of shit. Since it's an election year they are bound to their party's ideology and have been very quiet about certain topics and cautious about the threads they make for the fear of being called out for going against the ideas of their party.:hammerhead:

The funny thing is that their party are no longer progressives. Where are the true progressives? This election has shifted them and they are essentially what the 9/11 Truthers were and that is crazy. They want everything to be the same when they know damn well their party is full of corruption. They are afraid of change and want to conserve everything their party is doing right now.

Trumplicans, or this new wave of Republicans, are more open minded. Heck, they want a change that America has never seen before while conserving American values. Nationalism is considered very progressive in today's society since it's considered taboo. Except this version of Nationalism comprises of many different ethnic groups and immigrants who have adopted American culture.

America is the most diverse country in the world therefore Nationalism is no longer 'white nationalism'. Nationalism is all different ethnic and minority groups conserving and preserving American values, American Dream 2.0, but the lefts don't want this. They want to treat minority groups as voting blocs. They want to separate the people rather than unite.

They are going further left with violence during this election and I have mentioned before that an Anarchy will come next. They have no more respect for Law and Order of the land.

Go figure.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4X7O9WEGlc0/TvyaIV61bpI/AAAAAAAAAG8/HK_sC-InIfg/s1600/left_right_spectrum.JPG

We are right now somewhere between socialism and liberalism right now in this country. The violence and protests during these elections have sort of move it towards Anarchism. Where police officers are threatened, law and order are ignored. We are trying to pull them away from danger but they are accusing Trump of pulling us towards Facsim. The script has flipped.

[DaHeezy]

I also find leftists very good at word manipulation.

IE- If I were to ask if they would tolerate an illegal immigrant raping your daughter, the classic leftist response would be so you think immigrants are rapists? :hammerhead:

They also have a gang mentality. For a group of people who defend the minority they have a lynch mentality. They hold up anti bullying signs yet bully to get the message across. I'm genuinely baffled their attitudes.

[9erempiree]

I also find leftists very good at word manipulation.

IE- If I were to ask if they would tolerate an illegal immigrant raping your daughter, the classic leftist response would be so you think immigrants are rapists? :hammerhead:

They also have a gang mentality. For a group of people who defend the minority they have a lynch mentality. They hold up anti bullying signs yet bully to get the message across. I'm genuinely baffled their attitudes.

They are full of shit and here is another example.....

"I want to work hard and provide for my kids. So when they grow up they can go to college. I want to save up for their tuition and make it easy for them."

Liberal response: "That is white privilege. It's not fair that my kid doesn't have a chance against your kid."

They are seriously full of stupid. For example, Asian families don't have this problem and they are a minority and notice the left don't side with Asians? They go and campaign at Black communities and Latino communities but never an Asian communities. :confusedshrug:

It's very well a disease today.

Just decades ago, liberals would understand the hand they were dealt with and tried to work hard and overcome it. As our society became soft, they started to take advantage of the system and blamed others. Government social programs gave women an incentive to pop out babies and these babies grow up being criminals with no fathers. Rinse and repeat.

[poido123]

I also find leftists very good at word manipulation.

IE- If I were to ask if they would tolerate an illegal immigrant raping your daughter, the classic leftist response would be so you think immigrants are rapists? :hammerhead:

They also have a gang mentality. For a group of people who defend the minority they have a lynch mentality. They hold up anti bullying signs yet bully to get the message across. I'm genuinely baffled their attitudes.


The new morphed version of the left is a false former self of libertarian values that actually mattered to them once upon a time.


You are dealing with bullies accusing others of being bullies, using labels and other shutdown methods of speech to push their agenda.


These type of people are very dangerous and lack any critical thinking.


You can call a Trump supporter anything, you can debate with them and they will debate back. But you talk to some of these clowns here and they will label you a number of things and deflect. They don't want to talk facts because that would mean discussing their own shortfalls and their hero Hillary.

[NumberSix]

I also find leftists very good at word manipulation.
They try to police language because they want to scare you away from talking in plain language. The reason... They know that they are a fringe minority. Their presence in certain institutions like the media make it appear like their views are common, but they aren't.

This is why they have to muddy the waters on things like illegal aliens. They know damn well that the vast majority of people are totally in favor of deporting people who are ILLEGALLY in the country. Most normal people who don't spend all their time in politics wouldn't even understand the idea of not deporting illegals. That's why the left needs to muddy it as "immigrants" in general or "Latinos". As if Trump is proposing an ethnic cleansing of Latinos or something.

Most casual people you'd talk to on the street who don't pay much attention to politics who dislike Trump, most of them will say their reason is something like "he doesn't like immigrants" or "he doesnt want Latinos in America". If you just said to these people in plain language though, that Trump said we should deport criminals who are illegally in the country, the VAST majority will say "oh, that seems fair. you have to follow the law".

[Nastradamus]

What you don't understand is that the left of the U.S is more moderate right compared to Canada's left. This is due to Hilary Clinton doing a full 360 during the elections and making everything racist.


The Alt-Right, which I coin as the real left is what you would be apart of and I am also apart of it.

Most leftist in the U.S are regressives. Understand that.

The U.S had finally got to the point of being color blind, which is as good as you can get, and Hilary Clinton ruined it all.

And yes, these leftist have already populated our country.

It's so sad that they don't realize they have become what they are against.

The alt right is the real left, wow.......

[Nastradamus]

They try to police language because they want to scare you away from talking in plain language. The reason... They know that they are a fringe minority. Their presence in certain institutions like the media make it appear like their views are common, but they aren't.

This is why they have to muddy the waters on things like illegal aliens. They know damn well that the vast majority of people are totally in favor of deporting people who are ILLEGALLY in the country. Most normal people who don't spend all their time in politics wouldn't even understand the idea of not deporting illegals. That's why the left needs to muddy it as "immigrants" in general or "Latinos". As if Trump is proposing an ethnic cleansing of Latinos or something.

Most casual people you'd talk to on the street who don't pay much attention to politics who dislike Trump, most of them will say their reason is something like "he doesn't like immigrants" or "he doesnt want Latinos in America". If you just said to these people in plain language though, that Trump said we should deport criminals who are illegally in the country, the VAST majority will say "oh, that seems fair. you have to follow the law".

While people are certainly ignorant about politics, this is a bunch of crap. The main issue people have with Trump and immigrants is that he's using the hate and ignorance of a certain group of voters to gain traction in the election. He's not against immigrants because of any sort of data or policies. Building a wall makes no sense, Immigration is a net positive economically, 200 thousand refugees have come over from the ME and none have been found to be involved in anything resembling terrorist activity, Obama is deporting more illegals than anyone, immigration is down across the Mexico border and from Central and South America in general and most of the new immigrants are Asians and Africans who let their visa expire. So when you say things like build a wall and ban Muslims from immigrating(for whatever amount of time), you aren't doing it because we have actual issues concerning those groups of people, you are saying it because it scares people who are afraid of these groups due to ignorance and hate is easy to unify. Its as disgusting a political move as exists in this world. It has **** all to do with whether or not Trump is actually racist or not.

[Nastradamus]

Fwiw, leftists are a mess right now with the soft, PC crap. Their stance on guns, the false wage gap stuff etc. However, in general a left leaning policy is what will make us most successful. Its economic fact that you need public good and a staggered tax system that basically serves as a maximum wage, as well as a lot of regulations on the business world. Environmental regulations, regulations on monopolies and regulations on Wall Street and banks in particular.

Basically, many leftists are idiots, but the second someone says it is because of "big government" you should punch them in the face and stop listening to them immediately or you will soon be dumber.

[Nick Young]

What boggles my mind is the majority of them cannot distinguish the difference between immigrant and ILLEGAL immigrant. It's like the moment you defend the idea of following legal processes you are deemed a racist if you believe otherwise. Lol. I defended this to a leftist, explained that my parents moved to Canada legally, I'm a clear minority, and the guy had the nerve to still call me a bigot?
All of them can. They just ignore reality and feign stupidity. If you bring up immigration laws, they usually appeal to emotion or use some kind of ad-hominem attack. American leftism has become embarrassing.

Freedom of expression and speech used to be considered a leftist ideal.

Now American lefties are openly campaigning for the government to take our freedom of speech away. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seNhqUKuscQ) Lefties are openly campaigning for racial segregation.
(http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28906/)


It is embarrassing and it is a shit show. Luckily, the public has stopped drinking the koolaid. The cultural Marxist Authoritarians must be defeated at all costs.

[Hawker]

Where did you immigrate from OP?

[DaHeezy]

Where did you immigrate from OP?

Mexico. Which I don't understand why people don't get the context. I don't support illegal immigration, especially with my family having to go through proper immigration procedures. And then these lefties have the nerve to call me racist? Against my own people for that matter? :lol

[Hawker]

Mexico. Which I don't understand why people don't get the context. I don't support illegal immigration, especially with my family having to go through proper immigration procedures. And then these lefties have the nerve to call me racist? Against my own people for that matter? :lol

Numbersix was correct when he said they like to manipulate words.

Trump never called mexicans rapists, criminals etc. but was referring to illegal immigrants and you can look up statistics to show he's right.

Of course this was taken out of context and the leftys extrapolated this out to the entire country as well as those that are in the USA legally from Mexico.

[Nick Young]

Mexico. Which I don't understand why people don't get the context. I don't support illegal immigration, especially with my family having to go through proper immigration procedures. And then these lefties have the nerve to call me racist? Against my own people for that matter? :lol
Exactly! There is nothing wrong with Mexicans! They are hard working people and have strong moral values. A majority of Mexicans ENTERED THE COUNTRY LEGALLY. They applied for a visa LEGALLY just like everyone else in the world has to.


People who illegally sneak across the border, and then illegally settle and work in America should not be rewarded with voting rights, welfare benefits and immunity from paying taxes. If these people want to be in America so badly, they should apply for entry in to the country legally just like every single other non-American has to.

Also, Mexico has a wall on their own southern border, to prevent Central Americans and South Americans from illegally entering Mexico.

If Mexico can have a southern border wall, why is it racist if they also have a northern border wall?

I for one am sick to death of organizations exploiting illegal immigrants with low pay and inhumane working conditions. To me, it is akin to modern slavery.

The Republicans want to end it. The Democrats want illegal immigration to continue because it enables cheap theater experiences and meals at Denny's. Democrats and American Liberals don't see illegal Mexican immigrants as human beings. They see these immigrants only as a tool to be used that enables the Dem's cushy lifestyle.

[9erempiree]

Mexico. Which I don't understand why people don't get the context. I don't support illegal immigration, especially with my family having to go through proper immigration procedures. And then these lefties have the nerve to call me racist? Against my own people for that matter? :lol

:applause:

This is country is built through migration and because we don't want illegals, those idiots call us racist. They are indeed a bunch of idiots and I know how you feel when you say your family has to wait and these illegals are cutting in line.

[DaHeezy]

I like the anology given. Lefties have gone so far left they've popped out the right side. They are extremists cloaked in righteousness. I call see why they are dubbed "libtards"

[Nastradamus]

Exactly! There is nothing wrong with Mexicans! They are hard working people and have strong moral values. A majority of Mexicans ENTERED THE COUNTRY LEGALLY. They applied for a visa LEGALLY just like everyone else in the world has to.


People who illegally sneak across the border, and then illegally settle and work in America should not be rewarded with voting rights, welfare benefits and immunity from paying taxes. If these people want to be in America so badly, they should apply for entry in to the country legally just like every single other non-American has to.

Also, Mexico has a wall on their own southern border, to prevent Central Americans and South Americans from illegally entering Mexico.

If Mexico can have a southern border wall, why is it racist if they also have a northern border wall?

I for one am sick to death of organizations exploiting illegal immigrants with low pay and inhumane working conditions. To me, it is akin to modern slavery.

The Republicans want to end it. The Democrats want illegal immigration to continue because it enables cheap theater experiences and meals at Denny's. Democrats and American Liberals don't see illegal Mexican immigrants as human beings. They see these immigrants only as a tool to be used that enables the Dem's cushy lifestyle.

Its not racist to have a wall, its expensive and ineffective. Screw the racism, its just plain stupid and a terrible plan.

Most illegal aliens fled from somewhere where they had limited opportunity and life was very difficult, maybe even dangerous. Paperwork should not be the major concern in this situation. Go read the bottom of the Statue of Liberty a few hundred times.

Also

1. Americans aren't rushing to do the jobs illegals do
2. The jobs are better than what's available in their own country
3. People seem to have way less of a problem when we send our jobs overseas and pay way less than what the illegal immigrants in our country make.

The bottom line is, immigration is not much of a factor in America. Of the issues we should be discussing, that actually have major influence on our citizens, its about 1000th on the importance scale. People like Trump like to bring it up in order to use fear to create a mob mentality though. Its classic manipulation, as he has done his entire business career(while making shit in China and hiring illegals LMAO!!!)

[Nick Young]

Its not racist to have a wall, its expensive and ineffective. Screw the racism, its just plain stupid and a terrible plan.

Most illegal aliens fled from somewhere where they had limited opportunity and life was very difficult, maybe even dangerous. Paperwork should not be the major concern in this situation. Go read the bottom of the Statue of Liberty a few hundred times.
You are right. We should just blindly allow everyone who illegally sneaks across the border to live and work illegally in America.

[falc39]

Most illegal aliens fled from somewhere where they had limited opportunity and life was very difficult, maybe even dangerous. Paperwork should not be the major concern in this situation. Go read the bottom of the Statue of Liberty a few hundred times.

The statue of liberty was given from France and for the reasons that had nothing to do with immigration. The poem you are referring to was added later.

[DaHeezy]

I was called an Alt-right just moments ago. :lol
How can I behind a group who's ideology is designed to eradicate people like myself?


I swear these Libtards use the term so loosely I don't think they even know what an alt-right is

[DaHeezy]

Strip away the religious affiliation and Trump plug and this guy nails it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J8KCieai9S8