Peak Lebron says Kobe Bryant is the best player in the world

[ImKobe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv37ykpYk84

enjoy

[ISHGoat]

LeBron is better than Kobe.

Enjoy.

[ImKobe]

LeBron is better than Kobe.

Enjoy.

Should I take your word over Lebron's?

:sleeping

[Nilocon165]

Should I take your word over Lebron's?

:sleeping
This was in 2009.

[NBASTATMAN]

Should I take your word over Lebron's?

:sleeping


Jerry West said Lebron was better two months later.. Best judge of talent ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYyAC6PGvA

[ShawkFactory]

2009 was Bron at his most entertaining, not peak.

He still had very little in the post and his jumper was still inconsistent.

[Dray n Klay]

According to this objective formula, Kobe was only a superstar for 1 season in his career (2007)

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417834


:confusedshrug:

[toprange]

Jerry West said Lebron was better two months later.. Best judge of talent ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYyAC6PGvA

Lebron is rarely mentioned as a top 3 of all time by players unless they are picking all time players by position in which case some might give him the SF starting position and unless the players work for the media

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417821

[ImKobe]

2009 was Bron at his most entertaining, not peak.

He still had very little in the post and his jumper was still inconsistent.

He had his best overall Playoff run of his career if you look at the numbers

also he was at his athletic peak, he was a better jump shooter for a couple of years in Miami

regular season

31.7 PER - career high
20.3 WS - career high
13.0 BPM - career high

playoffs

35 ppg 51% FG - his career high
37.4 PER .399 WS/48 - GOAT numbers in the modern era

but he said it himself Kobe is the best in the world and more skilled than anyone else at that time


so maybe we look into stats too much and ignore what's in front of us - the game of basketball

nerds get too caught up in the stats these days and don't even watch the actual games.

[ShawkFactory]

He had his best overall Playoff run of his career if you look at the numbers

also he was at his athletic peak, he was a better jump shooter for a couple of years in Miami

regular season

31.7 PER - career high
20.3 WS - career high
13.0 BPM - career high

playoffs

35 ppg 51% FG - his career high
37.4 PER .399 WS/48 - GOAT numbers in the modern era

but he said it himself Kobe is the best in the world and more skilled than anyone else at that time


so maybe we look into stats too much and ignore what's in front of us - the game of basketball

nerds get too caught up in the stats these days and don't even watch the actual games.
You kinda just contradicted yourself.

You say that stats don't really matter (which I tend to agree with to an extent) but then argue that 2009 was Bron's peak using stats.

It was pretty clear that Lebron was a better overall player in 2012/2013. Better jumper and overall offensive game. Played smarter on both ends. Was at his best defensively, not just one-on-one but making plays all over the court.

He was just better.

[ImKobe]

You kinda just contradicted yourself.

You say that stats don't really matter (which I tend to agree with to an extent) but then argue that 2009 was Bron's peak using stats.

It was pretty clear that Lebron was a better overall player in 2012/2013. Better jumper and overall offensive game. Played smarter on both ends. Was at his best defensively, not just one-on-one but making plays all over the court.

He was just better.

As a player he was more experienced and had better pieces around him but as an athlete he was at his peak in 09.

[Megabox!]

As a player he was more experienced and had better pieces around him but as an athlete he was at his peak in 09.
Dude anyone with a normal functioning brain knows that 2012/2013 Lebron was a overall better player than 09' LBJ. Being a better "athlete" doesn't make you a better player, stop trying to argue this

[ISHGoat]

Dude anyone with a normal functioning brain knows that 2012/2013 Lebron was a overall better player than 09' LBJ. Being a better "athlete" doesn't make you a better player, stop trying to argue this

Anyone with a normal functioning brain also knows that any Lebron from 2006-present is better than the best version of Kobe.

[ImKobe]

Dude anyone with a normal functioning brain knows that 2012/2013 Lebron was a overall better player than 09' LBJ. Being a better "athlete" doesn't make you a better player, stop trying to argue this

but statistically he was better in 09

but now stats don't matter :sleeping

so I guess PER, WS/48 and other bullshit numbers don't matter

I'll never take anyone basing their opinions on stats seriously ever again.

[toprange]

Anyone with a normal functioning brain also knows that any Lebron from 2006-present is better than the best version of Kobe.
anybody except the actual players?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417821

[ImKobe]

Anyone with a normal functioning brain also knows that any Lebron from 2006-present is better than the best version of Kobe.

So Lebron himself saying Kobe is better is not enough to convince you?

never mind everyone else around the league saying the same thing from 06-10

you have a mental disability

[tpols]

... i remember in '10 he was by far voted the most feared player to guard. The thing about Kobe is he goes at whoever is in front of him.. he doesnt spam PnRs til he gets a mismatch with the worst guy on the court.. rather that Bryant relished in taking on the best defenders and embarrassing them. That's why other current players have always had more respect for his game.

[J Shuttlesworth]

ImKobe appears out of hiding after almost 3 months :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

4 MVP's, 3 FMVP's and superior stats > 1 MVP, 2 FMVP's and inferior stats

The debates over, LeBron landed the KO by his Finals performance this year and ended any reasonable argument Kobe had over him. Once LeBron surpasses Kobe in longevity achievements, there's not a single rationale person who will rank Kobe over LeBron all time

[Megabox!]

but statistically he was better in 09

but now stats don't matter :sleeping

so I guess PER, WS/48 and other bullshit numbers don't matter

I'll never take anyone basing their opinions on stats seriously ever again.
Those numbers come with context, statically speaking Kobe in 2003 regular season was better than Kobe in the 2009 regular season. I guess he was a better player then right?

[ImKobe]

ImKobe appears out of hiding after almost 3 months :lol

out on bail fresh outta jail california dreamin'

[KirbyPls]

out on bail fresh outta jail california dreamin'

Getting murked on this board like Pac after Tyson-Seldon.

[ISHGoat]

... i remember in '10 he was by far voted the most feared player to guard. The thing about Kobe is he goes at whoever is in front of him.. he doesnt spam PnRs til he gets a mismatch with the worst guy on the court.. rather that Bryant relished in taking on the best defenders and embarrassing them. That's why other current players have always had more respect for his game.

You have low basketball IQ, just like your idol. It is only fitting that you worship him.

Spamming PnR to get the worst defender is the correct basketball play. Yet you prefer taking a difficult fadeaway against the best defender?

Absolutely retarded. Absolutely typical of a kobe stan.

[ImKobe]

Those numbers come with context, statically speaking Kobe in 2003 regular season was better than Kobe in the 2009 regular season. I guess he was a better player then right?

Either way both versions are prime Lebron and both play on the same level statistically speaking.

[ImKobe]

Getting murked on this board like Pac after Tyson-Seldon.

20 years ago today

history repeats itself

[toprange]

4 MVP's, 3 FMVP's and superior stats > 1 MVP, 2 FMVP's and inferior stats

The debates over, LeBron landed the KO by his Finals performance this year and ended any reasonable argument Kobe had over him. Once LeBron surpasses Kobe in longevity achievements, there's not a single rationale person who will rank Kobe over LeBron all time
Lebron has more media awards so ofcourse the media will say he is greater than kobe. But what are the players saying...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417821

[KirbyPls]

20 years ago today

history repeats itself

Didn't realize it was exactly 20 years ago. :applause: