Whoa! This is how "culturally enriching" immigrants transformed Paris, France

[CleveTown]

How could you just allow this to happen French people. The once famous, storied, beautiful city of Paris transformed into a living 3rd world DUMP. Looks like freaking Sierra Leone.:lol




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju79YT_lBVI

[kurple]

[QUOTE=CleveTown

[fiddy]

Good, fuсk France

[CleveTown]

There are Hobo villages in Cali that are larger than most cities in Norway.

Gtfoh
were the hobos bussed, shipped, flown, walked in through the border and set up by the government? No. so YOU GTFOH.

This is designed by people who want to eliminate white people and displace them. And if you disagree with it you're racist. The awesome thing is white people woke up and dont care if you call them racist anymore. We will make this crap end.

[CleveTown]

Good, fuсk France
say what you want, but France has over 2000 years history and these 3rd world scum are effing it up and turning into an impoverished crime ridden hell hole.

[StephHamann]

Good, fuсk France

:rockon:

[UK2K]

Never been. Wanted to go...

But my aunt, who is doing business in Belgium right now, says Paris isn't what it used to be.

[dude77]

beyond sad

[Thorpesaurous]

I was there late 90s for a week or so. I wasn't crazy about it. What about the "culturally enriching" Subway Sandwich Shop the guy walks by?

[Long Duck Dong]

The sad thing is there will probably only be one of two unfortunate outcomes. Europe will eventually be overcome with these people and we will watch it descend into a 3rd world region, or there will be an extreme overreaction to these invaders. Hopefully it will only lead to mass deportations and not Hitleresque type tactics.

[BoutPractice]

Good, fuсk France
Longing for the good old days of British dominion?

There wouldn't be a United States of America if it weren't for France.

As for this video, I can attest to the fact that this is misleading footage with propagandistic aims.

Those are Sudanese refugees who are forced to sleep on the street in Avenue de Flandre, because they have nowhere else to go. It's a human tragedy, but it has much more to do with Sudan than it does with the city of Paris, which has no jurisdiction over immigration to begin with, and very limited means to take care of homelessness. (There are enough French people on the street already)

The vast majority of neighbourhoods, of course, look nothing like this - in the 21st century, the biggest contrasts in civilization happen on a local level, from one street block to the next. Paris remains one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and in fact, is currently on the up. It was recently in the top 4 of a PwC ranking of the world's most attractive cities.

Clearly the amount of despairing refugees or hate-filled Islamists is simply not enough to change this reality. Paris has been through far, far worse than this. Revolutions, actual invasions, they've been through it all, and always come back strong. White suprematist trolls typically have very little to do with it.

[JtotheIzzo]

Longing for the good old days of British dominion?

There wouldn't be a United States of America if it weren't for France.

As for this video, I can attest to the fact that this is misleading footage with propagandistic aims.

Those are Sudanese refugees who are forced to sleep on the street in Avenue de Flandre, because they have nowhere else to go. It's a human tragedy, but it has much more to do with Sudan than it does with the city of Paris, which has no jurisdiction over immigration to begin with, and very limited means to take care of homelessness. (There are enough French people on the street already)

The vast majority of neighbourhoods, of course, look nothing like this - in the 21st century, the biggest contrasts in civilization happen on a local level, from one street block to the next. Paris remains one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and in fact, is currently on the up. It was recently in the top 4 of a PwC ranking of the world's most attractive cities.

Clearly the amount of despairing refugees or hate-filled Islamists is simply not enough to change this reality. Paris has been through far, far worse than this. Revolutions, actual invasions, they've been through it all, and always come back strong.


Whoa whoa whoa!!!
Stick to the talking points!

Brown bad, black bad, Islam bad!
Trump good, hate good!

Remember its little boys with no influence living on Daddy's dime that call the world cucks and pu$$ies, because they are hardened and battle tested by the real world (except for Fiddy, he is just near brain dead from the diesel fumes he has inhaled since birth in his 3rd world dump).

[Nick Young]

Whoa whoa whoa!!!
Stick to the talking points!

Brown bad, black bad, Islam bad!
Trump good, hate good!

Remember its little boys with no influence living on Daddy's dime that call the world cucks and pu$$ies, because they are hardened and battle tested by the real world (except for Fiddy, he is just near brain dead from the diesel fumes he has inhaled since birth in his 3rd world dump).


strawman
You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.

Example: After Will said that we should put more money into health and education, Warren responded by saying that he was surprised that Will hates our country so much that he wants to leave it defenceless by cutting military spending.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Settle down, sport.
The night is dark and full of winning.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Cj3Ce7e8h2EKY/giphy.gif

[JtotheIzzo]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Settle down, sport.
The night is dark and full of winning.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Cj3Ce7e8h2EKY/giphy.gif

Strawmanning is laiden through your entire posting history. It is kind of your go to tactic. Not being able to see your own shortcomings and projecting them onto others is the first sign of dimentia. You must be older than you let on.

[Nick Young]

Strawmanning is laiden through your entire posting history. It is kind of your go to tactic. Not being able to see your own shortcomings and projecting them onto others is the first sign of dimentia. You must be older than you let on.

ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

Example: After Sally presents an eloquent and compelling case for a more equitable taxation system, Sam asks the audience whether we should believe anything from a woman who isn't married, was once arrested, and smells a bit weird.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem


Very sad.

[BigNBAfan]

Whoa whoa whoa!!!
Stick to the talking points!

Brown bad, black bad, Islam bad!
Trump good, hate good!

Remember its little boys with no influence living on Daddy's dime that call the world cucks and pu$$ies, because they are hardened and battle tested by the real world (except for Fiddy, he is just near brain dead from the diesel fumes he has inhaled since birth in his 3rd world dump).

What the hell are you on about? is it because he said hate filled islamist?

[JtotheIzzo]

Very sad.

no, just a direct insult, because you are an idiot.

and ad hominen would mean I catually care about your response.

[Nick Young]

no, just a direct insult, because you are an idiot.

and ad hominen would mean I catually care about your response.
#mindrape

[JtotheIzzo]

This situation in Paris is hardly anything new, what is new is the 'culture' angle and how the mouth breathers feel that now since the tramps are black, they pose a greater threat to a French culture which has seen their cities burn on several occasions due to war and outside occupiers.

http://mural.uv.es/esamon/downout.GIF

[JtotheIzzo]

#mindrape

Lets deal in facts, you lead the forum in posts last week, and all you posted were a bunch of rah rah Trump posts, and played out spam phrases like #mindrape. What is this 2011? are you LoJ?

Your parents must be proud.

[Nick Young]

Lets deal in facts, you lead the forum in posts last week, and all you posted were a bunch of rah rah Trump posts, and played out spam phrases like #mindrape. What is this 2011? are you LoJ?

Your parents must be proud.


Let's deal in facts.

Trump is now winning, sport.

[JtotheIzzo]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Settle down, sport.
The night is dark and full of winning.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Cj3Ce7e8h2EKY/giphy.gif

like clockwork

do you dream of me in your sleep?

[NumberSix]

This situation in Paris is hardly anything new, what is new is the 'culture' angle and how the mouth breathers feel that now since the tramps are black, they pose a greater threat to a French culture which has seen their cities burn on several occasions due to war and outside occupiers.

http://mural.uv.es/esamon/downout.GIF
Poor French people of the past didn't come from a different culture. They were just poor French people.

[TommyGriffin]

You can take pictures like that in every major city around the world.

[kentatm]

Paris has always been dirty as hell.

When I was there 15 years ago on a class trip the tour guide actually bragged about how they cleaned all the trash off the streets by simply spraying it into the sewers with street cleaners.

[kurple]

Poor French people of the past didn't come from a different culture. They were just poor French people.
You do know that it's more to culture than nationality?

[fiddy]

You do know that it's more to culture than nationality?
Culture is typical for certain nations, those are overlapping stereotypes.

[Dresta]

There are Hobo villages in Cali that are larger than most cities in Norway.

Gtfoh
So it's sensible to turn European cities into shitty American ones, with streets of people living out of bags?


Longing for the good old days of British dominion?

There wouldn't be a United States of America if it weren't for France.

As for this video, I can attest to the fact that this is misleading footage with propagandistic aims.

Those are Sudanese refugees who are forced to sleep on the street in Avenue de Flandre, because they have nowhere else to go. It's a human tragedy, but it has much more to do with Sudan than it does with the city of Paris, which has no jurisdiction over immigration to begin with, and very limited means to take care of homelessness. (There are enough French people on the street already)

The vast majority of neighbourhoods, of course, look nothing like this - in the 21st century, the biggest contrasts in civilization happen on a local level, from one street block to the next. Paris remains one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and in fact, is currently on the up. It was recently in the top 4 of a PwC ranking of the world's most attractive cities.

Clearly the amount of despairing refugees or hate-filled Islamists is simply not enough to change this reality. Paris has been through far, far worse than this. Revolutions, actual invasions, they've been through it all, and always come back strong. White suprematist trolls typically have very little to do with it.
You're such an idiot to mash this silly post out in response to a Bulgarian.

And seriously, what is this: "we've been through worse" garbage? Having had a painful history (like every country: your painful history is actually what necessitated the establishment of stability through a nation state with BORDERS) does not justify the importation of mass squalor and criminality to appease the consciences of solipsistic politicians, celebrities, academics and pundits. Politicians are employed, at the taxpayer's expense, to look after the interests of their own citizens. How hard is it to get that into your silly little head? How hard is it to understand that caring about one's national identity, and not wanting to be swamped with migrants from some of the most undeveloped and backwards parts of the world (without moderation or restriction, i.e as extreme as could be), does not make a person a "white supremacist"?

You want extremism, well, it's right there in front of you to see, if you weren't needlessly paranoid about imaginary extremists, who hold no political capital whatsoever, like white supremacists. Keep burying your head in the sand and pretending racism is the only real problem here; keep ignoring that 70% of France's prison population is muslim, or that the multicultural fantasy is now leading to violent conflicts that were completely unnecessary and wholly avoidable; keep thinking you can change human beings and human nature to fit the grand plan of John Dewey and other intellectual mediocrities; your posts are downright embarrassing, sheesh.

"we've had revolution and war and come back strong, so lets have more chaos!!"

Your logic is flawless man.

:facepalm

edit: and having recently moved back to London myself, I notice that it has changed (as has Paris, despite your fatuous denials), and that it is a disgrace at the number of homeless who don't even speak english, the amount of fully veiled women plodding around, and the sheer lack of cultural assimilation that has made London into an increasingly nasty place to live.

[Dresta]

You do know that it's more to culture than nationality?
Yes, there are regional cultural variations within a larger cultural context that is national. Diversity within unity, built up over centuries, which is now being erased by cultural central planners as nefarious to the survival of civilisation as any Communist.

Mass migration and multiculturalism effaces all of these things, and tries to remake the world and humanity over again as one giant and monolithic grey blob of sameness. They want to erase all diversity and multiplicity from the world, and they do it under the guise of spreading diversity. Well, no, if every place is "diverse", has the same values, adhere to the same dogmas, and so on, then there will be no diversity, and consequently, no culture.

[fiddy]

Yes, there are regional cultural variations within a larger cultural context that is national. Diversity within unity, built up over centuries, which is now being erased by cultural central planners as nefarious to the survival of civilisation as any Communist.

Mass migration and multiculturalism effaces all of these things, and tries to remake the world and humanity over again as one giant and monolithic grey blob of sameness. They want to erase all diversity and multiplicity from the world, and they do it under the guise of spreading diversity. Well, no, if every place is "diverse", has the same values, adhere to the same dogmas, and so on, then there will be no diversity, and consequently, no culture.
And dumb down people in the process, NWO is not too far away.

[9erempiree]

I expected piss but when I clicked on the video I saw shit. :facepalm

[Dresta]

And dumb down people in the process, NWO is not too far away.
The worst thing is that they can't even be happy with letting their own countries commit cultural suicide, but are determined on ostracising and demonising any who disagree with them and dare to resist the central directives, in an effort to eliminate all dissent:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37347352


Disgraceful. And these lunatics pretend to be humanitarians. The EU Commission is essentially a politburo in everything but name.

[9erempiree]

The worst thing is that they can't even be happy with letting their own countries commit cultural suicide, but are determined on ostracising and demonising any who disagree with them and dare to resist the central directives, in an effort to eliminate all dissent:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37347352


Disgraceful. And these lunatics pretend to be humanitarians. The EU Commission is essentially a politburo in everything but name.

lol @ EU fundamental values.

These people are out of their god damn minds.

[Dresta]

lol @ EU fundamental values.

These people are out of their god damn minds.
Since when does a supranational body usurp the right to dictate values to the peoples of Europe? What a joke. The institution was intended to reflect values which were already present, not force them on unwilling populaces. Bureaucratic institutions cannot create (or even have) values; this project is doomed to failure, and they are making the same mistakes as the Soviets, denying human nature, and thinking they can reprogram it through artful manipulation.

They never, ever learn.

[StephHamann]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37347352




Coming from a Luxemburgian, a "country" whos whole existence is based on saving money for the 1%.

[JtotheIzzo]

Let's deal in facts.

Trump is now winning, sport.

Which I have said on here many times will likely happen.

How does this hurt me?

The right actually better serves my personal interests than Clinton does, I just think he is reckless and underinformed.

Hardly mind boggling, but enough to surely have you digging into your meme file.

[Patrick Chewing]

What filth. Europe is lost to the hordes.

[poido123]

I don't see how having those people rotting away on the streets and being a general pest benefits anyone. Put them in a truck and send them back, they are ruining a perfectly clean city.


At least in Africa or wherever they came from, they weren't copping as much hate.

[Nick Young]

Which I have said on here many times will likely happen.

How does this hurt me?

The right actually better serves my personal interests than Clinton does, I just think he is reckless and underinformed.

Hardly mind boggling, but enough to surely have you digging into your meme file.
No one is trying to hurt you.

You need to relax and calm down. This is ISH.

Behave in a civil and friendly manner towards your fellow ISH bros.

If possible, refrain from logical fallacy when attempting to hold discussions with other posters.

Thank you.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Paris has been ****ing filthy for decades.

[imdaman99]

Paris has been ****ing filthy for decades.
Nah that can't be the case. We all know the French are known for their wonderful aroma and their womanses' bushes :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

https://s22.postimg.org/ouambopyp/Firefox_Screenshot_2016_09_14_T05_47_28_972_Z.png

Can someone explain this to me? I stumbled upon this and decided to screenshot it for you guys.

[BoutPractice]

Dresta > Whatever makes you think I'm part of the let everyone in and fuse in a great multicultural orgy crowd?

My main thing is balance, moderation (but the Mediterranean way, with colourful variations, not the dull British celebration of mediocrity - walking the tightrope, not the dog), contextual decision-making, and keeping reality in perspective.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm for reasonably controlled migration (which at this point in history may mean reducing the overall percentage), clear upper limits to the number of refugees we take in, and severe vetting to make sure refugees are not our enemies in disguise (but at the same time, be prepared to spend more money and resources to take care of the few you actually take in, otherwise it's actually more humane to close the door completely).

I don't believe in completely open borders, because if you believe in the usefulness of the right of property you also believe it makes sense for people to demand, individually or collectively, to have a "space" of their own. Personally, I know I prefer the door of my apartment to be locked, and if possible, would trade the open space for an actual office. I don't think nationalism is the gateway drug to fascism. When I criticize a Trump, I'm criticizing nihilism and the lowering of every standard, not nationalism which to some degree can be an effective defence mechanism against civilisational collapse.

I'm a hobbesian conservative with a tragic view of human nature who happens to prefer strong civil liberties and left wing economic policies because of those very views bien-pensant liberals would find shocking. All things considered, I prefer "peace and bread" to any slogan or ism out there.

Now, whatever's happening right now in Europe is a crisis, no doubt. But it's not that big of a crisis, historically speaking... It's not the end of the world, it's not the Great Replacement, not some barbarian takeover that'll set us back for centuries. And it's certainly not part of an elite conspiracy to destroy Western civilization on purpose (if you have a bit of an inside view on what the "rulers of the universe" are up to, you tend to realize they're mostly incompetent, they couldn't correctly execute any conspiracy even if they had the brains to conceive of a non counter-productive one)

What seems to be happening, from my admittedly limited understanding, is that a ridiculously complex, seemingly intracatable world conflict in the Middle East is temporarily leading to a spike in population flows. This conflict may seem as though it will go on forever... but at some point, when the conditions are right, it will stop, and with it, the population flows will revert to normal.

In the meantime, we shouldn't accept so many people that it'll disturb an already delicate situation in Europe too much leading to civil conflict. But neither should we make the civil conflict more likely with apocalyptic, us-against-them rhetoric, and exaggerating the magnitude of the situation.

And as for the Islamist threat, I can assure everyone that France and the French are not taking it lightly at all. They're on the frontline, they know exactly who the enemy is. For the French, it's no longer about intellectual sophistry now, it's a matter of life and death and everyone is feeling it to their bones. The mood right now is very Churchill, or Gambetta, the besieged Republic defending itself. All of this I'm talking about isn't bs, it comes from actual lived experience.

(By the way, it's strange you still hold it against me that I read Dewey and found it wasn't a waste of time. Maybe I should've burnt the books you don't agree with instead of having the temerity to read them? I've also read Schmitt, and Marx, and Oakeshott, and Rawls, and Ayn Rand, which I've all made part of my Mediterranean salad. I like the taste, actually, although the best writers on politics remain, by far, the good novelists)

[Hawker]

Paris has been ****ing filthy for decades.

When I was there 11 years ago there were already muslims/bosnian beggars all over the streets. People sleeping in tunnels on the side.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Cle-Town, you see destruction and impoverished conditions and your first notion is to point fingers at the immigrants?

You think the immigrants are the cause of this? They are only the last symptom and aftermath. The Huns/Visigoths and Mongols could not have taken out Rome or Hungary if they obeyed God completely.

Your first instinct ought to be to preserve and ensure the preservation of your fellow brethren. That's your Christian Duty. Not slander others.

So tell me, how does America save itself from undergoing the same fate? How do each and everyone of us prevent this destruction?

[Rocketswin2013]

Paris has always been dirty as hell.

When I was there 15 years ago on a class trip the tour guide actually bragged about how they cleaned all the trash off the streets by simply spraying it into the sewers with street cleaners.
:lol

[LJJ]

When I was there 11 years ago there were already muslims/bosnian beggars all over the streets. People sleeping in tunnels on the side.

Gypsies brah.



Drug trafficking, vandalism, pimping, theft, antisemitism, rape and harassment, general streetcrime, loitering and intimidation ---> Muslim immigrants

Organized begging, tourist scams, petty theft ---> Gypsies

[Hawker]

Gypsies brah.



Drug trafficking, vandalism, pimping, theft, antisemitism, rape and harassment, general streetcrime, loitering and intimidation ---> Muslim immigrants

Organized begging, tourist scams, petty theft ---> Gypsies

Good catch.

A few of them yelled curses at me as I was walking by in Eastern Europe.

[CleveTown]

I don't see how having those people rotting away on the streets and being a general pest benefits anyone. Put them in a truck and send them back, they are ruining a perfectly clean city.


At least in Africa or wherever they came from, they weren't copping as much hate.
amen!

[CleveTown]

Cle-Town, you see destruction and impoverished conditions and your first notion is to point fingers at the immigrants?

You think the immigrants are the cause of this? They are only the last symptom and aftermath. The Huns/Visigoths and Mongols could not have taken out Rome or Hungary if they obeyed God completely.

Your first instinct ought to be to preserve and ensure the preservation of your fellow brethren. That's your Christian Duty. Not slander others.

So tell me, how does America save itself from undergoing the same fate? How do each and everyone of us prevent this destruction?
by a huge re-education about God and culture and morals, and only vote in politicians and law makers who have similar cultural traits.

Harsher punishment for law breakers and more death penalty would be a great start too

[KyrieTheFuture]

[QUOTE=CleveTown

[CleveTown]

So, Sharia Law?
stop being an idiot. is the God of the Bible the same as the God of the Quran? no.

[KyrieTheFuture]

[QUOTE=CleveTown

[Real Cavs Fan]

The God of the Quran is Satan.

[CleveTown]

Are you sure? How can there be more than one God?
lol there's not more than ONE God. The Hebrew God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the TRUE GOD. The Muslim 9 year old pedo lover god is not a god.

[brownmamba00]

The God of the Quran is Satan.
lol do you think God wrote the New Testament?

FOH

[tomtucker]

The God of the Quran is Satan.
It

[CleveTown]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]It