SI Top 100 players of 2017

[LostCause]

So the SI Top 100 has been out for a bit and being updated daily apparently, you can see it here (http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings)

Interested to see where KAT and Gordon Hayward rank

Judging by prior rankings I'm pretty confident the Top 10 will be:

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Curry
4. Leonard
5. Westbrook
6. CP3
7. Harden
8. Dray
9. Davis
10. Kyrie

Definitely not my Top 10, just seems like the way they'd rank them. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Dray is even higher

[SamuraiSWISH]

Davis will shoot up, I think. Everything else feels accurate.

[Bankaii]

No Paul George in the top 10:roll:
Dray/Kyrie in the top 10:roll:

GSW stacked af though.

[FreezingTsmoove]

No Paul George in the top 10:roll:
Dray/Kyrie in the top 10:roll:

GSW stacked af though.

After a great playoff run last year I truly believe Kyrie is a top 10 player

[TommyGriffin]

Kyrie is top 10 easily.

[SamuraiSWISH]

No Paul George in the top 10:roll:
Dray/Kyrie in the top 10:roll:

GSW stacked af though.
Yea I'd put PG in there over Dray and Irving. Warriors are just flat out the Monstars. Stupid unfair. Real life Space Jam.

[RedBlackAttack]

They have JR Smith at #96. That seems awfully low and behind Bismack Biyombo, Kent Bazemore and Cody Zeller.

Smith is a key part of a championship team. Would they have won the title without him? I'm honestly not so sure.

[Young X]

That's not bad list at all based off of what happened last season. My list is similar.

And how about James and Paul being elite players for 9+ seasons now. Nobody else from back then is still playing superstar caliber basketball.

[LostCause]

No Paul George in the top 10:roll:
Dray/Kyrie in the top 10:roll:

GSW stacked af though.

Personally I probably would put Kyrie outside the Top 10, maybe Dray at 10th or lower also, but after seeing the rest of their rankings... It just seems to me like Drays gonna get in the Top 10 off the strength of his impact from advanced metrics and the like, where he's pretty much the top dog

Kyrie they'll probably say he turned a corner in the Finals, etc

[Nastradamus]

Not the worst list, but no GM would trade Paul George for either Irving or Harden. Not one.

[RRR3]

No one in their right mind would take DrayFraud over Anthony Davis :oldlol:


Kyrie over PG, Blake, Cousins, amongst others? Wat.

[Bankaii]

After a great playoff run last year I truly believe Kyrie is a top 10 player
You're also an idiot so that's not saying much.

Personally I probably would put Kyrie outside the Top 10, maybe Dray at 10th or lower also, but after seeing the rest of their rankings... It just seems to me like Drays gonna get in the Top 10 off the strength of his impact from advanced metrics and the like, where he's pretty much the top dog

Kyrie they'll probably say he turned a corner in the Finals, etc
You really think Draymond is a top 10 player in the league? Impact wise I can definitely see the argument but overall talent I can't put him over Boogie, Melo, Griffin, etc and maybe even Klay. Especially now with KD joining and hogging ball time Draymond might be reduced to a defensive oriented role player.
Kyrie definitely improved but overall he has no argument for top 10. His PO run was superb but he's simply not there yet as an individual.

[Milbuck]

Kawhi is not a top 4 player :oldlol:

[FreezingTsmoove]

You're also an idiot so that's not saying much.

You really think Draymond is a top 10 player in the league? Impact wise I can definitely see the argument but overall talent I can't put him over Boogie, Melo, Griffin, etc and maybe even Klay. Especially now with KD joining and hogging ball time Draymond might be reduced to a defensive oriented role player.
Kyrie definitely improved but overall he has no argument for top 10. His PO run was superb but he's simply not there yet as an individual.

Aw my lil lap dog came back I was worried after I made a few posts today and didnt see you :(

[FKAri]

1 Towns
2a Superman if he was real
2b Goku if he was real
-rest-

[BigKAT]

1 Towns
2a Superman if he was real
2b Goku if he was real
-rest-


http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2015+Ferdinand+s+Ball+3tB-4YAieXHl.jpgBut what if Towns...IS superman?

[BedroomBully]

Curry at #3? Really? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[BedroomBully]

co-sign

after using the 2 time MVP as his personal toilet, def Top 10:cheers:
LMAO :roll:

[BigKAT]

Isn't 40s a bit low for demar derozen?

I mean yeah he's flawed but he's an ECF/All star player this year.

I'd expect at least top 25-30.

[Bankaii]

Aw my lil lap dog came back I was worried after I made a few posts today and didnt see you :(
You responded to my post first dipshit.

[Ben Simmons]

Im not sure how Durant proved he was better than Curry.

Anyways, the list isnt that bad.

[Ben Simmons]

Kawhi is not a top 4 player :oldlol:
Why not?

[bobopenguin]

this top 100 players list is a disaster.

[Prime_Shaq]

Devin Booker

[BlakFrankWhite]

Leonard over Westbrook? FOH.

GOATbrook was running trains over the fool all series.

[fiddy]

No Paul George in the top 10:roll:
Dray/Kyrie in the top 10:roll:

GSW stacked af though.
Kyrie carried Branita, you blind fool

[LostCause]

You really think Draymond is a top 10 player in the league? Impact wise I can definitely see the argument but overall talent I can't put him over Boogie, Melo, Griffin, etc and maybe even Klay. Especially now with KD joining and hogging ball time Draymond might be reduced to a defensive oriented role player.

I just feel like the writers there are super obsessed with things like RPM and all that jazz and since Drays like the golden boy for advanced stats he'll be guaranteed a top spot

[LostCause]

Curry at #3? Really? :roll: :roll: :roll:

#3 or #2. I think the sting of his underperformance in the Finals will hurt him here and the writers will use that against him, there's also the fact Durant is a more complete player overall

3 is about as low as I see them putting Curry. He still put together a GOAT-level offensive season last year and is a back to back MVP. No way he slides any lower than that

For anyone confused, the OP lists my predictions for what they'll put as the Top 10 based on how they've chosen so far. They're not my personal Top 10

If anyone else wants to join in the game and predict what their Top 10 would be, feel free

[aj1987]

#3 or #2. I think the sting of his underperformance in the Finals will hurt him here and the writers will use that against him, there's also the fact Durant is a more complete player overall

3 is about as low as I see them putting Curry. He still put together a GOAT-level offensive season last year and is a back to back MVP. No way he slides any lower than that

For anyone confused, the OP lists my predictions for what they'll put as the Top 10 based on how they've chosen so far. They're not my personal Top 10

If anyone else wants to join in the game and predict what their Top 10 would be, feel free
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. Curry
4. Westbrook
5. Kawhi
6. Davis
7. Harden
8. PG
9. CP3
10. DMC/Melo

This is not my top 10, but I predict SI's will end up being similar.

[LostCause]

Isn't 40s a bit low for demar derozen?

I mean yeah he's flawed but he's an ECF/All star player this year.

I'd expect at least top 25-30.

Just read their take on Reggie Jackson at #54

"No matter what he accomplishes, the focus usually centers on the things Reggie Jackson doesn’t do rather than the things he does. Unfortunately for Jackson (18.8 PPG, 6.2 RPG), there’s a lot of things he doesn’t do all that well: he’s not a big-time finisher, he’s not an all-around playmaking maestro, he’s not a true end-to-end threat in transition, he’s not a knockdown three-point shooter, he’s not the world’s greatest defender, his decision-making can be spotty, and he’s on an $80 million contract, which tends to make all of those problems feel even worse than they are. On top of that, Jackson is 26 and had free rein last year, so it’s hard to project significant further improvement across so many areas. In his defense, though, Jackson is a quality and comfortable pick-and-roll practitioner whose arrival in Detroit was critical to the team’s offensive improvement. While there might be reasonable doubts about his ceiling as a player and a team’s ceiling with him as the head of the snake, Jackson nevertheless oversaw a 44-win team that made the playoffs after a six-year drought. That should count for something, especially if he proves he can deliver that type of result on a consistent basis for the duration of his deal. (Last year: No. 94)"

Guy must have something against him for going in like that

[Annyong!]

Davis being too low is the only glaring issue in the top 10.

[Bankaii]

Kyrie carried Branita, you blind fool
Kyrie average less points (on more FGA and lower FG%), assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks than Lebron throughout both the RS and Postseason and Lebron won FMVP.

Usually I don't respond to shit posts but I have nothing better to do right now:confusedshrug:

[LostCause]

Turns out I was wrong

Apparently they were turned off by Drays Olympic performance. He's at 13. Klay is,at 19. Towns at 23 (I think)

[ArbitraryWater]

KD hasnt shown anything the last year and a half for him to be over Leonard, tbh (never the less Curry)

[FreezingTsmoove]

Kyrie average less points (on more FGA and lower FG%), assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks than Lebron throughout both the RS and Postseason and Lebron won FMVP.

Usually I don't respond to shit posts but I have nothing better to do right now:confusedshrug:

Who scored more points in the final minute of game 7 ?

[ShawkFactory]

Who scored more points in the final minute of game 7 ?
:facepalm

[CTbasketball92]

Draymond Green might just go down as one of the most overrated players in NBA history. He'll be ranked like top 15 in the league this year.

[bigkingsfan]

Who scored more points in the final minute of game 7 ?
So Artest > Kobe

[Lord P]

Gobert and Ibaka over Derozan
That sums up the list

[LostCause]

Gobert and Ibaka over Derozan
That sums up the list

I don't see anything really wrong with Gobert over Derozan

[Bankaii]

So Artest > Kobe
Dude is biggest moron on the site.

[jbryan1984]

I don't know how Kyrie Irving could be anything less than ranked #10.

[LostCause]

The list has been updated

30-11

30. Kevin Love
29. Andre Drummond
28. Derrick Favors
27. Gordon Hayward
26. Mike Conley
25. Kyrie Irving
24. Carmelo Anthony
23. Karl-Anthony Towns
22. Marc Gasol
21. Damian Lillard
20. Deandre Jordan
19. Klay Thompson
18. Al Horford
17. John Wall
16. Jimmy Butler
15. Paul Millsap
14. Kyle Lowry
13. Draymond Green
12. Demarcus Cousins
11. LaMarcus Aldridge

Meaning the Top 10 will be Lebron, Curry, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, CP3, Davis, George, Leonard and Blake Griffin. In whatever order

[Lord P]

I don't see anything really wrong with Gobert over Derozan
All due respect to the stifle tower, but he's not the type of player that can take over and win a game. He'll give you consistently great rim protection, and he's a decent glass cleaner, but that'll only take you so far. Derozan is a top tier scorer who you'd rather build a team around.

[NBAGOAT]

The list has been updated

30-11

30. Kevin Love
29. Andre Drummond
28. Derrick Favors
27. Gordon Hayward
26. Mike Conley
25. Kyrie Irving
24. Carmelo Anthony
23. Karl-Anthony Towns
22. Marc Gasol
21. Damian Lillard
20. Deandre Jordan
19. Klay Thompson
18. Al Horford
17. John Wall
16. Jimmy Butler
15. Paul Millsap
14. Kyle Lowry
13. Draymond Green
12. Demarcus Cousins
11. LaMarcus Aldridge

Meaning the Top 10 will be Lebron, Curry, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, CP3, Davis, George, Leonard and Blake Griffin. In whatever order

hmm kyrie seems pretty low. If they put a big emphasis on him missing games, why is gasol above him and blake top 10. don't think he's top 10 however. also lillard seems even lower too but people remember his series vs gsw too much kind of like kyrie. i've seen people say he's better than harden when he might be even worse on defense than harden.

[RedBlackAttack]

The list has been updated

30-11

30. Kevin Love
29. Andre Drummond
28. Derrick Favors
27. Gordon Hayward
26. Mike Conley
25. Kyrie Irving
24. Carmelo Anthony
23. Karl-Anthony Towns
22. Marc Gasol
21. Damian Lillard
20. Deandre Jordan
19. Klay Thompson
18. Al Horford
17. John Wall
16. Jimmy Butler
15. Paul Millsap
14. Kyle Lowry
13. Draymond Green
12. Demarcus Cousins
11. LaMarcus Aldridge

Meaning the Top 10 will be Lebron, Curry, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, CP3, Davis, George, Leonard and Blake Griffin. In whatever order

What an embarrassment.

Irving is a full five spots ahead of Love and 10 spots behind freaking Millsap? Are they joking? Lowry at 14 and Irving at 25? Wut

[Milbuck]

The Towns slurping is just comical at this point.

[Achilleas]

What an embarrassment.

Irving is a full five spots ahead of Love and 10 spots behind freaking Millsap? Are they joking? Lowry at 14 and Irving at 25? Wut

millsap is underatted,he is better than dray

[RedBlackAttack]

millsap is underatted,he is better than dray
I like Millsap, but the Cavs didn't face a team in the playoffs where they didn't have the two best players on the court when it mattered most. Against the Hawks, it was even more obvious than it was against the others. Millsap is a fine all-around player (certainly not underrated), but putting him 11 spots ahead of Irving and way ahead of the likes of Lillard and Conley ... I'm just left scratching my head.

It is obvious that almost the entire weight of this list was put in the 2015-16 regular season Synergy Stats. They would have been better off just posting those rankings instead of trying to justify the positions with ... words.

[juju151111]

The Towns slurping is just comical at this point.
Towns is top 3 big man in the game already. Lets bet on it.

[LostCause]

All due respect to the stifle tower, but he's not the type of player that can take over and win a game. He'll give you consistently great rim protection, and he's a decent glass cleaner, but that'll only take you so far. Derozan is a top tier scorer who you'd rather build a team around.

I'd rather build around Gobert if I had to choose between them. Derozans a good scorer, but he lacks range and isn't very efficient especially come playoff time.

Gobert can pretty much be placed on any team in any system and anchor the defense. Utah was 2nd to Memphis last season in Opp 2P FGs, and a large part of that is due to opponents fearing going to the rim against Gobert, who also had the lowest opponent FG% at the rim

Derozans scoring is more easily replaced than Goberts defensive impact

[LostCause]

Top 10 is up:

10. Blake Griffin
9. Paul George
8. Anthony Davis
7. James Harden
6. Kawhi Leonard
5. Russel Westbrook
4. Chris Paul
3. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
1. Lebron James

- http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings

[handbanana]

The Towns slurping is just comical at this point.

oh yeah?
how about aldrige at 11?

let's just compare a few things here:

games played
KAT : 82 at 32mpg
LMA: 74 at 30mpg
ironman.

pts per game
KAT 18.3
LMA 18
already a better scorer.

fg%
KAT .542
LMA .513
better shooter.

rebounds per game
KAT 10.5
LMA 8.5
better rebounder

ast per game
KAT 2.0
LMA 1.5
better passer even though he's surrounded with worse shooters.

blocks per game
KAT 1.7
LMA 1.1

PER
KAT 22.5
LMA 22.4
even this sh!t

and biggest of all, heading into this season, how much can LMA improve? he's 30. KAT is 20.
KAT was better even last season. and what are they projecting? idiotic.

[LongLiveTheKing]

I wonder how much Kawhi will get overrated