Whats better, 27/10/7 or 33/6/6?

[Screamin A Smit]

Whats better 27/10/7 in a slower paced league vs better defensive teams (by dtrg) and versus stronger teams overall (SRS ratings)


OR


33/6/6 in a faster pace league vs worse defensive teams (by dtrg) and versus weaker teams (overall SRS ratings)





Whats the better statline?

[JebronLames]

Whats better 27/10/7 in a slower paced league vs better defensive teams (by dtrg) and versus stronger teams overall (SRS ratings)


OR


33/6/6 in a faster pace league vs worse defensive teams (by dtrg) and versus weaker teams (overall SRS ratings)





Whats the better statline?
27/10/7 easily. This player probably drops 35/12/10 in that weaker era.

[ClipperRevival]

The one that went 6/6, with 6 fmvp, never lost when he had HCA (even winning 7 times without HCA, including twice in the finals), highest PPG and PER in history for both playoffs and regular season and responsible for destroying more souls than anyone in history.

That one.

[Big164]

ts%?

[Screamin A Smit]

The one that went 6/6, with 6 fmvp, never lost when he had HCA (even winning 7 times without HCA, including twice in the finals), highest PPG and PER in history for both playoffs and regular season and responsible for destroying more souls than anyone in history.

That one.

Hmm.. your posts contains a lot of anecdotes, subjective infomration, and goes on a tangent to list other stuff that doesn't really relate to the thread title :wtf:







I want you to clearly explain statistically, how 33/6/6 against worse defenses, in a faster paced era, against worse teams overall, is better than 27/10/7 against better defenses in a slower paced league against better teams overall



Is that too hard for you :confusedshrug:

[Big164]

I want you to clearly explain statistically, how 33/6/6 against worse defenses, in a faster paced era, against worse teams overall, is better than 27/10/7 against better defenses in a slower paced league against better teams overall



Is that too hard for you :confusedshrug:
Whats the efficiency? That number is more important when comparing players across positions.

[Asukal]

Hmm.. your posts contains a lot of anecdotes, subjective infomration, and goes on a tangent to list other stuff that doesn't really relate to the thread title :wtf:







I want you to clearly explain statistically, how 33/6/6 against worse defenses, in a faster paced era, against worse teams overall, is better than 27/10/7 against better defenses in a slower paced league against better teams overall



Is that too hard for you :confusedshrug:

How about you prove the bolded first? :hammerhead:

[TommyGriffin]

The guy who didn't collude twice in an already historically weak conference.

[TheWinningFam]

How about you prove the bolded first? :hammerhead:
There's already been 100s of threads showing this.
Jordan played in a faster paced era with weaker defenses, thus inflating his scoring numbers.
Only kobetards/lebron haters think jordan faced tougher competition than lebron in the finals.

[Screamin A Smit]

This thread has nothing to do with any specific NBA player(s) (ie. Jordan)



I made up 2 hypothetical statlines, added some context, and want ISH to tell me which stats are more impressive?


Don't bring up any players here, just look at the stats

[Asukal]

There's already been 100s of threads showing this.
Jordan played in a faster paced era with weaker defenses, thus inflating his scoring numbers.
Only kobetards/lebron haters think jordan faced tougher competition than lebron in the finals.

Well then prove it. Should explain clearly why lefloppy faced fewer 50 win teams in the playoffs and disprove that he played in a very very weak eastern conference that guarantees a finals trip every year as long as he colludes with other in their prime stars. :hammerhead: :rolleyes:

[TheWinningFam]

Well then prove it. Should explain clearly why lefloppy faced fewer 50 win teams in the playoffs and disprove that he played in a very very weak eastern conference that guarantees a finals trip every year as long as he colludes with other in their prime stars. :hammerhead: :rolleyes:, 2012 2013 2014 and 16 were not guaranteed finals trips son, Stop using revisionist history. remember when you were in here saying the raptors would beat the cavs in 7? :roll: now that they lost it was a guareenteed trip, fvck out of here with that. Didn't those pacer celtic games go 7? just stop.

[Asukal]

, 2012 2013 2014 and 16 were not guaranteed finals trips son, Stop using revisionist history. remember when you were in here saying the raptors would beat the cavs in 7? :roll: now that they lost it was a guareenteed trip, fvck out of here with that. Didn't those pacer celtic games go 7? just stop.

Yeah those celtics and pacers teams are so strong they should be added to the greatest all time teams list. :rolleyes:

I dunno how Lecollude overcame such very strong all time teams. :rolleyes: :oldlol:

[TheWinningFam]

Yeah those celtics and pacers teams are so strong they should be added to the greatest all time teams list. :rolleyes:

I dunno how Lecollude overcame such very strong all time teams. :rolleyes: :oldlol:
Again using revisionist history. :facepalm
The bottom line is this ''lebron has an easy road to the finals'' bs is false.

[Sarcastic]

33/6/6 is better. Only the GOAT could put up ridiculous numbers like that.

[TommyGriffin]

Again using revisionist history. :facepalm
The bottom line is this ''lebron has an easy road to the finals'' bs is false.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGDXF9EWoAAsDpG.jpg

[BedroomBully]

The one that went 6/6, with 6 fmvp, never lost when he had HCA (even winning 7 times without HCA, including twice in the finals), highest PPG and PER in history for both playoffs and regular season and responsible for destroying more souls than anyone in history.

That one.
How many times did he choke in the first round? Exactly!

[BedroomBully]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGDXF9EWoAAsDpG.jpg
Did anyone one of those players beat a 73 win team? /Thread.

[GrapeApe]

It depends of course on the percentages, but I'd generally prefer the additional 6 ppg. If were talking 33 ppg on 50%TS vs 27 ppg on 60%TS, that's obviously a different story.

[iamgine]

Did anyone one of those players beat a 73 win team? /Thread.
No one ever beat a 73 win team. It's like beating Jordan's Bulls in '96. Impossible task.

[Sarcastic]

Is the 27/10/6 supposed to be Larry Bird? His actual averages were 28.7/10.5/6.6 in 1985.

It can't be a reference to Lebron, since he never averaged 10 boards per game. Never even averaged 9 actually.

[Bawkish]

of course the one with better offensive production

in finals series, nothing is more important than having a great offense especially scoring. I would rather have that extra +6 pts average than +3 rebounds differential

[GimmeThat]

'we can always look for more ways to score, but I can't teach size'

how many Bill Walton out there that can make a meaningful impact with a 6/7/2


reminds me of the Lebron's brilliance image

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'll take the extra 6 ppg and 3 spg more than the 4 extra defensive rebounds and just 1 more assist. Even though this player is more ball dominant.

All done in a similarly paced league, on the slowest or near slowest offensive pace team in the league. Against way more physicality.

Essentially show casing the best ability ever to score in the half court against set playoff defenses.

27/10/7 is nice to look at from a rounded perspective for stat geeks.

[Screamin A Smit]

I'll take the extra 6 ppg and 3 spg more than the 4 extra defensive rebounds and just 1 more assist. Even though this player is more ball dominant.

All done in a similarly paced league, on the slowest or near slowest offensive pace team in the league. Against way more physicality.

Essentially show casing the best ability ever to score in the half court against set playoff defenses.

27/10/7 is nice to look at from a rounded perspective for stat geeks.


Are you trying to argue that the 33/6/6 played the same level of competition and defensive teams that the 27/10/7 player did :confusedshrug:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Are you trying to argue that the 33/6/6 played the same level of competition and defensive teams that the 27/10/7 player did :confusedshrug:
One Finals team withstanding ... which was exposed as an overrated team well before they got beaten?

On average the in conference competion and Finals opposition the 33/6/6/3 guy faced was superior.

The 33/6/6/3 guy beat SEVEN 60 + win teams.

The 27/10/7 guy beat THREE 60 + win teams.

And yes the 27/10/7 guy got 27 from his sidekick and beat an overrated 70+ win team.

Whose best player was slumping to the tune of a measly 22 ppg. Wetting the bed. Not exactly getting that team's very best punch.

[Da_Realist]

27/10/7 is nice to look at from a rounded perspective for stat geeks.

Ding ding ding

The only way he compares is through numbers. Anybody, even the haters, could sit through an all day MJ marathon and not get tired. That's because the game is more than numbers. Who would actually rewatch Lebron's games? You'd be sleep by the 3rd hour. No wonder all his fans focus on his numbers.

That's not the best way to judge but I can't think of another top ten talent that is less watchable.

[Phenith]

This thread is a prime example of how thread topics mean nothing... it's all the tards just taking it over and arguing about what they want to argue about.

I was hoping for some good bball discussion, instead I got GOAT trolling.
I am so looking forward to even the pre-season getting going.

[BeastMode24]

33/6/6 easily. points is by far the most important. rebounding can easily be statpadded by not playing defense while assists comes from dominating the ball and playing drive and kick basketball.

[LostCause]

For anyone curious about the legitimacy of the comparison, here are the actual stats from their 6 Finals averaged out (Not rounded)

Lebron: 27.52 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 7.27apg, 3.66topg, 1.98 A/TO, .465 FG%, .351 3-PT%

Jordan: 33.6 ppg, 6.02rpg, 5.97apg, 2.85topg, 2.09 A/TO .481 FG%, .359 3-PT%

As you can say the only advantage Lebron has is rebounding. Jordans higher AST/TO ratio on slightly less APT makes him a better passer, scoring is easily in Jordans favor and he's more efficient also. It looks like this if you go with their career totals (So including Lebrons 7th Finals)

Jordan - 33.6 ppg, 6.02rpg, 5.97apg, 2.85topg, 2.09 A/TO .481 FG%, .359 3-PT%
Lebron - 26.9 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 7.22apg, 3.87topg, 1.86 A/TO, .454 FG%, .336 3-PT%

Don't mind OPs trolling, though. Not sure why he keeps comparing Jordan to Lebron, plenty of others to do this with

[Inferno]

33/6/6 lmao

[andgar923]

the one that isn't single covered by Diaw.
The one that is purposely guarded via single coverage.
The one that isn't dared to shoot.
The one that doesn't sit due to cramps.
The one that doesn't flop.
The one that doesn't collude.

[scuzzy]

Damn winningfam and screaming a. COMPLETELY reking these kids :cheers:

[Screamin A Smit]

Damn winningfam and screaming a. COMPLETELY reking these kids :cheers:


@--'--,-< :cheers:

[JebronLames]

For anyone curious about the legitimacy of the comparison, here are the actual stats from their 6 Finals averaged out (Not rounded)

Lebron: 27.52 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 7.27apg, 3.66topg, 1.98 A/TO, .465 FG%, .351 3-PT%

Jordan: 33.6 ppg, 6.02rpg, 5.97apg, 2.85topg, 2.09 A/TO .481 FG%, .359 3-PT%

As you can say the only advantage Lebron has is rebounding. Jordans higher AST/TO ratio on slightly less APT makes him a better passer, scoring is easily in Jordans favor and he's more efficient also. It looks like this if you go with their career totals (So including Lebrons 7th Finals)

Jordan - 33.6 ppg, 6.02rpg, 5.97apg, 2.85topg, 2.09 A/TO .481 FG%, .359 3-PT%
Lebron - 26.9 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 7.22apg, 3.87topg, 1.86 A/TO, .454 FG%, .336 3-PT%

Don't mind OPs trolling, though. Not sure why he keeps comparing Jordan to Lebron, plenty of others to do this with
You forgot the weaker era part.