Better career: LeBron without Wade or Jordan without Pippen? (comparison)

[Screamin A Smit]

Average Team wins

Jordan - 36.4 wins LeBron 51.2 wins



Playoff series wins

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 15


Finals Appearances

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 3


Championships

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 1



MVPs


Jordan - 0 LeBron - 2



FMVPs


Jordan - 0 LeBron- 1





50 win teams beaten



Jordan - 0 LeBron - 5





Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs










Who you got? :confusedshrug:

[KiiiiNG]

Wow... such disparity

LBJ > Jordan

Good work OP

[SouBeachTalents]

How many seasons did they play without their teammate?

[Screamin A Smit]

How many seasons did they play without their teammate?



They both played their beginning years and later years without their respective teammate, so its a fair comparison





Both LeBron and Jordan played their primes with Wade/Pippen and played the rest of their careers without them. So its a fair outlook.

[ArbitraryWater]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'

[Screamin A Smit]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

[Screamin A Smit]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'

No, LeBrons 2 MVPs 3 Finals 1 FMVP is still > Kobes 1 MVP 3 Finals 2 FMVP

[egokiller]

Why is OP so insecure about Lebron's not being as good as Jordan?

Is it because Lebron is an era specific player, meaning that he would never be successful in any other era where colluding was not acceptable. If he tried to join forces with greats like Bird, MJ, or Magic they would just tell him to go fvck himself and make his own destiny by beating them and their squad as the leader of his own team.

[SouBeachTalents]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

Valid point, but how would you compare Wade & Pippen's careers without LeBron & Jordan?

[KiiiiNG]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'
This is a conversation reserved for players in the top 10

[Screamin A Smit]

This is a conversation reserved for players in the top 10


Exactly, Horry has 4 rings without Duncan, but noone really cares about that.

[egokiller]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

55 wins without MJ was debunked over 20 years ago. The 55 win bulls had guys from the 3-peat team like B.J. Armstrong, Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant, but also was a completely different team with Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr Bill Wennington, and Luc Longley.

“It ended up being a far different roster than what we had won with" said Pippen. “Defense continued to be one of our strong points.”

[GrapeApe]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

Wade's career without Lebron >>> Pippen's career without Jordan.

[Screamin A Smit]

Wade's career without Lebron >>> Pippen's career without Jordan.


Did Pippen have a top 5 GOAT without Jordan, Like Wade had in Shaq?

[Real14]

Jordan never played with someone as good as wade. Pippen was nowhere Wade.

[TommyGriffin]

None of these ****** threads will make LeBron better than Jordan.

[LostCause]

Easily Lebron from a winning standpoint, but the comparison itself is rather disingenuous

[Achilleas]

do this but lebron without james jones

22/7/7
35/20/69

[scuzzy]

Welcome Screamin!!!


Ayeeeeeeeeeee. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[scuzzy]

None of these ****** threads will make LeBron better than Jordan.
Talk about Fuming. :lol

Won

We

Did

:yaohappy:

[Screamin A Smit]

Talk about Fuming. :lol

Won

We

Did

:yaohappy:

:lol :roll:

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[JebronLames]

LeBron without wade = 3 rings 3 FMVPs
Ordan without PiPPen= 0 rings 0 FMVPs

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron without wade = 3 rings 3 FMVPs
Ordan without PiPPen= 0 rings 0 FMVPs

:biggums:

[Screamin A Smit]

:biggums:


LeBron basically won without Wade in 2013 :confusedshrug:

[tamaraw08]

They both played their beginning years and later years without their respective teammate, so its a fair comparison





Both LeBron and Jordan played their primes with Wade/Pippen and played the rest of their careers without them. So its a fair outlook.

Yes, it's so fair.
Jordan was at his prime at 38 yrs old after being inactive for 3 years, Lebron was an old fart at 30.
Jordan also had superstar teammates like Popeye Jones, Jahidi White and Kwame unlike James who had trashy frontline of Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson.

[Screamin A Smit]

Yes, it's so fair.
Jordan was at his prime at 38 yrs old after being inactive for 3 years, Lebron was an old fart at 30.
Jordan also had superstar teammates like Popeye Jones, Jahidi White and Kwame unlike James who had trashy frontline of Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson.

LeBron played as many minutes at 30, as Jordan did at 38


So they had the same mileage :confusedshrug:

[tamaraw08]

LeBron played as many minutes at 30, as Jordan did at 38


So they had the same mileage :confusedshrug:

41 thousand minutes= 38,000 minutes, that's right, same mileage. :applause:

And don't forget, Jahidi White,Kwame, much better than Love and Thompson.

[Screamin A Smit]

41 thousand minutes= 38,000 minutes, that's right, same mileage. :applause:

And don't forget, Jahidi White,Kwame, much better than Love and Thompson.

Jahidi White and Kwame made the playoffs without Jordan


Kevin Love and Tristan couldnt make the playoffs without LeBron :confusedshrug:

[JebronLames]

:biggums:
2011 and 2013 are wins without wade

[Sarcastic]

LeBron without wade = 3 rings 3 FMVPs
Ordan without PiPPen= 0 rings 0 FMVPs

The brilliance of Bran Stans showcased for the world :bowdown:

[GrapeApe]

2011 and 2013 are wins without wade

:biggums:

The Heat don't even get past the Celtics without Wade in 2011, much less win a title.

[KiiiiNG]

LeBron without wade = 3 rings 3 FMVPs
Ordan without PiPPen= 0 rings 0 FMVPs
:bowdown:

The wade that LeBron carried to BACK TO BACK rings wasn't the REAL Dwyane Wade! It was an impostor doing his best kobe impression.

Truth be told, LeBron never really got to play with the Dwayne Wade we all came to love in 2006, but played with merely a hobbled un-clutch version of wade (so basically kobe in the finals) ... On the other hand, Jordan played with PRIME/PEAK PIPPEN THE MOST UNSTOPPABLE DEFENDER IN HISTORY AND AND A PASSING SAVANT - LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT SECOND OPTION IN HISTORY BECAUSE HE COULD SCORE/DEFEND/PASS/REBOUND AND NEVER SELFISHLY AND DESTRUCTIVELY GOT IN THE WAY LIKE WADE DID IN 2011 WHEN HE COST THE HEAT THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

Therefore, LeBron > Jordan

[KiiiiNG]

:biggums:

The Heat don't even get past the Celtics without Wade in 2011, much less win a title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rxU9s2TqDc

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Screamin A Smit]

:bowdown:

The wade that LeBron carried to BACK TO BACK rings wasn't the REAL Dwyane Wade! It was an impostor doing his best kobe impression.

Truth be told, LeBron never really got to play with the Dwayne Wade we all came to love in 2006, but played with merely a hobbled un-clutch version of wade (so basically kobe in the finals) ... On the other hand, Jordan played with PRIME/PEAK PIPPEN THE MOST UNSTOPPABLE DEFENDER IN HISTORY AND AND A PASSING SAVANT - LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT SECOND OPTION IN HISTORY BECAUSE HE COULD SCORE/DEFEND/PASS/REBOUND AND NEVER SELFISHLY AND DESTRUCTIVELY GOT IN THE WAY LIKE WADE DID IN 2011 WHEN HE COST THE HEAT THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

Therefore, LeBron > Jordan


:lol :roll:


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[egokiller]

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