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Nilocon165
09-16-2016, 11:08 PM
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Kobe

LAZERUSS
09-16-2016, 11:14 PM
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Kobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QZaZJu2yM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-western-conference-semifinals-kings-vs-lakers.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HtbJFEzJM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-western-conference-finals-lakers-vs-spurs.html

Screamin A Smit
09-16-2016, 11:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QZaZJu2yM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-western-conference-semifinals-kings-vs-lakers.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HtbJFEzJM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-western-conference-finals-lakers-vs-spurs.html
Wilt Chamberlain's choking resume


1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

Nilocon165
09-16-2016, 11:21 PM
Wilt is better tho

LAZERUSS
09-16-2016, 11:34 PM
Wilt Chamberlain's choking resume


1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

Hmmm...




59-60: Single-handedly leads a last place roster from the year before in the first round of the playoffs with a 39-23 series, culminated by a clinching 53-22 performance. Takes that same vastly overmatched roster to a game six, two point loss against a 59-16 team, with a 31-27 series, including a 50-35 must win game five.

'60-61. Puts up a 37-23 series, while his teammates collectively shoot .332.

61-62 EDF's. Wilt single-handedly carries essentially the same last place roster he joined in his rookie season, and past Syracuse in the first round with a 37 ppg 23 rpg series, and with a must-win and clinching game five 56-35-12 triple double performance. His badly overmatched teammates lose a game seven to a HOF-laden 60-20 Celtic team by two points. And Wilt averaged 34 ppg and 26 rpg in the series, badly outscoring, and outshooting Russell, and also outrebounding him.

63-64 Finals. After taking what had been a 31-49 team to a 48-32 record, and with a seven game series average of 39 ppg, 23 rpg, and on a .559 FG%, he then takes that roster to the Finals, where they lose to a Celtic team that has an 8-2 edge in HOFers, 4-1. BUT, the last two games are decided in the waning seconds. Oh, and Chamberlain outscores Russell, per game, 29.2 ppg to 11.2 ppg; outrebounds Russell, per game, 27.8 rpg to 25.2 rpg; and outshoots Russell in the series, .517 to .386.

64-65 EDF's. Gotta love this one. Chamberlain single-handedly takes a 40-40 team, to a game seven, one point loss, and in that game seven, puts up 30 points, on 12-15 FG/FGA, with 32 rebounds. Oh, and that series, all he did was average 30.1 ppg, 31.4 rpg, and shot .555 from the field. His His .555 FG% comes in a series in which the two teams collectively shot .413 from the floor...or a full 14 percentage points higher than the series average. Also had a .575 TS%. Crushed Russell by the largest margin any GOAT candidate has ever received.

65-66. EDF's. Yep, Wilt shot 8-25 from the line in that clinching game five loss, and could only score 46 points, on 19-34 shooting, with 34 rebounds. In the series, he averaged 28.0 ppg, 30.2 rpg, and shot .509 (badly outplaying Russell in all three categories), and how about his teammates? They collectively shot .352 from the field in that series.

66-67. Puts up a 28-27-11 .617 first round. Then destroys Russell and his eight-time defending, and 60-21 Celtics, with a 22-32-10 .556 series (Russell puts up an 11-23-7 .358 Finals BTW.). Stomps a peak Thurmond in the Finals...outscoring him in five of the six H2H's, outrebounding him in five of the six H2H's, outassisting him in five of the six H2H's, and outshooting him from the floor in every game (and by a .560 to .343 margin.)

67-68 EDF's. READ Cherry's account on THAT series please. Chamberlain was playing with an assortment of injuries, including one that was similar to what Willis Reed suffered in the '70 Finals (and was basically a statue after that), and was NOTICEABLY LIMPING throughout the series. That Sixer team was also without HOFer Cunningham the entire series, and still had a 3-1 seriees lead. Then, in game five, (and in a game in which a hobbled Chamberlain put up a 28-30 performance) they lost TWO more starters to injury. They would go on to lose a game seven, by four points. And, BTW, Chamberlain only TOUCHED the damned ball SEVEN times in the entire second half, and only TWICE in the 4th quarter (and those came on offensive rebounds.) He only scored 14 points, but had 34 rebounds, (Russell put up a 12-26 game), and for the series, the "choker" put up a 22-25 .487 series.



continued...

LAZERUSS
09-16-2016, 11:36 PM
Continuing...


68-69 Finals. I don't have the time to detail just how horribly coached that team was. But, in any case, in that game seven, he outscored Russell, 18-6; he outrebounded Russell, 27-21; and he outshot Russell from the field, 7-8 to 2-7, all while recording 10 blocked shots... oh and his incompetent coach left him on the bench in the last five minutes of a two point loss. It was his worst Finals, and yet he still easily outplayed Russell. Incidently, take Wilt and Russell's FG/FGAs out of that game seven, and Russell's teammates outshot Wilt's by a .477 to .360 margin...again, in a two point loss.

69-70. If you are going to blame Wilt for choking away this series, then I will ad 88-89 to Bird's choking resume. Why? Because, while Bird didn't play in his postseason with an injury, Chamberlain was only four months removed from major knee surgery. Not only that, he and West carried a heavy-underdog to a game seven against the heavily-favored Knicks (who had routed KAJ's 56-26 Bucks, 4-1 in the ECF's.) Oh and all Chamberlain could do in that series was put up the ONLY 20-20 .600 Finals in NBA HISTORY (23.2 ppg, 24.1 rpg, and on a .625 FG%.) Find me a series like that from your boy Bird. Much less in one in which he had no business playing.

72-73 Finals. After Chamberlain crushed Thurmond and his Warriors in the WCF's (the same Thurmond and Warriors team that wiped out Kareem and his 60-22 Bucks in the previous round) he them to the Finals, and they lost four close games, all with an injured West. Oh, and in Wilt's very last game of his career, he scored 23 points, on 9-16 shooting, and with 21 rebounds.

THAT was Chamberlain, "the Choker."


Wilt in his 23 must win playoff games...

31.1 ppg, 26.4 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .540 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .435 in that same span.)

In his 37 must win and series clinching games...

29.5 ppg, 26.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .546 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .435 in that same span.)

Mr Feeny
09-17-2016, 04:57 AM
Kobe is a 40% career finals scorer,a 25% finals game 7 scorer, a 36% scorer over his last 2 years, a 39% elimination game scorer.

It doesnt get any scrubbier than that :lebronamazed:

IllegalD
09-17-2016, 08:18 AM
Kobe is a 40% career finals scorer,a 25% finals game 7 scorer, a 36% scorer over his last 2 years, a 39% elimination game scorer.

It doesnt get any scrubbier than that :lebronamazed:


Yet you average 6 posts per day talking about that supposed scrub.

PA

THE

TIC

:banana: :lol :roll:

Mr Feeny
09-17-2016, 08:37 AM
Yet you average 6 posts per day talking about that supposed scrub.

PA

THE

TIC

:banana: :lol :roll:nothing is more pathetic than kobricks shooting percentages:roll:

LAZERUSS
09-17-2016, 10:20 AM
nothing is more pathetic than kobricks shooting percentages:roll:

:roll: :roll:

Lebron against the ONE great team in the East that he faced in his entire career...'08 Celtics... .355 FG%.

Against the '07 Spurs... .356 (which included a series sweeping loss performance of 10-30 from the floor, and 2-6 from the line...in a one point loss.)

Lebron against the '15 Warriors... .398...which included games of 14-34, 7-22, 13-33, and even 11-35.


Of course, another difference?

Lebron was a QUITTER.

In a series tied 2-2, Lebron QUIT on his team.

3-14 from the floor.

You can watch the coward here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

:roll: :roll: :roll:


And how about this...from his own owner...

http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=5365793


"He has gotten a free pass," Gilbert said in a phone interview with The AP. "People have covered up for [James] for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is."


Gilbert said James quit on the Cavs during their second-round series against the Boston Celtics, who rallied from a 2-1 deficit to eliminate Cleveland.

"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."

The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.

Gilbert also said he believes James quit on the Cavs in Game 6 of their series in 2009 against Orlando.

"Go back and look at the tape," he said. "How many shots did he take?"

Yes, he QUIT in that game six... 8-20 from the field, and did nothing when needed.


Then he QUIT on his team in game five of the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PesQ1yA6g


Oh, and who can forget this great moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHxkTHjBZo

Waving the white flag in a game one of the Finals...and being carried out...with... MENSTRUAL CRAMPS!

Mr Feeny
09-17-2016, 10:25 AM
:roll: :roll:

Lebron against the ONE great team in the East that he faced in his entire career...'08 Celtics... .355 FG%.

Against the '07 Spurs... .356 (which included a series sweeping loss performance of 10-30 from the floor, and 2-6 from the line...in a one point loss.)

Lebron against the '15 Warriors... .398...which included games of 14-34, 7-22, 13-33, and even 11-35.


Of course, another difference?

Lebron was a QUITTER.

In a series tied 2-2, Lebron QUIT on his team.

3-14 from the floor.

You can watch the coward here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

:roll: :roll: :roll:


And how about this...from his own owner...

http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=5365793



Yes, he QUIT in that game six... 8-20 from the field, and did nothing when needed.


Then he QUIT on his team in game five of the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PesQ1yA6g


Oh, and who can forget this great moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHxkTHjBZo

Waving the white flag in a game one of the Finals...and being carried out...with... MENSTRUAL CRAMPS!

What does the opinion of a butthurt owner who just had Lebron leave him have to do with facts?

38.5 ppg, 8.5 apg and 8.5 rpg is better than any series Kobe or your other idol have ever played in their lives.

LAZERUSS
09-17-2016, 10:57 AM
What does the opinion of a butthurt owner who just had Lebron leave him have to do with facts?

38.5 ppg, 8.5 apg and 8.5 rpg is better than any series Kobe or your other idol have ever played in their lives.

Chamberlain had a 38.7 , 23 0 rpg, series, which included a clinching "must win" game of 53-22. He also hung a seven game series of 38.6 ppg, with 23.0 rpg, and on a .559 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall), which included a clinching "must win" game of 39-26-10 on 19-29 shooting.

As for QUITTING...

here was Lebron's clinching game in the above series...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200905300ORL.html

25 points on 8-20 shooting.

Of course, he QUIT on his team in game five of the '10 ECSF's, as well...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html

3-14 shooting.

The game is on YouTube as well.

EVERYONE who watched claimed the same thing...

He QUIT.

Just like he has done so often in his career.

Nothing worse than quitting with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS, though.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

RRR3
09-17-2016, 11:20 AM
The 2008 Celtics are the only great team LeBron faced in the East his entire career? :kobe:

Nilocon165
09-17-2016, 11:25 AM
:biggums: How the hell did this thread turn into a Lebron wilt argument?

Strange world.

RRR3
09-17-2016, 11:26 AM
:biggums: How the hell did this thread turn into a Lebron wilt argument?

Strange world.
1. Feeny always brings up Kobe
2. Lazeruss has been obsessively hating on LeBron lately, because LeBron is better than his favorite players apparently.

LAZERUSS
09-17-2016, 11:39 AM
The 2008 Celtics are the only great team LeBron faced in the East his entire career? :kobe:

Yes.

Look at the rosters of the '11 Bulls, and the '15 Hawks, and tell me with a straight face, that those were "great teams."

That's why these Lebron-Wilt "Finals" discussions are so ridiculous.

Lebron was basically guaranteed a Finals in the POS East in his career. Meanwhile a prime Chamberlain was locked into the East in his career...in a conference that had the GOAT Dynasty in NBA history.

BTW, Wilt never faced the Lakers even ONCE in his post-season career. A team that he just ANNIHILATED in his prime. He faced them 86 times, and had 42 games of 40+, including 19 of 50+, 7 of 60+, and two of 70+ (including a 78-43 game.) In all likelyhood, Wilt would own the post-season scoring records had he faced them FIVE times like Russell did.

RRR3
09-17-2016, 11:42 AM
Yes.

Look at the rosters of the '11 Bulls, and the '15 Hawks, and tell me with a straight face, that those were "great teams."

That's why these Lebron-Wilt "Finals" discussions are so ridiculous.

Lebron was basically guaranteed a Finals in the POS East in his career. Meanwhile a prime Chamberlain was locked into the East in his career...in a conference that had the GOAT Dynasty in NBA history.

BTW, Wilt never faced the Lakers even ONCE in his post-season career. A team that he just ANNIHILATED in his prime. He faced them 86 times, and had 42 games of 40+, including 19 of 50+, 7 of 60+, and two of 70+ (including a 78-43 game.) In all likelyhood, Wilt would own the post-season scoring records had he faced them FIVE times like Russell did.
09 Magic, 10 Celtics, 11 Celtics, 06 Pistons?

LAZERUSS
09-17-2016, 11:47 AM
09 Magic, 10 Celtics, 11 Celtics, 06 Pistons?

The Celtics were on the decline. Same as the Pistons (53-29). And look at that Magic roster and tell me with straight face, that they were a great team.

C'mon...had Lebron played in the WC in his entire career, and with the same teams he had in that span, and how many Finals does he get to?

RRR3
09-17-2016, 11:53 AM
The Celtics were on the decline. Same as the Pistons (53-29). And look at that Magic roster and tell me with straight face, that they were a great team.

C'mon...had Lebron played in the WC in his entire career, and with the same teams he had in that span, and how many Finals does he get to?
Impossible to say. Less most likely, but then he might be 3/3 or something and apparently that's better according to ISH

LAZERUSS
09-17-2016, 11:55 AM
Impossible to say. Less most likely, but then he might be 3/3 or something and apparently that's better according to ISH

You are right about that.

Anyway...I have to go.

I'll carry these discussions with you alter on, if you like.

:cheers:

Orlando Magic
09-17-2016, 12:35 PM
This entire board is like watching two retards ****.

Mr Feeny
09-17-2016, 02:07 PM
:biggums: How the hell did this thread turn into a Lebron wilt argument?

Strange world.The ilt/Kobe stan thinks that 38.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg and 8.5 apg is "quitting":wtf:

Prometheus
09-17-2016, 04:25 PM
This entire board is like watching two retards ****.

And a dog.

BedroomBully
09-17-2016, 05:41 PM
1. Feeny always brings up Kobe
2. Lazeruss has been obsessively hating on LeBron lately, because LeBron is better than his favorite players apparently.
I remember this guy Laz being a LeBron fan. He would $hit on Kobe and Curry, all while hanging from Wilt's testicles. Did someone hack his account?

pauk
09-17-2016, 06:00 PM
Like Mike if i could be like Mike!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/1c/c4/aa1cc4e51c28736e2784b015b73cc8c1.jpg

Cold soul
09-17-2016, 06:03 PM
This entire board is like watching two retards ****.

Yeah which is why I said **** this place it sucks now and mods won't won't get rid of trolls they don't care.

Hey Yo
09-17-2016, 06:35 PM
Like Mike if i could be like Mike!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/aa/1c/c4/aa1cc4e51c28736e2784b015b73cc8c1.jpg
On the back of the shirt

https://www.winthebet.com/images/michaeljordangambling.jpg

Hey Yo
09-17-2016, 07:03 PM
Yes.

Look at the rosters of the '11 Bulls, and the '15 Hawks, and tell me with a straight face, that those were "great teams."
The Bulls won 62 games and the conference. Their 62 wins means they were a superteam with the league MVP leading them, correct? I mean, if Miami of 2011 only won 58 games, was the 2 seed and was considered a superteam.....then Chicago obviously was.

Same with the Hawks. They won 60 games while the Cavs only won 53. If ATL and their 4 all-stars aren't considered a great team that season then your standards must pretty high or you're just really high.


Lebron was basically guaranteed a Finals in the POS East in his career. .
Like your boy Magic was in the POS West?

Gettin' first round bye's and/or only having to play a 3 game series' in the 1st round? Beating teams who were a combined 10 games under .500 to get to the Finals

Magic had it so tough....:rolleyes:

SwayDizzle
09-18-2016, 07:32 AM
On the back of the shirt

https://www.winthebet.com/images/michaeljordangambling.jpg
loooool

scuzzy
09-18-2016, 01:23 PM
On the back of the shirt

https://www.winthebet.com/images/michaeljordangambling.jpg
:lol

SouBeachTalents
09-18-2016, 02:28 PM
better than lebron

MVP, FMVP, and regular season, postseason, and Finals numbers say otherwise

HOoopCityJones
09-20-2016, 02:37 AM
MVP, FMVP, and regular season, postseason, and Finals numbers say otherwise

And yet most of the Legends that matter have Kobe above him. :confusedshrug:

Numbers aint the end all be all of this game. This isn't Baseball no matter how much you nerds try to make it out to be.

Dray n Klay
09-20-2016, 02:51 AM
And yet most of the Legends that matter have Kobe above him. :confusedshrug:

Numbers aint the end all be all of this game. This isn't Baseball no matter how much you nerds try to make it out to be.

Yea if you try and find quotes from 2008 :roll:



I'm sure most people had Dr.J over MJ at 1988 :oldlol:

scuzzy
09-20-2016, 04:01 AM
And yet most of the Legends that matter have Kobe above him. :confusedshrug:

Numbers aint the end all be all of this game. This isn't Baseball no matter how much you nerds try to make it out to be.

Too bad the "quotes" you 12be fans been alluding to for years are harshly outdated pre-historically.


Jeeze, I almost feel bad for you guys, still grasping to such outdated material thats inconclusive:


better - "killer instinct" "tougher shots" "eye pleasing" LOL


just overall cringe after cringe :lol

SpaceJam
09-20-2016, 05:00 AM
Really sums up the state of the forums doesn't it

Topic is literally a picture of young Kobe and one word. No statement, no question, just 'Kobe'. Yet it's been 3 pages of Kobe/Bron fans bickering :oldlol: :oldlol:

SouBeachTalents
09-20-2016, 10:11 AM
And yet most of the Legends that matter have Kobe above him. :confusedshrug:

Numbers aint the end all be all of this game. This isn't Baseball no matter how much you nerds try to make it out to be.

A player having more MVP's, FMVP's & superior numbers in the regular season, postseason & Finals doesn't matter! :roll:

Mr Feeny
09-20-2016, 10:25 AM
Really sums up the state of the forums doesn't it

Topic is literally a picture of young Kobe and one word. No statement, no question, just 'Kobe'. Yet it's been 3 pages of Kobe/Bron fans bickering :oldlol: :oldlol:

I am a Kobe stan and I absolutely think it's pathetic thay we compare our hero Kobe to someone who is 9 spots higher on the all time list:confusedshrug: :banghead:

Nilocon165
09-20-2016, 10:28 AM
Really sums up the state of the forums doesn't it

Topic is literally a picture of young Kobe and one word. No statement, no question, just 'Kobe'. Yet it's been 3 pages of Kobe/Bron fans bickering :oldlol: :oldlol:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/13/15/3323960100000578-0-image-a-33_1460557978527.jpg

Kobe

Mr Feeny
09-20-2016, 10:37 AM
That picture is so pathetic:roll: :roll: