Wait, what exactly is the argument for Wilt ahead of LeBron all-time?

[Screamin A Smit]

Stats?


Career PER

LeBron 27.65 Wilt 26.13


30+ PER Seasons


LeBron 4 Wilt 3










Dominance?

MVPs


LeBron 4 Wilt 4












Winning?


Rings



LeBron 3 Wilt 2



FMVPs



LeBron 3 Wilt 1














Longevity?


Career Playoff points


LeBron 5572 points Wilt 3607 points

















Scoring Brilliance?


Regular season, Playoffs, Finals PPG


LeBron 27-28-27 Wilt 30-22-18











It seems like LeBron was FAR greater and more DOMINANT than Wilt in Every Aspect of Basketball






Objectively, there doesn't seem to be a single area of basketball that Wilt was better than LeBron at :confusedshrug:

[Screamin A Smit]

Oh wait.. Wilt was better than LeBron at getting rebounds (mainly against 6'7 white centers)




But thats about it

[TommyGriffin]

Wilt didn't collude twice in a historically weak eastern conference.

[Screamin A Smit]

Wilt didn't collude twice in a historically weak eastern conference.

So teaming up with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor in a league where there was only 8 teams isn't historically colluding? :yaohappy:

[TommyGriffin]

So teaming up with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor in a league where there was only 8 teams isn't historically colluding? :yaohappy:
Wilt was already 32 years old. Elgin Baylor was like 40 years old and he sucked, he might be the only player that is more overrated than LeBron.

[NBAGOAT]

wilt's most likely the GOAT 2 way player impact wise. That's a great argument. Mj definitely has an argument for being better relative to position but he's a guard, you can't just impact that game that much on defense on the perimeter.

[Lebronxrings]

there is none

[Old Man River]

Lebron didn't just play against little white dudes.

Both are downlow gay tho.

[knicksman]

Hes more respected. And thats saying a lot coz wilt isnt even in my top 10 respected players

[AintNoSunshine]

Unless you throw away all the context, Lebron is worlds better than Wilt.

[Bankaii]

Wilt was already 32 years old. Elgin Baylor was like 40 years old and he sucked, he might be the only player that is more overrated than LeBron.
Baylor was 34, averaged 25/11/5 on 45%, came in 5th in MVP voting, and was ALL-NBA 1st team that year.

You are such a fcking moron.

[Human Error]

Mountain lion slayed:

Wilt 1
Lebron 0

[SamuraiSWISH]

Only guy where the ship has sailed in LeBron passing is Mike. The rest is fair game, already been surpassed or still in play. Guys like Kareem, etc.

[TommyGriffin]

Baylor was 34, averaged 25/11/5 on 45%, came in 5th in MVP voting, and was ALL-NBA 1st team that year.

You are such a fcking moron.
Baylor was the OG of empty stats. Don't take my word for it, ask around. He is one of the most overrated players of All Time.

[egokiller]

Only guy where the ship has sailed in LeBron passing is Mike. The rest is fair game, already been surpassed or still in play. Guys like Kareem, etc.

When you play in a historically weak eastern conference, have a 3/7 finals record, collude, and have numerous other strikes against you, then essentially the ship set sail before it was even built. His career is tainted and it's not debatable no matter how people try to spin it. He will never be respected like the other all time players and everyone knows it. Now can we stop making numerous pointless threads about someone who's ship has set sail and focus on conversation that actually has substance and matters?

[SouBeachTalents]

When you play in a historically weak eastern conference, have a 3/7 finals record, collude, and have numerous other strikes against you, then essentially the ship set sail before it was even built. His career is tainted and it's not debatable no matter how people try to spin it. He will never be respected like the other all time players and everyone knows it. Now can we stop making numerous pointless threads about someone who's ship has set sail and focus on conversation that actually has substance and matters?

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[egokiller]

What does having a tainted career have to do with winning a ring for Cleveland? He could win 2 more rings in Cleveland and his career is still tainted. You can't erase history just because it doesn't suit a biased agenda.

[Sarcastic]

Assist titles won?

[Real14]

Wilt didn't have to cheat like Lebron.