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Nilocon165
09-18-2016, 04:40 PM
Been out scored by over 20 ppg by their teammate in the finals?

Wilt 1969 Finals: 11 ppg

Jerry West Finals: 38 ppg

Holy shit...

I know Kobe got out scored like 18 ppg by Shaq once but Shaq is a top ten player of all time.

I didn't even know it was possible to have such an awful mentality that you get out scored 27 ppg by your teammate.

Big164 stay losing

SouBeachTalents
09-18-2016, 04:42 PM
Kobe in 2000
Shaq in 2006

Almost happened to Russell in the same exact series

TheWinningFam
09-18-2016, 04:43 PM
Kobe in 2000
Shaq in 2006

Russell almost did in the same exact series
Kobe isn't top 10 tho..

Big164
09-18-2016, 04:49 PM
Wow somebody is angry!!! Lol but yeah you got owned in response #1...2006 Wade greatest Miami heat Finals ever


Have a happy Sunday!
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Nilocon165
09-18-2016, 04:51 PM
Kobe in 2000
Shaq in 2006

Almost happened to Russell in the same exact series
kobe in 2000 was out scored by Shaq, who is a top ten player ever. West is not.

Shaq was past his prime in 06

Wasn't aware of the Russell series, but he was never really known for scoring unlike Wilt, who could average like 50 in a season then like 15 in the finals

EDIT: Russell wasn't outscored by over 20.

Psileas
09-18-2016, 05:09 PM
Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt led every single playoff series in rebounding?

Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt that was assigned the #1 scoring role of his team led every playoff series in scoring? (Only Jordan has)

Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt grabbed 10+ rebounds in every single playoff game of his career?

Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt faced 2 of the 4-5 GOAT defenders at his position in 41% of his playoff games?

Big164
09-18-2016, 05:27 PM
Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt led every single playoff series in rebounding?

WV is GOAT rebounder, Not even Peak Kareem could compete...Is Lebron the greatest at any single statistic? Maybe turnovers..but mostly a man of many traits, a master at nothing...

Big164
09-18-2016, 05:28 PM
Has any other Top Ten Player in NBA History Other than Wilt led every single playoff series in rebounding?

WC is GOAT rebounder, Not even Peak Kareem could compete...Is Lebron the greatest at any single statistic? Maybe turnovers..but mostly a man of many traits, a master at nothing...

Screamin A Smit
09-18-2016, 05:41 PM
WC is GOAT rebounder, Not even Peak Kareem could compete...Is Lebron the greatest at any single statistic? Maybe turnovers..but mostly a man of many traits, a master at nothing...

Wilt mastered the choke

LAZERUSS
09-18-2016, 05:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain

[QUOTE]In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[92] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[92] [B]Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104

Big164
09-18-2016, 06:02 PM
Wilt mastered the choke
I thought so too...until 2011

Bron brought choking to the next level

aj1987
09-22-2016, 04:59 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain



BTW, Chamberlain averaged 10.8 ppg in that series.

Compare that with this...

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history



In other words...

Wilt's 10.8 ppg >>>>> LeChoke's 35.8 ppg

Wilt... GOAT

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
How can ANYONE be this obnoxiously retarded?

From another thread:

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG


That's why he took over 30 shots a game, you inbred retarded shit.

LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 08:36 AM
[QUOTE=aj1987]How can ANYONE be this obnoxiously retarded?

From another thread:

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland

aj1987
09-22-2016, 08:40 AM
Shamelessly shot his team right down the toilet. Stats-padding loser that he has been his entire career.
Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without James on the floor, Cleveland

RRR3
09-22-2016, 09:47 AM
AJ :applause:


Hitting Ilt fans with the facts

Jameerthefear
09-22-2016, 09:48 AM
How can ANYONE be this obnoxiously retarded?

From another thread:

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG


That's why he took over 30 shots a game, you inbred retarded shit.
HOLY f*CK what an ether

Mr Feeny
09-22-2016, 11:21 AM
Wow somebody is angry!!! Lol but yeah you got owned in response #1...2006 Wade greatest Miami heat Finals ever


Have a happy Sunday!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yhlETG9pkv4/VIUK8h9hF5I/AAAAAAAAFmc/Mdo3FublhFw/s800/nba-highest-scoring-games3OnlyWilt.jpg

That list of regular season outbursts:eek:
Right before the playoffs came around and Wilt's scoring dropped to 22 pg and 18 ppg:roll: :roll:

LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 01:00 PM
[QUOTE=aj1987]Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without James on the floor, Cleveland

ClipperRevival
09-22-2016, 01:06 PM
This useless post is pure garbage.

LeCHOKE was SINGLE-COVERED the ENTIRE series.

That is well documented, and the video footage supports it.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history



No matter how poorly LePuke's teammates played, it doesn't excuse LeClank from putting up one of the most miserable finals in NBA history.

BTW, LePuke's teammates have a pattern of playing way below their normal numbers. It's no surprise in this Finals that they did as well. With the ballhog stats-padding LeFlop controlling the ball the ENTIRE time he had it...I can see where his teammates would have given up...just like LeQUIT has MANY times in his career.


INEXCUSEABLE.

Leshrivel.

:roll: Meltdown.

LeChoke
LePuke
LeShrivel
LeFlop
LeClank
LeQuit

Dray n Klay
09-22-2016, 01:12 PM
:roll: Meltdown.

LeChoke
LePuke
LeShrivel
LeFlop
LeClank
LeQuit


LOL, you basically act the same way in the Bron-Jordan comparisons.

aj1987
09-22-2016, 01:57 PM
:roll: Meltdown.

LeChoke
LePuke
LeShrivel
LeFlop
LeClank
LeQuit
:roll: :roll:

I can just picture the loser crying his eyes out while posting all that shit.


This useless post is pure garbage.

LeCHOKE was SINGLE-COVERED the ENTIRE series.

That is well documented, and the video footage supports it.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history



No matter how poorly LePuke's teammates played, it doesn't excuse LeClank from putting up one of the most miserable finals in NBA history.

BTW, LePuke's teammates have a pattern of playing way below their normal numbers. It's no surprise in this Finals that they did as well. With the ballhog stats-padding LeFlop controlling the ball the ENTIRE time he had it...I can see where his teammates would have given up...just like LeQUIT has MANY times in his career.


INEXCUSEABLE.

Leshrivel.
LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG


Go back to mastrubating to your mental midget lover, Lozerus.

Big164
09-22-2016, 02:09 PM
LOL, you basically act the same way in the Bron-Jordan comparisons.
I think it's adorable how fan bases of players who never scored 70 are arguing who the best is.

Fascinating

SouBeachTalents
09-22-2016, 02:11 PM
I think it's adorable how fan bases of players who never scored 70 are arguing who the best is.

Fascinating

Not as adorable as fan bases of players with 2 FMVP's talking shit about players with 3

aj1987
09-22-2016, 02:26 PM
Not as adorable as fan bases of players with 2 FMVP's talking shit about players with 3
Hold the L, Lozerus.

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