I can't stop listening to this.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hgVihWjK2c

[Doomsday Dallas]

The Temper Trap - Soldier On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZs0_r3ROjg)


This is similar... but better.

[gigantes]

the modern spanish guitar work in the radiohead song is pretty cool. but yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me. i'd be more interested hearing that as an instrumental.

if you guys liked these songs, you really owe it to yourselves to check out some good indy pop / indy rock. they tend to have more freedom to experiment than these groups, so on the one hand they'll produce crap that you wouldn't spend more than ten seconds listening to, but OTOH they regularly produce stuff that's fresh, different and amazing.

[sd3035]

the modern spanish guitar work in the radiohead song is pretty cool. but yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me. i'd be more interested hearing that as an instrumental.

if you guys liked these songs, you really owe it to yourselves to check out some good indy pop / indy rock. they tend to have more freedom to experiment than these groups, so on the one hand they'll produce crap that you wouldn't spend more than ten seconds listening to, but OTOH they regularly produce stuff that's fresh, different and amazing.


Thom Yorke does whatever he wants

[andgar923]

the modern spanish guitar work in the radiohead song is pretty cool. but yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me. i'd be more interested hearing that as an instrumental.

if you guys liked these songs, you really owe it to yourselves to check out some good indy pop / indy rock. they tend to have more freedom to experiment than these groups, so on the one hand they'll produce crap that you wouldn't spend more than ten seconds listening to, but OTOH they regularly produce stuff that's fresh, different and amazing.
Uh, Radiohead is not a comformist, it's actually hard to pinpoint what type of genre the last Radiohead album is. It plays with different styles in a seamless manner.

Also please post some of the better indie stuff that's better that you're referring to, I honestly want to hear what you're referring to.

Btw... the song linked is perhaps the 4th best song on the album.

[gigantes]

Thom Yorke does whatever he wants
gigantes, post #3: "yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me."



Uh, Radiohead is not a comformist, it's actually hard to pinpoint what type of genre the last Radiohead album is. It plays with different styles in a seamless manner.
i'm not debating that. but once any successful act hits a certain point, there's increasing pressure to live up to their legal contracts, their fanbase, and to the bottom line. all of that has an impact on creativity no matter who there are.

that started long before radiohead and i don't see that changing much in the years ahead.



Also please post some of the better indie stuff that's better that you're referring to, I honestly want to hear what you're referring to.

Btw... the song linked is perhaps the 4th best song on the album.
ISH did a huge thread on indie pop. here it is:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276033

i'm not saying any particular song there is better than any particular song you like by radiohead or whoever. that was a group effort, and my personal picks are going to differ.

as for indy rock, i don't listen to that much myself since i'm tired of rock right now. but i'd say just look up some indy rock streams, let them play as you browse or whatever, note the songs you like, then when you have a good-sized list, download them from youtube.

do that and you'll wind up with an awesome mix custom made for you, by you.

[sd3035]

gigantes, post #3: "yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me."



i'm not debating that. but once any successful act hits a certain point, there's increasing pressure to live up to their legal contracts, their fanbase, and to the bottom line. all of that has an impact on creativity no matter who there are.

that started long before radiohead and i don't see that changing much in the years ahead.



ISH did a huge thread on indie pop. here it is:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276033

i'm not saying any particular song there is better than any particular song you like by radiohead or whoever. that was a group effort, and my personal picks are going to differ.

as for indy rock, i don't listen to that much myself since i'm tired of rock right now. but i'd say just look up some indy rock streams, let them play as you browse or whatever, note the songs you like, then when you have a good-sized list, download them from youtube.

do that and you'll wind up with an awesome mix custom made for you, by you.

Radiohead was one of the worst possible examples you could have used, it made you look like you know nothing about the music industry

[andgar923]

gigantes, post #3: "yorke does that same vocal style like every other song and it's aging pretty hard for me."



i'm not debating that. but once any successful act hits a certain point, there's increasing pressure to live up to their legal contracts, their fanbase, and to the bottom line. all of that has an impact on creativity no matter who there are.

that started long before radiohead and i don't see that changing much in the years ahead.



ISH did a huge thread on indie pop. here it is:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276033

i'm not saying any particular song there is better than any particular song you like by radiohead or whoever. that was a group effort, and my personal picks are going to differ.

as for indy rock, i don't listen to that much myself since i'm tired of rock right now. but i'd say just look up some indy rock streams, let them play as you browse or whatever, note the songs you like, then when you have a good-sized list, download them from youtube.

do that and you'll wind up with an awesome mix custom made for you, by you.

And that's one of the reasons why Radiohead gets praised and blasted at the same time.

They HAVEN'T stayed constantly the same. They've changed which is what made them different. Although this album isn't OK Computer, it is a departure from their other work in a sense. The last album was more sublime/melodic with small glimpses of a traditional rock album. There was a concentration on classical compositions along with minimalist-esque soundscapes. Something that they've touched upon in the past no doubt, but this time around it was the main focus.

In past albums they ventured into everything from electronica and jazz, this album doesn't concentrate on that. This last album isn't groundbreaking, but not even the Beatles could make a Sgt Pepper's every single time. Radiohead can't make an Ok Computer every single go around.

Interviews before this album's release even mentioned how they were trying different things, they were experimenting with ideas and new recording and musical ideas. We may not hear it initially but it's there.

In regards to Yorke's singing.

Im sure it can get tired, but one will eventually default to some of the same styles of singing/writing after the amount of work they've done. One can only do so many variations/styles. Now, that's not me trying to defend him that's just a fact, it's the same for every single artist that's ever made any music.


Thx for the link I'll try to check it out (after I do my chores :lol )

I was about to make a 'rock' thread the other day since I feel it's dead. So now I have Spotify and Apple Music. I go through their new releases and recommendations and the recommendations are basically stuff I already know about and own, and the new releases SUCK! I tried hard to get into new stuff and even felt giddy after hearing a track that I liked, only to be let down by the rest of the album.

Has there been any worthwhile good new music out there?

Even releases from established groups have been underwhelming for me. WAsn't feeling the Weezer album, wasn't feeling the Blink 182, nor the Deftones. Any new great Punk, hard, or alt rock???? I tried listening to the next great thing and it sort of felt flat, nothing really made me excited. I still remember listening to the 22-20s, Arctic Monkeys for the first time and going nuts! Nothing new has come close.

[andgar923]

Radiohead was one of the worst possible examples you could have used, it made you look like you know nothing about the music industry

Yeah I don't get why he used Radiohead, when they've changed their sound from album to album. Some albums even change from track to track.:confusedshrug:

Shit, that's what they're known for to some extent.

[gigantes]

Radiohead was one of the worst possible examples you could have used, it made you look like you know nothing about the music industry
and yet what i just said about the music industry is in accord with pretty much everything i've read and observed about it. go figure, huh?

where you probably went wrong is in assuming that i know a lot about radiohead in particular.


@andgar,
i take it you two are pretty strong radiohead fans, and that's cool with me. i can respect them.

i also think you two are assuming some things about my argument which don't actually exist. for example, i didn't 'pick radiohead to make some kind of point about the music industry' or whatever. in fact i'm not a particular fan of their music and don't follow them much. but i happen to hear them from time to time, so that's how that works.

in any case, a lot of successful acts have been very experimental and malleable, which still doesn't change what i said about the music industry. more like-- the experimentation and moving in and out of different styles has to fit in to that context of limits and can indeed make certain things harder on everyone.

anyway, yeah... i'm not particularly impressed with yorke's vocal work on that one song, and i'm not particularly impressed with his range of vocal styles, so far as i've heard. he has far more talent at creating a mood than he does in pure singing ability IMO. but then again, why should my opinion on him matter to anyone?

[gigantes]

david bowie, if you want an example.

[gigantes]

also, i don't think you two are grasping the difference between the amount of range possible in a notoriously experimental and semi-underground genre and any one act in particular.

radiohead could be the most experimental and wide-ranging act in the history of music and they would still have no chance against an entire genre. that's just the way reality works, and not their 'fault' in any way shape or form.

[Bosnian Sajo]

gigantes knows all.