The Reason Lebron got Eliminated by Bogut,Dwight,Duncan,KG,Ben & Tyson in Playoffs

[Big164]

He cant beat BIGs.

Lebron shot a pitiful .439 against Andrew Bogut in the NBA Finals. Lebron would lose in every single era that featured a rim protector of Bogut's level or better.

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[Nilocon165]

I want to here the reason to why wilt can score 100 in a regular season game and can barely crack 10 points in the finals

[ClipperRevival]

I would say there is some truth in your statement in that LeBron did play in a primarily small ball era and didn't have to go up against GOAT level rim protectors outside of Dwight.

But Bogut is a terrible example as he is the same guy who couldn't get on the floor in the 2015 finals (the year GSW won it all) because he wasn't mobile enough for their small ball lineup.

[Annyong!]

Bogut going down in the Finals is not focused on enough. Warriors win with him.

[Big164]

I would say there is some truth in your statement in that LeBron did play in a primarily small ball era and didn't have to go up against GOAT level rim protectors outside of Dwight.

But Bogut is a terrible example as he is the same guy who couldn't get on the floor in the 2015 finals (the year GSW won it all) because he wasn't mobile enough for their small ball lineup.
small-ball lineup was always over rated, that lineup got absolutely shredded by OKC. Bogut was the difference in the OKC series, and in the first 4 games of the Cavs series.

[ClipperRevival]

small-ball lineup was always over rated, that lineup got absolutely shredded by OKC. Bogut was the difference in the OKC series, and in the first 4 games of the Cavs series.

:biggums:

For the first 3 games of the series, he averaged 23.6 mpg and Clev was up 2-1. For the next 3 games, when GSW started their small ball line up and won 3 straight to win the series, he played a TOTAL of 2:46 in the last 3 games, which averages out to less than a minute per game.

So for that series, you are completely wrong. Bogut going out is what helped GSW open things up. But in the 2016 finals, when the NBA had a better chance to adjust to GSW's lineup, Bogut might've mattered more but in 2015, he was more of a liability than an asset.

[tpols]

:biggums:

For the first 3 games of the series, he averaged 23.6 mpg and Clev was up 2-1. For the next 3 games, when GSW started their small ball line up and won 3 straight to win the series, he played a TOTAL of 2:46 in the last 3 games, which averages out to less than a minute per game.

So for that series, you are completely wrong. Bogut going out is what helped GSW open things up. But in the 2016 finals, when the NBA had a better chance to adjust to GSW's lineup, Bogut might've mattered more but in 2015, he was more of a liability than an asset.


it's all about value over replacement. in 2015, the warriors had David Lee, who was feasting when he got his break.. so it ended up working out for them because the replacement was playing at such a high level. in 2016, otoh, there was no solid replacement.. all of golden state's bigs after bogut and dray were god awful, and being picked apart.




overall though, this thread is correct. Elite rim protection is the stonewall to LeBron's game. You take it away, bron knows he will have 5+ easy runs at the rim, potential And 1's, and it allows him to settle into a mental groove with his jumper knowing such opportunities will pop up all game long. When that safety valve is shut off, however, he has nothing to lean back on, and is pressured to make jumpers w/o the assurance that if they dont go in easier opportunities will still come.