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Dray n Klay
09-22-2016, 11:09 AM
Malone's career ppg average is 25.0, Kobes career ppg average is 24.99




Malone ended with 36000 career points, Kobe ended with 33000 career points




Malone shot 51.6% from the field, Kobe shot 45% from the field





Basically all signs point to Malone being a better and more impactful scorer than Kobe :confusedshrug:

lilteapot
09-22-2016, 11:12 AM
no

JT123
09-22-2016, 11:31 AM
Yes he was, and much more efficient as well.

stalkerforlife
09-22-2016, 11:52 AM
:roll:

Bird fed vs the actual BIRD.

You youngsters are something else.

LostCause
09-22-2016, 06:10 PM
IP Ban?

Smoke117
09-22-2016, 06:27 PM
:roll:

Bird fed vs the actual BIRD.

You youngsters are something else.

You don't have a career average of 25ppg because you are bird fed. You are also the last person that should be calling out "youngsters" over their basketball knowledge you fruitcake.

Round Mound
09-22-2016, 08:36 PM
Yes

SouBeachTalents
09-22-2016, 08:53 PM
In the playoffs

Kobe: 25.6 ppg on .541% TS, 5640 total points in 200 starts
Malone: 24.7 ppg on .526% TS, 4761 total points in 193 starts

bigkingsfan
09-22-2016, 08:59 PM
Malone is 8-1 in the playoffs VS Kobe/Shaq :eek:

BedroomBully
09-22-2016, 09:29 PM
Who is higher on the all-time scoring list? /Thread.

GrapeApe
09-22-2016, 09:36 PM
In the playoffs

Kobe: 25.6 ppg on .541% TS, 5640 total points in 200 starts
Malone: 24.7 ppg on .526% TS, 4761 total points in 193 starts

But, but, 24.99. :oldlol:

In all seriousness though, it's hard to argue that Malone was a better scorer when Kobe has the edge in ppg, efficiency, and total points in the playoffs.

34-24 Footwork
09-22-2016, 09:37 PM
Yeah. All the facts are on the side of Karl Malone.

NBAGOAT
09-22-2016, 10:07 PM
The numbers are actually really close. I will steal a post from realGM on a similar malone vs kobe thread. Ill look at 2000-13 for kobe and 88-01 for Malone for their primes and its convenient since both are 14 years.. What Kobe did in 97 or 98 or Malone did in 04 just isnt that relevant.

RS Malone 27.0ppg 58.0ts% Kobe 27.8ppg 55.6ts%
Playoffs Malone 27.0ppg 53.2ts% Kobe 27.7ppg 54.3%

So both guys have no dropoff ppg wise but malone has a big dropoff efficiency wise while Kobe has a pretty small dropoff. Kobe is a better scorer imo however and clearly. Most people including me dont give Malone complete credit for his numbers because of the Utah system, his meh scoring skillset, and dropoff in the playoffs. If we did, Malones 31ppg season would be mentioned with some other great scoring seasons ever but its never mentioned.

34-24 Footwork
09-22-2016, 10:18 PM
4th Quarter....10 seconds left...down 2 points...Kobe or Karl Malone isolation.

Who you got?

The coach wold draw up the play IMMEDIATELY for the Mailman. No questions asked.

Dray n Klay
09-22-2016, 10:20 PM
4th Quarter....10 seconds left...down 2 points...Kobe or Karl Malone isolation.

Who you got?



4th quarter ... 10 seconds left.. down 2 points, will you give the ball to Brandon Jennings or Shaq?



That settles it, Jennings > Shaq as a scorer

Dray n Klay
09-22-2016, 10:20 PM
BTW Kobe has BY FAR the most missed gamewinners in NBA History

G-train
09-22-2016, 10:43 PM
4th Quarter....10 seconds left...down 2 points...Kobe or Karl Malone isolation.

Who you got?

The coach wold draw up the play IMMEDIATELY for the Mailman. No questions asked.

100% Kobe in my book.

Was pretty disappointed in Karl under pressure in both Bulls series.

34-24 Footwork
09-22-2016, 11:09 PM
100% Kobe in my book.

Was pretty disappointed in Karl under pressure in both Bulls series.

Without John Stockton holding Malone back, we wouldn't even be having this discuss, imo.

Karl would've racked up another 7,000 points EASILY if Stockton wasn't such a black hole on offense.

Smoke117
09-22-2016, 11:10 PM
Without John Stockton holding Malone back, we wouldn't even be having this discuss, imo.

Karl would've racked up another 7,000 points EASILY if Stockton wasn't such a black hole on offense.

What the **** did I just read? :biggums:

34-24 Footwork
09-22-2016, 11:13 PM
What the **** did I just read? :biggums:


:lol :lol

Dray n Klay
09-22-2016, 11:24 PM
Look at 34-24's avi


Dude stans a player thats not even an all-star :oldlol:

34-24 Footwork
09-22-2016, 11:38 PM
Look at 34-24's avi


Dude stans a player thats not even an all-star :oldlol:

That must be my Duvet!

GrapeApe
09-23-2016, 12:17 AM
Look at 34-24's avi


Dude stans a player thats not even an all-star :oldlol:

He's not just AN all-star, he's a 3x all-star (and an all-star MVP), and he's just 24 years old. Pretty good player to stan actually.

Dray n Klay
09-23-2016, 12:21 AM
He's not just AN all-star, he's a 3x all-star (and an all-star MVP), and he's just 24 years old. Pretty good player to stan actually.

Really? Why wasn't he on the team this year? He was healthy since December, and the All-Star game was in February

G-train
09-23-2016, 12:27 AM
Really? Why wasn't he on the team this year? He was healthy since December, and the All-Star game was in February

Do you think he played like a top 25 player in the playoffs?

Dray n Klay
09-23-2016, 12:28 AM
Do you think he played like a top 25 player in the playoffs?


That's debatable

Human Error
09-23-2016, 12:30 AM
4th Quarter....10 seconds left...down 2 points...Kobe or Karl Malone isolation.

Who you got?

The coach wold draw up the play IMMEDIATELY for the Mailman. No questions asked.
Over a contested fadeaway by Kobe on multiple defenders? Come on man...

SouBeachTalents
09-23-2016, 12:36 AM
That's debatable

:roll: Dude was arguably the 2nd best player in the playoffs last year

34-24 Footwork
09-23-2016, 12:37 AM
Over a contested fadeaway by Kobe on multiple defenders? Come on man...

Agreed. Kobe is probably one of the last players a RESPECTABLE COACH would draw up an isolation play for.

What's strange is that, I've never seen a player hit so many lucky jumpers (approx. 30-36) at the end of games than Kobe Bryant.

He literally just chucks it up and prays it goes in.

JT123
09-23-2016, 12:45 AM
:roll: Dude was arguably the 2nd best player in the playoffs last year
:facepalm

AussieSteve
09-23-2016, 01:16 AM
Kobe always had to create his own shot. Malone was always fed by Stockton. You cannot compare the two with stats.

You could not dispute that Stockton was not worth AT LEAST 1 field goal and 1 trip to the line per game over Malone's career - that's 4ppg. You could also not dispute that fact that Malones FG% would be lower without Stockton constantly giving him good looks.

My vote is on Kobe, by some distance, but it's not really a fair comparison because of the different positions and totally different team dynamics.

GimmeThat
09-23-2016, 02:45 AM
you don't average 5 assists a game while scoring 25+ without knowing how to score more

what exactly is the differentiation of someone who can assist and not score, but one can score more but played the assist role?

the difference between 10% to 25% to 40%, can make you think about growth pattern

since this is really about the word capability

which is the sad truth, why don't people care about differentiating the 70-80 percentile instead of the top 5-10 percentile

it's the same way to prove those believe in genetic inheritance are incorrect