From He to She in First Grade

[UK2K]

Thoughts on turning your 6 year old boy into a girl?

This is that razor thing 'inclusive' thought or....

It's borderline child abuse.

[QUOTE]When our son turned 6, my husband and I bought him a puppet theater and a chest of dress-up clothes because he liked to put on plays. We filled the chest with 20 items from Goodwill, mostly grown-man attire: ties, button-down shirts, a gray pageboy cap and a suit vest.

But we didn

[nathanjizzle]

seems like youre being judgmental. nothing about that says child abuse. please provide more insight on how the child was manipulated into believing he was a she? from the story it seems the child made its own decision naturally. i didnt know you had to be an adult to be gay. teens often know they are gay. and in some cases, kids that havent hit there teens know they are gay.

i think what you are trying to force is the idea that parents should make there kids straight until adulthood? because 18 is the governments standard for a person mature enough to make conscious decisions. so that means teenagers cant come out as gay correct? or it would be considered child abuse on the parents part, correct?

[9erempiree]

seems like youre being judgmental. nothing about that says child abuse. please provide more insight on how the child was manipulated into believing he was a she? from the story it seems the child made its own decision naturally. i didnt know you had to be an adult to be gay.

Clueless.

[CeltsGarlic]

I remember when I was 5-6 maybe less, we did a play and I dressed up stupid as I could and there was a wig, like purple or some flamboyant color and my mom didnt want me to wear and I remember thinking like "wtf Im not homo" or something like that.

[nathanjizzle]

I remember when I was 5-6 maybe less, we did a play and I dressed up stupid as I could and there was a wig, like purple or some flamboyant color and my mom didnt want me to wear and I remember thinking like "wtf Im not homo" or something like that.

thats a good mom, she saved you from being gay.

[9erempiree]

Also, I don't know why doctors are not charged with malpractice when they start mutilating a person's genitalia. :hammerhead:

[Back In Shape]

Meh, if the kid is gay and/or feels like a girl, then they are doing the right thing. Even if the parents are wrong, they are guilty of caring too much. The biggest victim is the kid. Much less worse than raising a kid with no father who goes on to become a criminal, or using the kid to suck up taxpayer funded entitlements.

[~primetime~]

If there was no operation and hormone treatment then who cares.

I'm sure the kid was born gay, pretty common.

Stuff like this is only questionable if they are removing the kids stuff.

[Hawker]

If there was no operation and hormone treatment then who cares.

I'm sure the kid was born gay, pretty common.

Stuff like this is only questionable if they are removing the kids stuff.

Agreed.

Let people go through puberty at least before they start ****ing with their body.

[UK2K]

seems like youre being judgmental. nothing about that says child abuse. please provide more insight on how the child was manipulated into believing he was a she? from the story it seems the child made its own decision naturally. i didnt know you had to be an adult to be gay. teens often know they are gay. and in some cases, kids that havent hit there teens know they are gay.

i think what you are trying to force is the idea that parents should make there kids straight until adulthood? because 18 is the governments standard for a person mature enough to make conscious decisions. so that means teenagers cant come out as gay correct? or it would be considered child abuse on the parents part, correct?

The story written by the kid's mom, yes?

Jared Fogle be writing articles about 'the girl's said they liked it'.

nathanjizzle = 'well the article says they liked it'

[UK2K]

Meh, if the kid is gay and/or feels like a girl, then they are doing the right thing. Even if the parents are wrong, they are guilty of caring too much. The biggest victim is the kid. Much less worse than raising a kid with no father who goes on to become a criminal, or using the kid to suck up taxpayer funded entitlements.

At 6?

If the kid felt like a walrus, would you allow them to jump in the ocean? What if they decide to be a nudist? You support that too? Or no? Where's the line you draw?

They're six years old, they don't know what gay and straight even means.

[Back In Shape]

At 6?

If the kid felt like a walrus, would you allow them to jump in the ocean? What if they decide to be a nudist? You support that too? Or no? Where's the line you draw?

They're six years old, they don't know what gay and straight even means.

At the end of the day, it's their kid and it doesn't really affect anyone else. I wouldn't do it, you wouldn't do it, but these parents feel it's best for their kid. Like I said, there are so many other things that people do with their kids that screw them up, and society accepts as the norm, that not only affect the child but society as well, to worry about. IMO, raising a child without an involved father is worse than this. Raising a kid on entitlements is worse than this. Raising a kid who watches you take mood enhancing drugs, whether legal, illegal, prescription, medicinal, whatever, is worse than this. Raising your kid in a fanatical, fundamentalist religion is worse than this.

We should mind our own business and not be triggered by what other people do with their kids, unless it affects us.

[UK2K]

At the end of the day, it's their kid and it doesn't really affect anyone else. I wouldn't do it, you wouldn't do it, but these parents feel it's best for their kid. Like I said, there are so many other things that people do with their kids that screw them up, and society accepts as the norm, that not only affect the child but society as well, to worry about. IMO, raising a child without an involved father is worse than this. Raising a kid on entitlements is worse than this. Raising a kid who watches you take mood enhancing drugs, whether legal, illegal, prescription, medicinal, whatever, is worse than this. Raising your kid in a fanatical, fundamentalist religion is worse than this.

We should mind our own business and not be triggered by what other people do with their kids, unless it affects us.

Right, so at what point does it go from 'their kid' to illegal?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/followers-of-christ-idaho-religious-sect-child-mortality-refusing-medical-help

That's also their kid and we should mind our business, which is how it ended up on the front page of the Guardian.

[Patrick Chewing]

People who want to change their gender have a mental disorder.

[UK2K]

People who want to change their gender have a mental disorder.
Already been established long ago...

[macmac]

It's too early to tell. We need to do case studies on all these cases and see how they feel in adulthood and if they have regrets or feel mislead and abused. It's really grey area and tough to call.

If they really do feel so strongly about it better at a young age and before puberty since it will make their transition easier. But doing it too early on a kid's whim can be devastating.

[UK2K]

It's too early to tell. We need to do case studies on all these cases and see how they feel in adulthood and if they have regrets or feel mislead and abused. It's really grey area and tough to call.

If they really do feel so strongly about it better at a young age and before puberty since it will make their transition easier. But doing it too early on a kid's whim can be devastating.

My thoughts exactly...

It's one thing to accept the change, its another to actively encourage it.

Kids at age 6 don't know what gay is. They don't know who they're attracted to.

Is it legal to brainwash your kid into being a neo-nazi? Because that's the first thing that came to my mind when I read this article... you are pushing the kid into one direction at a young age. By the time they are a teenager, the message is so ingrained in their behavior there's no reversing it.

[~primetime~]

There was a kid in my elementary that was CLEARLY gay at birth. As soon as we knew what gay was, we knew he was gay. He was flamboyant as fck right out of the womb .


I'm thinking the # of boys that INSIST on wearing dresses to school who end up straight is close to ZERO. I'm sure there are plenty of straight males that fcked around with their moms clothes or make up a couple times when they were little, but that is not what this is, at all. He identifies as female because he was born that way.

[~primetime~]

In fact, I'm sure if we saw video footage of this little kid talking, and his mannerisms it would be clear as day this little boy was born gay. It's probably obvious as hell to his parents too, which is why they don't care to fight his wishes.

[DonDadda59]

There was a kid in my elementary that was CLEARLY gay at birth. As soon as we knew what gay was, we knew he was gay. He was flamboyant as fck right out of the womb .


Same. Everyone knew he was gay before we all knew what that really meant. He used to play hopscotch with the girls when the boys played ball. Lo and behold, I see him on facebook many years later and he has a boyfriend and a shitzu. :oldlol:

But I think that you should be at least 18/legally an adult before any sort of procedures are done on you, then after that- do whatever makes you happy.

[Back In Shape]

#mindyourownbusiness

[TommyGriffin]

One of the most absurd and phony stories I have ever heard. :oldlol:

[UK2K]

One of the most absurd and phony stories I have ever heard. :oldlol:

Shit the NYTimes puts out these days... SMH

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/fashion/modern-love-transgender-child-identity-parenting.html?_r=2