Cavs guard Mo Williams is retiring

[lilteapot]

Jason Lloyd
‏@JasonLloydABJ
Cavs GM David Griffin said Mo Williams' agent has informed the team he is retiring

[Doranku]

Didn't he just say the other day he was coming back for one more year?

[BigKAT]

That's not the best news for a team that let Delly go in free agency.

JR still isn't locked up and I'm not sure what to make of Shumpert.

They need some quality guards.

[lilteapot]

That's not the best news for a team that let Delly go in free agency.

JR still isn't locked up and I'm not sure what to make of Shumpert.

They need some quality guards.

They screwed up letting Delly go.

Shumpert is garbage and expendable. They need JR Smith (WOW, did I just say that)

[egokiller]

Delly, a well conditioned athlete over 75% of the NBA once had to be hospitalized after covering Curry. That's how much effort he plays with. You don't just let a talent like that go. Is Danny Ferry back to making front office decisions again for the Cavs cause this sounds like something he would do.

[BigKAT]

Delly, a well conditioned athlete over 75% of the NBA once had to be hospitalized after covering Curry. That's how much effort he plays with. You don't just let a talent like that go. Is Danny Ferry back to making front office decisions again for the Cavs cause this sounds like something he would do.

Kinda reminds me of the 2014 Heat.
They let miller go, despite him being really valued member of that team and locker room. Even if his contributions declined. Ended up with having Rashed Lewis their 4th best player in the playoffs, and we saw what happened in the Finals.

Continuity is what brought them this chip. But yeah, Delly and Mozgov weren't going to stay for that price, and it's really a budget thing.

[OmniStrife]

That's rather odd.
Wasn't he still rather productive for his age / role?

[raprap]

I'm not sure if Felder is ready for rotation minutes in the playoffs. We'll see tho, Sam Cassell played great as a rookie in the post season.. Norris Cole too.

[bdreason]

Game. Set. Match.

[LilEddyCurry]

Four GOATs retiring in one season :eek:

[HylianNightmare]

Damn, go out a champ though

[Lebron23]

It's Felder time. Mo Can still play. Love to see him reconsider his retirement.

[Jasper]

HOF bucks jersey

[D-Wait]

http://media.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/photo/andre-millerjpg-5fdcf139ead89c69.jpg

Time to bring him home!

[El Gato Negro]

Not sure why people are overreacting, neither Delly nor Mo contributed anything in the playoffs last year. The cavs also got a trade exception from Delly and Griff is a wizards with trades. Mo has been working with feldor all offseason, ya he was a 2nd round pic but the kid has crazy college numbers. People also seem to forget the cavs signed Delly off the streets he didn't even get drafted. Mo's knee was done anyways.

[DukeDelonte13]

They screwed up letting Delly go.

Shumpert is garbage and expendable. They need JR Smith (WOW, did I just say that)


Cavs were and still are over the cap. They could not afford to keep him. Sad to see him go but it just wasn't in the cards.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Four GOATs retiring in one season :eek:

:eek:

[ErhnamDjinn]

wow I thought he was like 36 or 37 dudes only 33, does he have lots of injuries/mileage?

[D-Wait]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/243437/Cavs-Interested-In-Norris-Cole-Mario-Chalmers-Kirk-Hinrich

Cavs interested in Norris Cole, Mario Chalmers and Kirk Hinrich...

Not sure who I would want out of the three tbh, but good to see the Cavs addressing the need for a backup PG right away....

[RRR3]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/243437/Cavs-Interested-In-Norris-Cole-Mario-Chalmers-Kirk-Hinrich

Cavs interested in Norris Cole, Mario Chalmers and Kirk Hinrich...

Not sure who I would want out of the three tbh, but good to see the Cavs addressing the need for a backup PG right away....
Um....Chalmers clearly. Hinrich is done and Cole is trash. Chalmers averaged 10+ Ppg off the bench last year and per 36 minutes he was around 17/6 IIRC

[Proctor]

Um....Chalmers clearly. Hinrich is done and Cole is trash. Chalmers averaged 10+ Ppg off the bench last year and per 36 minutes he was around 17/6 IIRC
:facepalm

[HurricaneKid]

Um....Chalmers clearly. Hinrich is done and Cole is trash. Chalmers averaged 10+ Ppg off the bench last year and per 36 minutes he was around 17/6 IIRC

He also tore his Achilles at the end of the year and that is an injury that will be slowing him at the beginning of NEXT season.

[RRR3]

:facepalm
What the hell are you facepalming at?

Hinrich is going to be 36 in Janauary, and just came off a season in which he averaged an incredible 3 PPG on 38% shooting. He hasn't shot above 40% since 2012.

Cole averaged 10.6 PPG last year....on 10.8 shots per game. For comparison, Chalmers scored 10.3 PPG on only 7.3 shots per game, because he actually is somewhat efficient.


None of the three played a ton of minutes last year (22.5 MPG for Chalmers, 26.6 for Cole, and 13.7 for Hinrich) but here are their stats Per 36 minutes


Chalmers: 16.5 PTS, 4.1 REB, 6.0 AST, 2.3 STL, 0.3 BLK, 2.9 TOV, 56.1 TS%

Cole: 14.3 PTS, 4.5 REB, 5.0 AST, 1.1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 2.3 TOV, 46.5 TS%

Hinrich: 7.8 PTS, 4.0 REB, 4.2 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.1 BLK, 1.7 TOV, 50.4 TS%






This isn't even close :oldlol: Chalmers also destroys those two in advanced stats from last season. Sure Hinrich was better than Chalmers a long time ago. It's not 2006, though, and Cole is just poop.



@HurricaneKid, Aware of his injury, he's just worth the risk in comparison to the other two given that he's capable of more if he returns at the same level.

[Proctor]

What the hell are you facepalming at?

Hinrich is going to be 36 in Janauary, and just came off a season in which he averaged an incredible 3 PPG on 38% shooting. He hasn't shot above 40% since 2012.

Cole averaged 10.6 PPG last year....on 10.8 shots per game. For comparison, Chalmers scored 10.3 PPG on only 7.3 shots per game, because he actually is somewhat efficient.


None of the three played a ton of minutes last year (22.5 MPG for Chalmers, 26.6 for Cole, and 13.7 for Hinrich) but here are their stats Per 36 minutes


Chalmers: 16.5 PTS, 4.1 REB, 6.0 AST, 2.3 STL, 0.3 BLK, 2.9 TOV, 56.1 TS%

Cole: 14.3 PTS, 4.5 REB, 5.0 AST, 1.1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 2.3 TOV, 46.5 TS%

Hinrich: 7.8 PTS, 4.0 REB, 4.2 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.1 BLK, 1.7 TOV, 50.4 TS%






This isn't even close :oldlol: Chalmers also destroys those two in advanced stats from last season. Sure Hinrich was better than Chalmers a long time ago. It's not 2006, though, and Cole is just poop.



@HurricaneKid, Aware of his injury, he's just worth the risk in comparison to the other two given that he's capable of more if he returns at the same level.
As if analyzing the stats of Hinrich, who would be a THIRD STRING point-guard on the Cavaliers was worth your time. :biggums: He's old but for the role he would be filling, he just needs to not screw up. He's just like Andre Miller in the sense they just play the game correctly.

My bold had nothing to do with Chalmers (so your comparisons are a waste of time) and everything to do with the fact you dismissed Hinrich's ability to function well for the team in the capacity of a third string PG, and the fact you seem to somehow think Cole is trash. I like Chalmers too but to diminish a productive, quality guard to prop up a guard on the same tier as him who is coming off of an achilles rupture is a bit odd. Then again, you are a shameless Chalmers stan.

[RRR3]

As if analyzing the stats of Hinrich, who would be a THIRD STRING point-guard on the Cavaliers was worth your time. :biggums: He's old but for the role he would be filling, he just needs to not screw up. He's just like Andre Miller in the sense they just play the game correctly.

My bold had nothing to do with Chalmers (so your comparisons are a waste of time) and everything to do with the fact you dismissed Hinrich's ability to function well for the team in the capacity of a third string PG, and the fact you seem to somehow think Cole is trash. I like Chalmers too but to diminish a productive, quality guard to prop up a guard on the same tier as him who is coming off of an achilles rupture is a bit odd. Then again, you are a shameless Chalmers stan.
Chalmers wouldn't be third string, I'm pretty sure he can outplay a 5'9 2nd round rookie.

[Proctor]

Chalmers wouldn't be third string, I'm pretty sure he can outplay a 5'9 2nd round rookie.
I'm referring to Hinrich. Cole and Chalmers would both be 2nd.