Told you Trump was going to win the debate....

[9erempiree]

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/780597822781468673

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780598620500393984

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

People probably watched it again and saw her deflecting.

Solid performance.

Just officially won the Drudge poll....very hard to comeback from that.

http://drudgereport.com/flashnyd.htm

Fortune

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE

Some liberal site

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

More polls are coming in.....

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/09/26/who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780591168916754432

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/RPPNoticias/status/780568475731390464

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360?lang=en

https://twitter.com/pzf/status/780598058161610752

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/297924-poll-who-won-the-debate

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697

https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/780597883481489408

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/who_won_debate_trump_clinton_poll_live_presidentia l.html

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=WON%20THE%20DEBATE&src=typd

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

https://twitter.com/LoneVaultWander/status/780597199172345860?s=09

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780597916549382145

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880

http://www.roanoke.com/news/columns_and_blogs/blogs/times_square/polls/clinton-vs-trump-who-won-the-presidential-debate/article_244870b5-2fe9-5287-8009-8909ec8d677b.html

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697

http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/survey_who_won_the_first_clinton-trump_2016_presidential_debate.html

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/26/polls-polls-polls-ok-who-won-the-debate/

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/sep/26/poll-who-will-win-tonights-clinton-trump-debate/

http://www.shelbystar.com/zz/elections/20160926/poll-who-won-first-clinton-trump-debate

https://twitter.com/ElNuevoDia/status/780598511100309506

https://twitter.com/VeronicaDLCruz/status/780600951153364992

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/780600866411646976

https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/780602062354649088

https://twitter.com/enoreikaTV/status/780597902125178880

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/26/cbsnewyork-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/polls/2016/sep/26/who-won-first-presidential-debate/results/

http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/09/take-our-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-2016-presidential-debates/

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/who_won_debate_trump_clinton_poll_live_presidentia l.html

https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/780598076599898112

https://twitter.com/HilaryClintin/status/780599616513474562

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-le-poll-debate-trump-clinton-20160926-story.html

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/politics/national-politics/poll-hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-whos-winning-the-debate/326409462

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/first_presidential_debate_of_2016_who_won_vote_in_ our_poll.html

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

https://twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/780597554148933632

https://twitter.com/RonicaCleary/status/780597813683982336

http://therightscoop.com/poll-who-won-tonights-presidential-debate-at-hofstra-hillary-or-trump/

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/reader-poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-first-presidential/poll_2b25f16b-d790-53d1-a457-13c05f4737e0.html

http://www.kitv.com/story/33253266/poll-in-your-opinion-who-won-the-2016-presidential-debate#WNPoll153426

https://twitter.com/WSJPolitics/status/780597562843594752

[Back In Shape]

I hate Hillary. I don't like Trump either. I will be voting for him anyway. But dude, he got soundly beat to anyone who was paying attention. He held his own on trade and got a few good punches in to the point the crowd started to turn to his favor at the end, but yeah....no way he won.

[9erempiree]

I disagree.

He answered every question and defended every accusation. He won because he cleared the air about all those accusations about him.

Remember this is an election with two candidates having one of the baddest approval ratings in history.

First debate in a situation where your approval rating is crap is to show that you are sincere, honest and have morals. Clinton was too scripted for the public to change their mind about her.

The landslide will come and he reassured the outsider vs. insider narrative. Something that I though he lost as the campaign is coming to a close. Glad to see it back in full force.

[ILLsmak]

I hate Hillary. I don't like Trump either. I will be voting for him anyway. But dude, he got soundly beat to anyone who was paying attention. He held his own on trade and got a few good punches in to the point the crowd started to turn to his favor at the end, but yeah....no way he won.


depends on how they were judging. In terms of looking at it like a presidential debate, yea he lost, but who knows what sort of lens people judge Trump through.

He's coming out of left field. He also kinda played the nice guy and said he didn't go out slinging mud at her, and maybe next time he can come back and be really serious and hit all of her weak points like she did his. Who knows.

-Smak

[TheMan]

I hate Hillary. I don't like Trump either. I will be voting for him anyway. But dude, he got soundly beat to anyone who was paying attention. He held his own on trade and got a few good punches in to the point the crowd started to turn to his favor at the end, but yeah....no way he won.
This

He started strong but he started to rant unintelligeably and he legit looked pissed.

[9erempiree]

depends on how they were judging. In terms of looking at it like a presidential debate, yea he lost, but who knows what sort of lens people judge Trump through.

He's coming out of left field. He also kinda played the nice guy and said he didn't go out slinging mud at her, and maybe next time he can come back and be really serious and hit all of her weak points like she did his. Who knows.

-Smak

That's the point and I agree. He came out looking like the good guy especially in the end when he said her campaign was spending hundreds of millions of dollars to attack him and he didn't want to attack her on her character but rather her policies.

I'm telling you....people want to see things differently but this is an election where they have poor approval ratings and you have to start looking like the good guy.

Trump did that tonight.

You cannot attack your opponent when the public disapproves of you. I don't know who told Clinton to do that. Plus the more she was on television the more cringe it got.

[Terahite]

I hate Hillary. I don't like Trump either. I will be voting for him anyway. But dude, he got soundly beat to anyone who was paying attention. He held his own on trade and got a few good punches in to the point the crowd started to turn to his favor at the end, but yeah....no way he won.

Tell us why Trump lost stupid. All you did was compliment him. :lol

Sounds like you are just parroting the "he started out strong but fumbled" meme of the night like the low-IQ dummy you are.

[TheMan]

Tell us why Trump lost stupid. All you did was compliment him. :lol

Sounds like you are just parroting the "he started out strong but fumbled" meme of the night like the low-IQ dummy you are.
Count thy minutes, pal :cheers:

[9erempiree]

These are just coming in....even Slate has him winning.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/first_presidential_debate_of_2016_who_won_vote_in_ our_poll.html

Told you guys you don't want to attack on the first debate. You have to show the public you are a good guy and likable. Remember these two have horrible approval ratings.

[Back In Shape]

Tell us why Trump lost stupid. All you did was compliment him. :lol

Sounds like you are just parroting the "he started out strong but fumbled" meme of the night like the low-IQ dummy you are.

Enough with the anger and dumb Rush Limbaugh "low IQ" stuff. It's crap like that which makes it hard to stomach voting Republican sometimes.

[9erempiree]

Why Arizona will be red....a local newspaper poll there....

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/reader-poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-first-presidential/poll_2b25f16b-d790-53d1-a457-13c05f4737e0.html

Getting killed on MSNBC's poll.....

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-hillary-2016#56789

[Terahite]

Getting killed on MSNBC's poll.....

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-hillary-2016#56789

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

Brutal. :lol

Must be Russian hacking the polls. :roll:

[FillJackson]

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/780597822781468673

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780598620500393984

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

People probably watched it again and saw her deflecting.

Solid performance.

Just officially won the Drudge poll....very hard to comeback from that.

http://drudgereport.com/flashnyd.htm

Fortune

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE

Some liberal site

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

More polls are coming in.....

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/09/26/who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780591168916754432

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/

https://twitter.com/RPPNoticias/status/780568475731390464

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360?lang=en

https://twitter.com/pzf/status/780598058161610752

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/297924-poll-who-won-the-debate

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697

https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/780597883481489408

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/who_won_debate_trump_clinton_poll_live_presidentia l.html

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=WON%20THE%20DEBATE&src=typd

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

https://twitter.com/LoneVaultWander/status/780597199172345860?s=09

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780597916549382145

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880

http://www.roanoke.com/news/columns_and_blogs/blogs/times_square/polls/clinton-vs-trump-who-won-the-presidential-debate/article_244870b5-2fe9-5287-8009-8909ec8d677b.html

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697

http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/survey_who_won_the_first_clinton-trump_2016_presidential_debate.html

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/26/polls-polls-polls-ok-who-won-the-debate/

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/sep/26/poll-who-will-win-tonights-clinton-trump-debate/

http://www.shelbystar.com/zz/elections/20160926/poll-who-won-first-clinton-trump-debate

https://twitter.com/ElNuevoDia/status/780598511100309506

https://twitter.com/VeronicaDLCruz/status/780600951153364992

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/780600866411646976

https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/780602062354649088

https://twitter.com/enoreikaTV/status/780597902125178880

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/26/cbsnewyork-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/polls/2016/sep/26/who-won-first-presidential-debate/results/

http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/09/take-our-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-2016-presidential-debates/

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/who_won_debate_trump_clinton_poll_live_presidentia l.html

https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/780598076599898112

https://twitter.com/HilaryClintin/status/780599616513474562

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-le-poll-debate-trump-clinton-20160926-story.html

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/politics/national-politics/poll-hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-whos-winning-the-debate/326409462

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/first_presidential_debate_of_2016_who_won_vote_in_ our_poll.html

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

https://twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/780597554148933632

https://twitter.com/RonicaCleary/status/780597813683982336

http://therightscoop.com/poll-who-won-tonights-presidential-debate-at-hofstra-hillary-or-trump/

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/reader-poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-first-presidential/poll_2b25f16b-d790-53d1-a457-13c05f4737e0.html

http://www.kitv.com/story/33253266/poll-in-your-opinion-who-won-the-2016-presidential-debate#WNPoll153426

https://twitter.com/WSJPolitics/status/780597562843594752

Biggest meltdown of 2016.

[TheMan]

Why Arizona will be red....a local newspaper poll there....

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/reader-poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-first-presidential/poll_2b25f16b-d790-53d1-a457-13c05f4737e0.html

Getting killed on MSNBC's poll.....

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-hillary-2016#56789
Dude, stop, you're embarrassing yourself

[highwhey]

Why Arizona will be red....a local newspaper poll there....

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/reader-poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-first-presidential/poll_2b25f16b-d790-53d1-a457-13c05f4737e0.html

Getting killed on MSNBC's poll.....

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-hillary-2016#56789
Arizona has been red forever dumbass. The poll is extremely biased because this state has a majority of voters who are and have been voting Republican.

[TheMan]

Biggest meltdown of 2016.
Yup

Like he's trying to convince himself more than anything...

Sad

:(

[9erempiree]

Dude, stop, you're embarrassing yourself

I already gave my reasons on why he won.

These polls are just coming in.

:banana: I thought he would blow her out but some polls have them even and some have him as much as 50 points but those are pretty bias though.

[Terahite]

All the polls except Clinton News Network have Trump winning the debate. :cheers:

You ******s should be happy you came in second. :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

All the polls except Clinton News Network have Trump winning the debate. :cheers:

You ******s should be happy you came in second. :oldlol:
show me a poll that's not an online one and actually an official, organized poll. legit curious.

[Terahite]

show me a poll that's not an online one and actually an official, organized poll. legit curious.

All I have is a computer, bro. Where else should I check for a poll at this hour? The debate just ended.

[dude77]

nevermind misread the chart .. yes getting killed .. 84% won't vote for her yikes

[Terahite]

nevermind misread the chart .. yes getting killed .. 84% won't vote for her yikes

Yeah the graph is pretty misleading. You have to click on the random colors to figure out what they represent, when they could've just labelled the graphic. Obviously they are very shook right now.

[TommyGriffin]

Terhite is a beta male.

[TheMan]

I guarantee that the national polls taken after this debate will show a significant shift towards HC.

She'll be up by at least 5% a week from now.

[Jameerthefear]

All I have is a computer, bro. Where else should I check for a poll at this hour? The debate just ended.
o so u have nothing. cool

[9erempiree]

People tend to forget that Trump and Hillary should be repairing their image. I think Trump is winning because people he came out looking as a good guy.

He never attacked Hillary personally or attacked her character. He did attack her on her policy. I think this was nicely orchestrated by the Trump campaign. Hillary was on the attack, rude and smug. We can all admit to that. I think the general public saw the same as I did. Hence the polls.

Trump also had an opportunity to lay out his policies which was very good in my opinion. He did a lot to fix his image tonight.

Remember this is not the primaries and if this is indication of the primaries then expect a full blown assault on Clinton.

First debate is to test and see what works especially when both candidates have poor ratings. They need to start fixing their image.

[Terahite]

o so u have nothing. cool

All we have now are the online polls, which show you lost. How does it feel stupid?

[Jameerthefear]

All we have now are the online polls, which show you lost. How does it feel stupid?
No, CNN has done polls for the debate. I think NBC and FoxNews as well.

[bladefd]

No, CNN has done polls for the debate. I think NBC and FoxNews as well.

Trump was smashed in polls done by CNN/NBC. Even Foxnews polls showed he lost the debate. I cannot believe 9er or terahite or anyone would think Trump won that. These Trump boys are difficult to argue with being in their own little worlds :facepalm

Only area Trump won was on trade. Yes, he was correct about the trade deals and he was correct about the emails. Hillary once again apologized about the emails. Where was Trump's apology on being wrong about the birther movement? Not once did he admit he was wrong about it. Other than that, Trump was disillusioned and rambling on and on most of the night.

Just wait for the new polls in coming days. They will hurt Trump. 9er, you can quote me on this in the coming days when Trump drops in the polls. They are pretty much dead even right now. Not for long.

[9erempiree]

He just won Variety's polls.

[9erempiree]

Trump was smashed in polls done by CNN/NBC. Even Foxnews polls showed he lost the debate. I cannot believe 9er or terahite or anyone would think Trump won that. These Trump boys are difficult to argue with being in their own little worlds :facepalm

Only area Trump won was on trade. Yes, he was correct about the trade deals and he was correct about the emails. Hillary once again apologized about the emails. Where was Trump's apology on being wrong about the birther movement? Not once did he admit he was wrong about it. Other than that, Trump was disillusioned and rambling on and on most of the night.

Just wait for the new polls in coming days. They will hurt Trump. 9er, you can quote me on this in the coming days when Trump drops in the polls. They are pretty much dead even right now. Not for long.

Bro...you're a Bernie supporter and you can't even watch the debate objectively. Do you know these two candidates have the lowest approval ratings in history?

This debate isn't judged on who gets attacked the most. It's about who did the better job to repair their horrible ratings. Notice how Trump never attacked Clinton till Clinton started attacking him? This doesn't help her image and she also called law enforcement racists. That was low.

You already said Trump laid out a good economic and trade policy plan but yet to give any credit as to which policy Hillary is going to benefit America with. Your credit to her is 'apologizing' for the servers? Come on bro...you are smarter than that.

So if you were to break down the debate objectively....Trump beat her. He came out of there as a good guy when people expected him to be the mud throwing bad guy. He changed the people's perception of him. Look at the polls I linked.

Hillary? Same old Hillary. Smug, rude and arrogant. As usual, I am more disappointed with her campaign for going this route.

[9erempiree]

Just won The Hills poll....85k people

Trump 59%

Clinton 36%

Reminiscent of the primaries.

I expect Trump's approval rating to rise after tonight. He did a great job of changing his public perception tonight and that was the goal of the campaign for this debate.


CNBC...400k

Trump 61%
Clinton 39%

[dude77]

yes it turned out to be a good move withholding the comments about bill clinton

[9erempiree]

The theme going into tonight's debate was to change the public's perception about you and I think Trump did that nicely. With low approval ratings...you want to increase favorability ratings and I think he did that by counter punching rather than knocking her out.

She used up all the dirt on Trump.

Trump will use the heavy stuff later on.

:applause:

[bladefd]

You already said Trump laid out a good economic and trade policy plan but yet to give any credit as to which policy Hillary is going to benefit America with. Your credit to her is 'apologizing' for the servers? Come on bro...you are smarter than that.

I said trade policy but never once economy. Trump's economic plans are laughable. Those massive tax cuts - largest since Reagan cuts in 80s.. That will take out massive portion of the revenue out of the US. Folks like Trump are already not paying taxes so what the hell is it going to do to further expand on cutting taxes further when we cannot afford to lose even more revenue?

Also while he is right about the trade policy stuff, he does NOT have an alternative plan.. There is no way America can compete with the $2-5 a day salaries overseas. Our best bet is to invest in technology and/or even invest in infrastructure to bring in + reel in Information sector jobs along with clean energy in creating solar panels, etc here. That can be exported for very good money.. Forget about manufacturing small stuff like shoes, clothes, etc - we cannot compete with china/india/etc over those smaller things. We have to focus on things like technology that cannot be manufactured for cheap without high education. Science, technology, engineering, etc will be what will make the most money. Not damn shoes or whatever that some uneducated guy can put together off-seas in 2-3 hours..

Trump is also completely disillusioned on his foreign policy.

[1987_Lakers]

Just saw the debate, anyone who thinks Trump won is an idiot, dude made a fool of himself & Hillary had him flustered all night.

[9erempiree]

Also while he is right about the trade policy stuff, he does NOT have an alternative plan.. There is no way America can compete with the $2-5 a day salaries overseas. Our best bet is to invest in technology and/or even invest in infrastructure to bring in + reel in Information sector jobs along with clean energy in creating solar panels, etc here. That can be exported for very good money.. Forget about manufacturing small stuff like shoes, clothes, etc - we cannot compete with china/india/etc over those smaller things. We have to focus on things like technology that cannot be manufactured for cheap without high education. Science, technology, engineering, etc will be what will make the most money. Not damn shoes or whatever that some uneducated guy can put together off-seas in 2-3 hours..

Trump is also completely disillusioned on his foreign policy.

What do you think he was talking about...Nike? Tennis shoes?

His whole thing about jobs leaving are actual companies like Carrier and Ford. One is an air conditioning company and the other is a car company. These jobs need skills.

He is the only candidate that talks about infrastructure. Hence the Dubai airport comment and the beautiful bridges and roads outside the USA. Bro...he's the only one talking about what you are referring to. It's actually one of his main platforms. New infrastructure will lead to new jobs. Putting people to work.

One of his biggest thing...I believe it was one of his policy speeches, is that he wanted to get rid of common core and he want the states to implement a curriculum so they can learn more about computer engineering. He even made mention of how advanced Korea's young population are in computers.

His foreign policy is just fine. Way better than the other candidate.

Anyways, it's funny that all those things you mentioned....Trump has talked about them. :rockon:

I do agree with everything you mentioned and that is why I am voting for Trump.

[NumberSix]

Just won The Hills poll....85k people

Trump 59%

Clinton 36%

Reminiscent of the primaries.

I expect Trump's approval rating to rise after tonight. He did a great job of changing his public perception tonight and that was the goal of the campaign for this debate.


CNBC...400k

Trump 61%
Clinton 39%
Yeah but, the CNN poll of 521 people says Clinton won.

[Springsteen]

Trump supporters brigading online polls to damage control, hillarious.

[senelcoolidge]

I don't think Trump won outright. Neither did Hillary. Superficially it looks like Hillary dominated..I guess..but she didn't. It's really more like a tie. Remember this is only the first debate. We've seen the best of Hillary..not the best of Trump.

[Nick Young]

I don't think Trump won outright. Neither did Hillary. Superficially it looks like Hillary dominated..I guess..but she didn't. It's really more like a tie. Remember this is only the first debate. We've seen the best of Hillary..not the best of Trump.
In terms of public perception, Hillary lost, going by the online polls and opinions of hundreds of thousands of people.

Lester Holt acting as the third debater and playing hardball with Trump while throwing softies and scripted set-up questions at Hillary backfired. It seems like the people saw through the act and overwhelmingly didn't like it.

[bladefd]

I don't think Trump won outright. Neither did Hillary. Superficially it looks like Hillary dominated..I guess..but she didn't. It's really more like a tie. Remember this is only the first debate. We've seen the best of Hillary..not the best of Trump.

Best of Trump will be bringing up Bill's transgressions. He has nothing else left. Maybe more attacks on the DNC being corrupt, but he already brought it up. Benghazi is just a junk argument, emails Hillary apologized so there is not much more damage Trump can do there. He can bring up her tendencies as a war hawk, which can get him a few points. Bring up trade again.

That's it.

[Nick Young]

I said trade policy but never once economy. Trump's economic plans are laughable. Those massive tax cuts - largest since Reagan cuts in 80s.. That will take out massive portion of the revenue out of the US. Folks like Trump are already not paying taxes so what the hell is it going to do to further expand on cutting taxes further when we cannot afford to lose even more revenue?

Also while he is right about the trade policy stuff, he does NOT have an alternative plan.. There is no way America can compete with the $2-5 a day salaries overseas. Our best bet is to invest in technology and/or even invest in infrastructure to bring in + reel in Information sector jobs along with clean energy in creating solar panels, etc here. That can be exported for very good money.. Forget about manufacturing small stuff like shoes, clothes, etc - we cannot compete with china/india/etc over those smaller things. We have to focus on things like technology that cannot be manufactured for cheap without high education. Science, technology, engineering, etc will be what will make the most money. Not damn shoes or whatever that some uneducated guy can put together off-seas in 2-3 hours..

Trump is also completely disillusioned on his foreign policy.
Have you forgotten about the economic prosperity that America experienced in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan?

What are they teaching kids in history books these days?:hammerhead:

[bladefd]

Have you forgotten about the economic prosperity that America experienced in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan?

What are they teaching kids in history books these days?:hammerhead:

Was there not a recession in 82? 1yr after Reagan took office? We forget that, huh? Sure, 83 and into 90 was very nice boom. 87 also had a stock market crash.

Lets also not forget that spending began to soar at the same time and trade deficit began to explode. HUUUUUUUUGE spending increases on the military. Lets not forget Reagan was also cutting social programs at the same time. The tax cuts also helped the wealthy more than anyone on the basis of 'trickle-down economics'.. trickle down, it did not :lol

[ILLsmak]

Lester Holt acting as the third debater and playing hardball with Trump while throwing softies and scripted set-up questions at Hillary backfired. It seems like the people saw through the act and overwhelmingly didn't like it.

Yea that was definitely interesting. I was reading some BBC thing about it and they definitely saw it.

I don't believe the polls though, but it'll be interesting to see what the numbers look like in terms of 'who are you voting for' after this. If Trump is ahead then, you can say the public saw that, but... the same people who can't even stop cheering when they are told to not cheer, I don't think they perceive much that isn't spoon fed to them.

-Smak

[livinglegend]

You know Clinton won the debate otherwise you wouldn't be so insecure about it. :lol