I can't believe people are on the I WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES bandwagon

[9erempiree]

:wtf:

Tonight is the very first time I have EVER heard anyone say such a thing. WTF is going on.:rolleyes:

[TommyGriffin]

People don't want to give the 1% the biggest tax break in the history of the United States.

[Raymone]

A large portion of the Hilary voterbase don't pay taxes at all so.

[9erempiree]

People don't want to give the 1% the biggest tax break in the history of the United States.
:facepalm

This is why I don't respond to you. I only respond to a few oppositions that at least keep track of what's going on.

I try to respond to everyone in my thread though but anyways.....

Big tax break across the board. I don't know if you work but go figure out your taxes and come back at me.

[TommyGriffin]

:facepalm

This is why I don't respond to you. I only respond to a few oppositions that at least keep track of what's going on.

I try to respond to everyone in my thread though but anyways.....

Big tax break across the board. I don't know if you work but go figure out your taxes and come back at me.
It appears the whole not responding thing didn't last very long. Anyways Trump is proposing a cut in the 1%'s tax that is a greater cut than any plan in the history of the United States. Do your homework my friend.

[step_back]

In a globalized World it's easy to have vast amounts of wealth hidden overseas if the tax rate is sky high. Taxes should be lower across the board for everyone. Government shouldn't penalize people that have achieved more by killing the incentive to make more money with higher taxes. If you do the Lion's part you should keep the Lion's share. Government should be thinking, how do we make it as easy as possible for people to get out of poverty and stay out? Start up companies and independent businesses should not have to waste time and money filling in government papers, the school system is complete garbage and needs to be reformed. Taxing your way out will only make things worse.

America HAS to move away from crony capitalism. That's what is really killing the U.S and my country the U.K. (As well as the EU) I fail to see how people think more government bureaucracy will solve the problems.

[9erempiree]

In a globalized World it's easy to have vast amounts of wealth hidden overseas if the tax rate is sky high. Taxes should be lower across the board for everyone. Government shouldn't penalize people that have achieved more by killing the incentive to make more money with higher taxes. If you do the Lion's part you should keep the Lion's share. Government should be thinking, how do we make it as easy as possible for people to get out of poverty and stay out? Start up companies and independent businesses should not have to waste time and money filling in government papers, the school system is complete garbage and needs to be reformed. Taxing your way out will only make things worse.

America HAS to move away from crony capitalism. That's what is really killing the U.S and my country the U.K. (As well as the EU) I fail to see how people think more government bureaucracy will solve the problems.

Trump is proposing lowering taxes all across the board. They only like to look at how much the wealthy are getting taxed instead of even looking at how the tax plan affects them. Everyone's taxes would be lowered.

When you start to penalize people that make more it will start to discourage and kill 'ambition' in society. These people have no motivation to open a business when they see how much they are being taxed and we haven't started on government regulations yet. The combination of both will kill small businesses and business owners alike.

[bluechox2]

trump is giving himself a tax break so that his company can come back on ther cheap from mexico and temporarily create some jobs in the us under the lenient laws sothat his company can prosper

[NumberSix]

America HAS to move away from crony capitalism. That's what is really killing the U.S and my country the U.K. (As well as the EU) I fail to see how people think more government bureaucracy will solve the problems.
The only fix is to reduce the amount of power the government has. Only retards would not understand that if people have power, they're going to use it. And often to the benefit of themselves, their friends and the people they owe favors to.

[MMM]

People don't want to pay more taxes but i'm sick of the GOP always offering massive tax cuts while doing little to reduce spending resulting in large deficits and sick of the democrats playing the working class against the rich. There are some tax reforms that make sense to me such as offseting raises in VAT/consumption taxes to lowering income taxes. Which should give people more choices in terms of investing, spending or saving more of their money.

[MMM]

The only fix is to reduce the amount of power the government has. Only retards would not understand that if people have power, they're going to use it. And often to the benefit of themselves, their friends and the people they owe favors to.

How much reduction of central government power would be too much???

Don't get me wrong i do want to see government power localized and closer to the people it should serve but how much reduction is necessary prior to government becoming ineffective and inefficient.

[sd3035]

Losers who pay little or no taxes want to see successful people brought down due to envy

[Orlando Magic]

People don't want to pay more taxes but i'm sick of the GOP always offering massive tax cuts while doing little to reduce spending resulting in large deficits and sick of the democrats playing the working class against the rich. There are some tax reforms that make sense to me such as offseting raises in VAT/consumption taxes to lowering income taxes. Which should give people more choices in terms of investing, spending or saving more of their money.

Ha. Exactly.


Don't get me wrong i do want to see government power localized and closer to the people it should serve but how much reduction is necessary prior to government becoming ineffective and inefficient.

It isn't already?

What's the difference between a 2016 Republican and a 2016 Democrat?

Abortion. Guns. Mexicans.

Give me a ****ing break.

[UK2K]

People don't want to pay more taxes but i'm sick of the GOP always offering massive tax cuts while doing little to reduce spending resulting in large deficits and sick of the democrats playing the working class against the rich. There are some tax reforms that make sense to me such as offseting raises in VAT/consumption taxes to lowering income taxes. Which should give people more choices in terms of investing, spending or saving more of their money.

That's all that I ask from the government. You can keep the tax rates the same, or raise them, or lower them....

As long as government stops pissing away our money. But it won't. It never will. It never has been fiscally sound, and it never will be.

So since that is the case, I want to keep as much money in my pocket as I can.

I think most everyone can agree with that.

[Jasper]

:wtf:

Tonight is the very first time I have EVER heard anyone say such a thing. WTF is going on.:rolleyes:
I can't believe this thread post :wtf:

[MMM]

Ha. Exactly.



It isn't already?

What's the difference between a 2016 Republican and a 2016 Democrat?

Abortion. Guns. Mexicans.

Give me a ****ing break.

yea after i wrote that that thought occurred to me but relatively speaking government efficiency and effectiveness can always be worse. The answer is probably less ideological than arguing what the size of government should look like.

[rufuspaul]

Losers who pay little or no taxes want to see successful people brought down due to envy


This. Blame the rich for everything.

[Orlando Magic]

That's all that I ask from the government. You can keep the tax rates the same, or raise them, or lower them....

As long as government stops pissing away our money. But it won't. It never will. It never has been fiscally sound, and it never will be.

So since that is the case, I want to keep as much money in my pocket as I can.

I think most everyone can agree with that.

It can change if we elect the right people... that is not the government's fault. That's out fault.

We are, collectively, a bunch of wealthy(not compared to one another... compared to the world), spoiled, entitled assholes.

On average...

Our family unit has disintegrated.
Our sense of community is completely gone.
Everyone is completely self focused.
We worship materialism and money.

None of this shit is going to be fixed by government. It has to be fixed by us, which will then be reflected in who we elect.

However, you are right about one thing... it's not ever going to change. The country is going to fail and fall eventually... and it'll be self inflicted. It won't be because of who we elected and it won't be because of our government. Who we elect and our government... they're symptoms... not the disease.

[falc39]

:wtf:

Tonight is the very first time I have EVER heard anyone say such a thing. WTF is going on.:rolleyes:

It's usually I want someone else to pay more taxes while I get free services paid by those taxes (healthcare, tuition, etc.)

[senelcoolidge]

It's usually I want someone else to pay more taxes while I get free services paid by those taxes (healthcare, tuition, etc.)

True. Why not have those that use those services pay up..nothing is free. It's incredible how people will follow Hillary. She's really an awful candidate. You have to buy her book to know what she wants to do.