Do you wanna ride with Hillary to the White House?

[TommyGriffin]

And, yes, I did. You know what else I prepared for? I prepared to be president.

https://hillaryunleashed.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/hill-pink-limo1.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96xXb2SmuVw)

[~primetime~]

It's time that billionaires like Trump start paying taxes instead of hard working middle class and lower class, which is basically her entire platform.

The top 1% have all the money, and are finding ways to avoid taxes...that is why everything is a "disaster" as Trump would say.

[TommyGriffin]

It's time that billionaires like Trump start paying taxes instead of hard working middle class and lower class, which is basically her entire platform.

The top 1% have all the money, and are finding ways to avoid taxes...that is why everything is a "disaster" as Trump would say.
:djparty

[DonDadda59]

It's time that billionaires like Trump start paying taxes instead of hard working middle class and lower class, which is basically her entire platform.

The top 1% have all the money, and are finding ways to avoid taxes...that is why everything is a "disaster" as Trump would say.

:applause:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwgtktqxAF1qanm80o1_500.png

"There's a storm coming, Mr. Drumpf."

[Orlando Magic]

:applause:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwgtktqxAF1qanm80o1_500.png

"There's a storm coming, Mr. Drumpf."

If you really believe Hillary represents what Hathaway did in that movie, lmao...

TERRIBLE comparison.

TLDR; you're stupid if you think Hillary or Trump have your best interest at heart.

[DonDadda59]

If you really believe Hillary represents what Hathaway did in that movie, lmao...

TERRIBLE comparison.

Her 65% Estate Tax proposal she released last week gave the Donald a minor stroke.

The Donald, being the candidate who wants to do away with the tax completely so his spoiled silver spoon kids don't have to pay any taxes at all on their inheritance.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/782/935/ce2.png

[TommyGriffin]

Her 65% Estate Tax proposal she released last week gave the Donald a minor stroke.

The Donald, being the candidate who wants to do away with the tax completely so his spoiled silver spoon kids don't have to pay any taxes at all on their inheritance.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/782/935/ce2.png
Trump supporters want tax breaks and no estate tax, aka "FREE SHIT!!!"

[PJR]

I'm rolling with team Never Trump.

[DonDadda59]

Trump supporters want tax breaks and no estate tax, aka "FREE SHIT!!!"

*They want all that for the wealthiest Americans for some bizarre, nonsensical reason*

The Donald- 'I want to cut corporate tax rates by 20%, taxes for the 1% by 30%, and eliminate inheritance taxes for multimillionaires and billionaires while making sure over 20 million working class people lose their health insurance and over 3.5 million jobs.'

Dirt poor red state rubes-

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4779052/hillbilly-square-dance-o.gif

[macmac]

Why should you pay an inheritance tax tho? I mean isn't that money already taxed? You need permission and fees to give your hard earned taxed money to your own family?

Canada has no such tax, and are people aren't starving.

I'm all for getting rid of bs loopholes and tax havens where the richest pay absolutely nothing though

[NumberSix]

It's time that billionaires like Trump start paying taxes instead of hard working middle class and lower class, which is basically her entire platform.

The top 1% have all the money, and are finding ways to avoid taxes...that is why everything is a "disaster" as Trump would say.
And who is it that decides how much tax people are required to pay? Was that Donald Trump? Was it Donald Trump that decided how much tax her required to pay?

[~primetime~]

Why should you pay an inheritance tax tho? I mean isn't that money already taxed? You need permission and fees to give your hard earned taxed money to your own family?

Canada has no such tax, and are people aren't starving.

I'm all for getting rid of bs loopholes and tax havens where the richest pay absolutely nothing though
There is no inheritance tax if the estate is under $5.5m, also businesses can't be taxes if you inherit a family business.

[Hawker]

There is no inheritance tax if the estate is under $5.5m, also businesses can't be taxes if you inherit a family business.

That's not what he asked.

Estates are an illiquid asset. If the house loses value at some time in the future, does the government give that money back?

[~primetime~]

And who is it that decides how much tax people are required to pay? Was that Donald Trump? Was it Donald Trump that decided how much tax her required to pay?
They are supposed to be in the top tax bracket...the US Gov never intended for Billionaires to be able to avoid taxes by loop holes. This is something that NEEDS to be fixed because the extreme wealthy hold all the money.

Hillary is huge on this...she wants to get rid of these loop holes, and then use the money to pay off college debt for the middle class...thus leaving a strong and EDUCATED middle class

[~primetime~]

That's not what he asked.

Estates are an illiquid asset. If the house loses value at some time in the future, does the government give that money back?
estate is EVERYTHING...when your parents die, you will inherit thier estate...which is their homes, businesses, cars, and stocks and MONEY...everything they owned

if the value of the total estate is under $5.5m, you will not be taxed a single penny

[UK2K]

It's time that billionaires like Trump start paying taxes instead of hard working middle class and lower class, which is basically her entire platform.

The top 1% have all the money, and are finding ways to avoid taxes...that is why everything is a "disaster" as Trump would say.

Just close the tax loopholes and cut government spending. Not sure what's so hard about that....

Or go to a consumption tax, which we should have been using all along.

[Hawker]

They are supposed to be in the top tax bracket...the US Gov never intended for Billionaires to be able to avoid taxes by loop holes. This is something that NEEDS to be fixed because the extreme wealthy hold all the money.

Hillary is huge on this...she wants to get rid of these loop holes, and then use the money to pay off college debt for the middle class...thus leaving a strong and EDUCATED middle class

The thing is every time the government passes something, unintended consequences are a result. Maybe they should consider that before they blindly pass something. It has a lot to do with these politicians not working a real private job before.

They are going to go after billionaries, pass some law and it will affect the 99% negatively without realizing it.

[NumberSix]

They are supposed to be in the top tax bracket...the US Gov never intended for Billionaires to be able to avoid taxes by loop holes. This is something that NEEDS to be fixed because the extreme wealthy hold all the money.
Yes they did. Are you f*cking retarded? :roll:

You think these "loopholes" happened by accident? Are seriously not aware that people spend millions lobbying politicians to get these "loopholes" written into law?


Hillary is huge on this...she wants to get rid of these loop holes, and then use the money to pay off college debt for the middle class...thus leaving a strong and EDUCATED middle class
You people are f*cking priceless. :roll:

Why do you think all the big banks and big business are pouring all the money into the Clinton campaign? Because she's gonna f*ck them up the ass and they're cool with it? Geez, you guys can't be this dumb.

[Hawker]

estate is EVERYTHING...when your parents die, you will inherit thier estate...which is their homes, businesses, cars, and stocks and MONEY...everything they owned

if the value of the total estate is under $5.5m, you will not be taxed a single penny

Ok. That's not my point. No matter the value it shouldn't be taxed at all. Everyone keeps mentioning that threshold like it's supposed to mean something.

[~primetime~]

Ok. That's not my point. No matter the value it shouldn't be taxed at all. Everyone keeps mentioning that threshold like it's supposed to mean something.
okay, well that's debatable I guess

that would be an argument for the top-1% though

I'm worried about the the other 99% who will NOT inherit over $5.5m

[TommyGriffin]

Trump guys just want free shit now. :facepalm

[~primetime~]

No one in here should be fighting for the top-1%...they don't care about you in the slightest, you shouldn't care about them

You shouldn't feel sorry for them either...they simply have too much fcking money

that is why the collector car, fine art, etc markets are sky rocketing right now...because so many rich people have nothing else to spend money on. Meanwhile the bulk of the country is struggling to make that student loan payment

[NumberSix]

Ok. That's not my point. No matter the value it shouldn't be taxed at all. Everyone keeps mentioning that threshold like it's supposed to mean something.
What if any kids after you're 10th get sold into slavery? I mean, if you only have 10 kids or under, you don't have to worry. Only you're 11th kid and so on will be slaves. The number totally changes the values.

[TommyGriffin]

No one in here should be fighting for the top-1%...they don't care about you in the slightest, you shouldn't care about them

You shouldn't feel sorry for them either...they simply have too much fcking money

that is why the collector car, fine art, etc markets are sky rocketing right now...because so many rich people have nothing else to spend money on. Meanwhile the bulk of the country is struggling to make that student loan payment
Welcome to the South, voting against our interests for the past 50 years. :facepalm

[~primetime~]

You went to college Hawker...do you have federal student loan payments?

If so Hillary wants to pay that off for you, using money from the elite rich that should have been tax money anyway. Why oh why would you rather fight for the elite rich and keep yourself down???

[NumberSix]

Welcome to the South, voting against our interests for the past 50 years. :facepalm
You're supposed be pretending to be a republican.

[Nick Young]

You went to college Hawker...do you have federal student loan payments?

If so Hillary wants to pay that off for you, using money from the elite rich that should have been tax money anyway. Why oh why would you rather fight for the elite rich and keep yourself down???
Why should rich and successful people who made responsible decisions with their money be forced to pay for people who made the unwise decision to take out a loan they couldn't pay back?

[TommyGriffin]

You're supposed be pretending to be a republican.
I am a Republican from the South and I have recently woken up about our previous flawed political beliefs and am in the process of changing to a more sensible option.

[~primetime~]

Why should rich and successful people who made responsible decisions with their money be forced to pay for people who made the unwise decision to take out a loan they couldn't pay back?
They will just be forced to pay taxes they should have always been paying to begin with.

Why oh why do you care about THEM more than you care about YOU???


vote for what puts money in YOUR pocket...that is what the elite rich do.

[NumberSix]

They will just be forced to pay taxes they should have always been paying to begin with.

Why oh why do you care about THEM more than you care about YOU???


vote for what puts money in YOUR pocket...that is what the elite rich do.
What if what puts money in my pocket is lowering taxes and letting me keep my own money?

[~primetime~]

What if what puts money in my pocket is lowering taxes and letting me keep my own money?
Student debt is single handedly crushing the middle class...many have $50k-$100k in debt that will take them DECADES to pay off.

Trump lowering taxes 1% (if that) is pennies compared to making sure the elite rich are taxed properly, and then freeing up everyone's student debt that has a choke hold on them

[UK2K]

They will just be forced to pay taxes they should have always been paying to begin with.

Why oh why do you care about THEM more than you care about YOU???


vote for what puts money in YOUR pocket...that is what the elite rich do.

Lower taxes and reduced government spending puts money in my pocket.

That's what I'm voting for.

[UK2K]

Student debt is single handedly crushing the middle class...many have $50k-$100k in debt that will take them DECADES to pay off.

Trump lowering taxes 1% (if that) is pennies compared to making sure the elite rich are taxed properly, and then freeing up everyone's student debt that has a choke hold on them

Apparently they didn't pay attention to their exit forms on their FASFA.

[warriorfan]

It's over. Trump even said at the debate he isn't going to run ads to save money. Donald is done.

[NumberSix]

Student debt is single handedly crushing the middle class...many have $50k-$100k in debt that will take them DECADES to pay off.

Trump lowering taxes 1% (if that) is pennies compared to making sure the elite rich are taxed properly, and then freeing up everyone's student debt that has a choke hold on them
Don't borrow money you can't afford to pay back.

[Nanners]

according to hillarys site, the average person with student debt would save about $500 per year with her college plan. (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/tools/college-calculator/)

[warriorfan]

according to hillarys site, the average borrower would save about $500 per year with her college plan. (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/tools/college-calculator/)
Whats up with Hillary's health? Were you wrong as **** or what?

[NumberSix]

It's over. Trump even said at the debate he isn't going to run ads to save money. Donald is done.
You just made that up. What he said was Clinton's ads were a waste of money because they didn't work.

The Trump campaign just recently announced an ad buy of $100 million in 13 states.

[UK2K]

It's over. Trump even said at the debate he isn't going to run ads to save money. Donald is done.
Irony...

[QUOTE]Facing continually diminishing poll results in Ohio CNN

[Nick Young]

It's over. Trump even said at the debate he isn't going to run ads to save money. Donald is done.
Primetime TV ads don't win elections in 2016.

Trump is paying for ads. Viral internet ads that cost a fraction of what TV ads cost, but are more effective in this day and age.

Here is a new one mocking Hillary for her "Why am I not 50 points ahead" meltdown. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnkusfFu1Bs)

Here is an old one that destroys her.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf14TE74MVg)
You don't seem to understand. It doesn't matter how much more money Hillary is spending if she wastes that money on ineffective television advertising.

[TommyGriffin]

You just made that up. What he said was Clinton's ads were a waste of money because they didn't work.

The Trump campaign just recently announced an ad buy of $100 million in 13 states.
No. Warriorfan is right, Trump said he is not going to run ads to "save money". It's all there in the transcript.

[~primetime~]

according to hillarys site, the average person with student debt would save about $500 per year with her college plan. (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/tools/college-calculator/)
It says those WITH debt will save $5k on average...those planning to attend college with save $37k on avearge

:confusedshrug:

[Nanners]

It says those WITH debt will save $5k on average...those planning to attend college with save $37k on avearge

:confusedshrug:

yes 5k over a 10 year period, thats $500/year...

[~primetime~]

yes 5k over a 10 year period, thats $500/year...
there are THESE benifits for those with existing debt:


you are eligible to have your monthly payments capped at $143 per month under an income-based repayment plan.


After 20 years, any remaining balance will be forgiven.

[Hawker]

You went to college Hawker...do you have federal student loan payments?

If so Hillary wants to pay that off for you, using money from the elite rich that should have been tax money anyway. Why oh why would you rather fight for the elite rich and keep yourself down???
No I don't have debt. I went to a public school and my parents saved and invested wisely.

What should be recommended is to pay off federal student loan debt with PRE-TAX income. The government is making a nice profit margin off making you pay off your federal student loans after they've taken 25% already. I can get behind making a tax deduction on interest and principal. That'll lower the overall tax rate and give college grads more useable income they need at that age.

[~primetime~]

A lot of people are making student debt payments that look like mortgage payments...$1,000 a month

capping monthly payments at $143 per month is huge



ALSO...isn't it fantastic that all of Hill's plans are spread out for all to see in great detail?

Trump has nothing like this...what are Trumps plans of college debt? Has he given it ANY thought at all???

[Hawker]

A lot of people are making student debt payments that look like mortgage payments...$1,000 a month

capping monthly payments at $143 per month is huge



ALSO...isn't it fantastic that all of Hill's plans are spread out for all to see in great detail?

Trump has nothing like this...what are Trumps plans of college debt? Has he given it ANY thought at all???

Have you ever though about why college costs so much to begin with or why it's absolutely necessary to go to university? In my opinion, what you're asking for is a simple solution to a complex societal problem.

[Nanners]

A lot of people are making student debt payments that look like mortgage payments...$1,000 a month

capping monthly payments at $143 per month is huge



ALSO...isn't it fantastic that all of Hill's plans are spread out for all to see in great detail?

Trump has nothing like this...what are Trumps plans of college debt? Has he given it ANY thought at all???


the payment cap is entirely dependent on how many people are in your family.

for a solo borrower, the payment cap is at $299. you need a spouse and 2 children to get your cap down to $143

[~primetime~]

Have you ever though about why college costs so much to begin with or why it's absolutely necessary to go to university? In my opinion, what you're asking for is a simple solution to a complex societal problem.
Hill's solution, of just making the elite rich pay the taxes they should have paid all along, is something that needs to be done regardless of that.

[~primetime~]

the payment cap is entirely dependent on how many people are in your family.

for a solo borrower, the payment cap is at $299. you need a spouse and 2 children to get your cap down to $143
I have a spouse, who currently makes $900 student debt payments, and 2 kids.

I've been trying to set up my own kids college funds recently, the way it is set up currently, I have to plan on spending $250k EACH when they are of age to go to college. I need to save HALF A MILLION in the next 15 years for my kids to have college paid for.

I make good money, and these college costs are fcking KILLING me...if they are killing me I know they are fcking up most everyone else, half the country living paycheck to paycheck, how the fck can they afford this shit?

And no, I don't want to put my kids in plumber school (which is probably like $50k anyway). This country should WANT for it's citizens to go to college.

[falc39]

I have a spouse, who currently makes $900 student debt payments, and 2 kids.

I've been trying to set up my own kids college funds recently, the way it is set up currently, I have to plan on spending $250k EACH when they are of age to go to college. I need to save HALF A MILLION in the next 15 years for my kids to have college paid for.

I make good money, and these college costs are fcking KILLING me...if they are killing me I know they are fcking up most everyone else, half the country living paycheck to paycheck, how the fck can they afford this shit?

And no, I don't want to put my kids in plumber school (which is probably like $50k anyway). This country should WANT for it's citizens to go to college.

I make good money and my college costs were a small fraction of 250K. How in the world are you getting that number and what college do you plan on sending them to?

[Nick Young]

By antagonizing the coal mining industry, Hillary has lost PA (http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/the-best-debate-takes-come-from-inside-the-bar/)

[~primetime~]

I make good money and my college costs were a small fraction of 250K. How in the world are you getting that number and what college do you plan on sending them to?
my kids are 0 and 3, so this would roughly 15 years from now

Here (http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2012/07/25/how-much-will-you-need-to-send-your-child-to-college-in-2030), this calculates that the average 4 year degree will be $205,000 by the year 2030, that is 13 years for now.


maybe for my oldest it will be around $220k...my youngest probably $250k

[rufuspaul]

The estate tax is basically stealing from you after you die. You work hard all your life, pay taxes on your income which the government wastes, and then you get taxed again on the assets you want to leave to your family. It's shameful.

[DonDadda59]

Trump guys just want free shit now. :facepalm

Only for multimillionaires and billionaires AKA the people who need free shit the most- 'the job creators'.


Welcome to the South, voting against our interests for the past 50 years. :facepalm

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/eb/25/4f/eb254f77e0028499acad286d3e9b5acd.jpg

Apt.... APT.

[~primetime~]

The estate tax is basically stealing from you after you die. You work hard all your life, pay taxes on your income which the government wastes, and then you get taxed again on the assets you want to leave to your family. It's shameful.
I may not disagree but the estate has to be over $5.5m and excludes businesses

if your kids inherit a $20m dental business then it will not be taxed, because they know ti could force your kids to have to sell the business.