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Styles p
09-28-2016, 01:54 PM
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With him bitching about his minutes and the Sixers just posting this all over social media, got a feeling he's on his way out.

fiddy
09-28-2016, 02:00 PM
Lakers.

FreezingTsmoove
09-28-2016, 02:06 PM
Whoever jels the least with Simmons is on their way out

Jahlil spreads the floor at least and Embiid is a monster. Noel is clearly the weakest link

Real Men Wear Green
09-28-2016, 02:27 PM
Most teams could use him. He isn't a star but there's always value in a tall athlete that can defend.

ClipperRevival
09-28-2016, 02:37 PM
Dude has the size, length and athleticism of a KG. Hell yeah I want him on the Lakers.

PP34Deuce
09-28-2016, 02:40 PM
Noel reminds me of a Sam Dalembert with more natural skills.

He's never going to be Marcus Camby (pre injury) but he will be a solid 10-12PPG 10-11 RPG 2 blocks and above average defense.

Celtics would be amazing with him and Horford.

He needs to be next to a PF that can score midrange and demand a double. Noel would thrive next to guys like Blake Griffin, Horford, Anthony Davis, Zach Randolph.

ClipperRevival
09-28-2016, 02:47 PM
Noel isn't just athletic, he's a freak. A straight pogo stick. When I say pogo stick, I don't mean just the vertical, I mean he can get off the floor with little effort AND give you multiple jumps instantly. That is rare for a big.

If he's motivated, he's got the chance to be a special defender in the mold of KG. The physical tools are all there. Just a matter of how motivated he is.

Clarkson, Lou Williams, Nick Young and future 2nd round pick for Noel?

PP34Deuce
09-28-2016, 02:53 PM
Noel isn't just athletic, he's a freak. A straight pogo stick. When I say pogo stick, I don't mean just the vertical, I mean he can get off the floor with little effort AND give you multiple jumps instantly. That is rare for a big.

If he's motivated, he's got the chance to be a special defender in the mold of KG. The physical tools are all there. Just a matter of how motivated he is.

Clarkson, Lou Williams, Nick Young and future 2nd round pick for Noel?

Do you think he can be Marcus Camby?

Hey Yo
09-28-2016, 02:54 PM
With him bitching about his minutes and the Sixers just posting this all over social media, got a feeling he's on his way out.

This is from about a week ago.

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BigKAT
09-28-2016, 02:57 PM
Put him next to Anthony Davis.

Or ship him off to the Blazers, I think that culture will rub on him good. Very empowering for young players from what I've seen.

ClipperRevival
09-28-2016, 02:58 PM
Do you think he can be Marcus Camby?

Noel's got all the physical tools to be special. But how far he goes is between the ears like his work ethic/desire along with bball IQ/awareness. But just in terms of sheer tools, he's about as good as it gets.

BigKAT
09-28-2016, 03:06 PM
Noel's got all the physical tools to be special. But how far he goes is between the ears like his work ethic/desire along with bball IQ/awareness. But just in terms of sheer tools, he's about as good as it gets.

I have not watched enough of Noel. (Sixers were generally hard to watch.)
But still, what big man does he resemble in your opinion the most? If you had to pick someone from the past?

ClipperRevival
09-28-2016, 03:12 PM
I have not watched enough of Noel. (Sixers were generally hard to watch.)
But still, what big man does he resemble in your opinion the most? If you had to pick someone from the past?

In terms of sheer measurables and athleticism, definitely KG. But Noel is very raw offensively. But like the article said above, I don't really care about that. Just him being on the floor and being ENGAGED would make him a very impactful player.

BigKAT
09-28-2016, 03:33 PM
In terms of sheer measurables and athleticism, definitely KG. But Noel is very raw offensively. But like the article said above, I don't really care about that. Just him being on the floor and being ENGAGED would make him a very impactful player.

KG is a pretty high standard (Even if we are speaking strictly on an athletic basis)

From the little I've seen, and mostly what I've heard, what made Noels a likely top pick and maybe the legit 1st pick of his draft class was his anticipation on defense and positioning.

My question is,
Do you see him becoming a DPOY level rim protector with some offensive game to match? (an Ibaka for example)

HurricaneKid
09-28-2016, 04:27 PM
Everyone wants him. No one wants to trade assets for him THEN pony up for his FA 9 mos later.

PP34Deuce
09-28-2016, 06:57 PM
KG is a pretty high standard (Even if we are speaking strictly on an athletic basis)

From the little I've seen, and mostly what I've heard, what made Noels a likely top pick and maybe the legit 1st pick of his draft class was his anticipation on defense and positioning.

My question is,
Do you see him becoming a DPOY level rim protector with some offensive game to match? (an Ibaka for example)

Ibaka was explosive vertically... Noel moves laterally and open floor better. I don't see KG. I see Sam dalembert with Marcus Camby as his ceiling.

chocolatethunder
09-29-2016, 08:49 AM
Noel reminds me of a Sam Dalembert with more natural skills.

He's never going to be Marcus Camby (pre injury) but he will be a solid 10-12PPG 10-11 RPG 2 blocks and above average defense.

Celtics would be amazing with him and Horford.

He needs to be next to a PF that can score midrange and demand a double. Noel would thrive next to guys like Blake Griffin, Horford, Anthony Davis, Zach Randolph.
he's not gonna get you 11 boards.

chocolatethunder
09-29-2016, 09:02 AM
Noel isn't just athletic, he's a freak. A straight pogo stick. When I say pogo stick, I don't mean just the vertical, I mean he can get off the floor with little effort AND give you multiple jumps instantly. That is rare for a big.

If he's motivated, he's got the chance to be a special defender in the mold of KG. The physical tools are all there. Just a matter of how motivated he is.

Clarkson, Lou Williams, Nick Young and future 2nd round pick for Noel?
I'm a Sixer fan and I'll break down what he can and can't do
what he can do
He gets steals
He gets blocks
can switch on the perimeter
is good at rolling to the basket for a lob

Can't
cannot set a pick to save his life
has maybe the worst hands I've seen in a really long time
can't shoot at all and they completely rebuilt his shot (can't shoot FTs either)
although he can switch on D, he can only defend the 5. He was not good at the 4 last year
can't defend post ups
is at best an average rebounder in spite of all the bullshit about his jumping

I've watched every game of his. To me he has the potential to be in the mold of Theo Ratliff and I think that's good. Ratliff was a better shot blocker and shooter but he was just as poor a rebounder for his size and a better post defender. If you're expecting anything more or someone who can guard multiple positions, it's not Noel. His offense isn't bad, it's really bad. He would be a great guy off the bench or a decent starter on the right team. Any comparison to KG in any way is not realistic. He's not as tall as Camby or KG. He's a guy almost any team could use but he doesn't have a place in Philly if Embiid ends up staying healthy. I don't dislike him although it may seem I'm being harsh on him, I'm not. I'm just being realistic. Embiid will end up being better on D (brett brown called Embiid the "crown jewel" of the defense). I dunno what Philly can get back for Noel because they were unable to get a top five lottery pick this past year.

ClipperRevival
09-29-2016, 09:35 AM
I'm a Sixer fan and I'll break down what he can and can't do
what he can do
He gets steals
He gets blocks
can switch on the perimeter
is good at rolling to the basket for a lob

Can't
cannot set a pick to save his life
has maybe the worst hands I've seen in a really long time
can't shoot at all and they completely rebuilt his shot (can't shoot FTs either)
although he can switch on D, he can only defend the 5. He was not good at the 4 last year
can't defend post ups
is at best an average rebounder in spite of all the bullshit about his jumping

I've watched every game of his. To me he has the potential to be in the mold of Theo Ratliff and I think that's good. Ratliff was a better shot blocker and shooter but he was just as poor a rebounder for his size and a better post defender. If you're expecting anything more or someone who can guard multiple positions, it's not Noel. His offense isn't bad, it's really bad. He would be a great guy off the bench or a decent starter on the right team. Any comparison to KG in any way is not realistic. He's not as tall as Camby or KG. He's a guy almost any team could use but he doesn't have a place in Philly if Embiid ends up staying healthy. I don't dislike him although it may seem I'm being harsh on him, I'm not. I'm just being realistic. Embiid will end up being better on D (brett brown called Embiid the "crown jewel" of the defense). I dunno what Philly can get back for Noel because they were unable to get a top five lottery pick this past year.

Interesting. I've only seen him in stretches so i'm mostly going off his raw tools, which is impressive. But the guy is 6'10" without shoes so he's almost a 7 footer in shoes and his wingspan of almost 7'4" is also impressive.

I just think his POTENTIAL is very high but potential is different from reality. Seems like he's coming up short in the bball iq and skills department. But when he has that much raw talent, he's a guy I would take a chance on if I were the Lakers.

ClipperRevival
09-29-2016, 09:40 AM
KG is a pretty high standard (Even if we are speaking strictly on an athletic basis)

From the little I've seen, and mostly what I've heard, what made Noels a likely top pick and maybe the legit 1st pick of his draft class was his anticipation on defense and positioning.

My question is,
Do you see him becoming a DPOY level rim protector with some offensive game to match? (an Ibaka for example)

Again, i'm going strictly off his raw tools. In that case, his potential is immense. But based on what chocolatethunder said above, it appears that he might be lacking in the skills and bball iq department so far. But he's still only 22 and has room for improvement.

chocolatethunder
09-29-2016, 11:22 AM
Again, i'm going strictly off his raw tools. In that case, his potential is immense. But based on what chocolatethunder said above, it appears that he might be lacking in the skills and bball iq department so far. But he's still only 22 and has room for improvement.
Oh also, he's shown minimal improvement in his two years so I don't forsee some huge jump from where he is to his ceiling.

ISHGoat
09-29-2016, 01:14 PM
How many big men do we see come in to the NBA as stiffs offensively and then drastically improve their game? Almost none.

He is what he is. A defensive/shot-blocking specialist that will force your team to play 4v5 on offense.

xoneatom
09-29-2016, 02:17 PM
send him to toronto

DaHeezy
09-29-2016, 02:20 PM
Everyone wants him. No one wants to trade assets for him THEN pony up for his FA 9 mos later.
This. People need to realize the Sixers need assets in return. The only teams he would go to are teams willing to trade a top level shooter/backcourt scorer.

HylianNightmare
09-29-2016, 04:26 PM
Orlando

DaHeezy
09-29-2016, 04:35 PM
Orlando
Didn't they just sign Biyombo? They're 2 in the same

DaHeezy
09-29-2016, 04:37 PM
This is a long shot but what about the Warriors? They have enough scoring and need interior defense. He's a perfect defensive pairing with Draymond.

Sarcastic
09-29-2016, 04:40 PM
Many teams would want him, as soon as Philly realizes he's not as valuable as they think he is.