View Full Version : Duke offers reeducation camp for men to reflect on their toxic masculinity
Long Duck Dong
10-01-2016, 06:03 PM
Remember when they suspended part of the lacrosse team and fired the coach for sticking up them because they automatically assumed a rape accusation by a lowlife criminal stripper was true. Now this. :facepalm
The Duke Men’s Project, launched this month and hosted by the campus Women’s Center, offers a nine-week program for “male-identified” students that discusses male privilege, patriarchy, “the language of dominance,” rape culture, pornography, machismo and other topics.
Junior Dipro Bhowmik, who sits on the leadership team, recently said the goal of the Duke Men’s Project is for male students to “critique and analyze their own masculinity and toxic masculinities to create healthier ones.”
Alex Bressler, another junior on the leadership team, said the program would help men “proactively deconstruct our masculinity.”
Duke’s new program is patterned off of a similar one at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, where participants are asked to contemplate how masculinity plays a harmful influence in lives.
There the program seeks “to shift the culture of masculinity toward more non-violent norms”—the underlying assumption being that violence is currently the norm for men.
It’s hard to imagine any other group on campus participating in a similar program—much less doing so under the banner of a “safe space.”
http://heatst.com/culture-wars/duke-offers-men-a-safe-space-to-contemplate-their-toxic-masculinity/
dude77
10-01-2016, 06:05 PM
the left must be destroyed
nathanjizzle
10-01-2016, 06:14 PM
masculinity is a form of delusion. you got idiots walking around acting like there somebody because of their own delusion.
resin_baller
10-01-2016, 08:04 PM
masculinity is a form of delusion. you got idiots walking around acting like there somebody because of their own delusion.
Let's switch that around
"Femininity is a form of delusion. You got idiots walking around acting like there somebody because of their own delusion".
What do you think about that?
dude77
10-01-2016, 08:13 PM
masculinity is a form of delusion. you got idiots walking around acting like there somebody because of their own delusion.
low t confirmed
NumberSix
10-01-2016, 08:28 PM
Nate jizz is low energy.
tomtucker
10-02-2016, 03:58 AM
Nate jizz is low energy.
slurping all that jizz got the poor thing sleepy , go to bed , it
Hotlantadude81
10-02-2016, 06:49 AM
Remember when they suspended part of the lacrosse team and fired the coach for sticking up them because they automatically assumed a rape accusation by a lowlife criminal stripper was true. Now this. :facepalm
http://heatst.com/culture-wars/duke-offers-men-a-safe-space-to-contemplate-their-toxic-masculinity/
Liberals might have been useful once upon a time. Now? Not so much. Their ideology is no longer useful.
gigantes
10-02-2016, 09:03 AM
Let's switch that around
"Femininity is a form of delusion. You got idiots walking around acting like there somebody because of their own delusion".
What do you think about that?
totally.
fact is, you got self-entitled, delusional jackasses on every side of the issue.
i think classes for each sex and workshops for everyone in school would be a great idea. i mean, if you're a man, wouldn't you want to get a better idea of what creeps women out and what they find offensive, anyway? it would be incredibly across the rest of your life since dealing with women is something you're probably going to be doing for quite a while.
unless you're a monk or something. monks are some pillaging, rapist badasses, i guess.
Dresta
10-02-2016, 10:02 AM
totally.
fact is, you got self-entitled, delusional jackasses on every side of the issue.
i think classes for each sex and workshops for everyone in school would be a great idea. i mean, if you're a man, wouldn't you want to get a better idea of what creeps women out and what they find offensive, anyway? it would be incredibly across the rest of your life since dealing with women is something you're probably going to be doing for quite a while.
unless you're a monk or something. monks are some pillaging, rapist badasses, i guess.
Women don't find masculinity "offensive" though. Few women want a man who can't stand up for and protect them if push came to shove; courage is a virtue not a crime. Moreover, masculinity is the bulwark of security for any State, and where it recedes, security and freedom go along with it. The growth of hyper-militarised police forces and of ubiquitous mass surveillance are clear consequences of a decades-long attack on masculinity and masculine virtues.
Re-education classes that teach people to deny their nature, and attack the basic distinctions of biological life, creepily reminiscent of the Soviet Union and other totalitarian orders, is certainly not "a good idea." That's why it can only be achieved through force and compulsion and the incessant expansion of State power into people's private lives.
The idea that schools are centres for indoctrinating children with ideological fantasies is perverse to the extreme.
gigantes
10-02-2016, 10:14 AM
@dresta,
sounds like you're jumping to some conclusions there, mate. i don't think they have anything against masculinity per se. like you said, it's normal and necessary to life.
anyway, this is what actually seems to be on the docket:
[quote]male privilege, patriarchy,
Im Still Ballin
10-02-2016, 10:16 AM
How the mighty have fallen. From Alexander The Great to this.. The millennial.
Lol
Dresta
10-02-2016, 01:08 PM
@dresta,
sounds like you're jumping to some conclusions there, mate. i don't think they have anything against masculinity per se. like you said, it's normal and necessary to life.
anyway, this is what actually seems to be on the docket:
now i'm not sure pornography really belongs in there, but the rest of that shit is some classic stuff that men abuse women with. of course one thing i would also be concerned with is the class NOT making men feel like they're personally to blame. that helps nobody IMO.
also, i think the men need to feel there's a corresponding class for women to work on their bullshit as well, which is what i had proposed above.Those are all highly contentious issues though--how can we be indoctrinating children with this stuff when only a minority of the population even believes there is such thing as a "rape culture"? Male privilege certainly is contentious considering that by almost every metric, men have it worse in life (life expectancy, suicide, divorce and child custody, abortion and child support, and many other things).
Patriarchy itself was always female privilege tbh, a means of protecting women in dangerous and hostile environments (as life always has been until recently), and this was how it was largely seen until 20th century radicalism swept in to abolish civilisational structures that had persevered for millennia (perhaps suggesting there was something valuable to them, at least). It was always about protecting women; now women have been freed from it for a few decades and they already seem to want the new daddy of the State to swoop in and fill the old functions of patriarchal society. Pornography itself is a consequence of the abolishment of patriarchy. You can't demand liberty and then freedom from the consequences of liberty; these people are going in circles.
edit: and what the hell is "the language of dominance"
That's just gibberish.
gigantes
10-02-2016, 05:05 PM
in that case, probably the most pragmatic way of looking at it is as a lack of understanding upon what the hell women are upset about, expressed in those little terms and phrases above.
i'm saying that i think it's worth asking them or figuring it out through education or other means.
to me there's a balance between having awareness of women's triggers and -not- having to walk on eggshells or to feel like less of a man around them. it just takes the willingness to put in the effort, i think. not a very dude-bro concept of course, more like shit to deal with as we get older and don't want to create unnecessary headaches for ourselves.
comfort zones and familiarity can start out small but widen over time. i know we've all experienced that with various stuff. i don't see why it shouldn't be the case, here.
Orlando Magic
10-02-2016, 06:50 PM
in that case, probably the most pragmatic way of looking at it is as a lack of understanding upon what the hell women are upset about, expressed in those little terms and phrases above.
i'm saying that i think it's worth asking them or figuring it out through education or other means.
to me there's a balance between having awareness of women's triggers and -not- having to walk on eggshells or to feel like less of a man around them. it just takes the willingness to put in the effort, i think. not a very dude-bro concept of course, more like shit to deal with as we get older and don't want to create unnecessary headaches for ourselves.
comfort zones and familiarity can start out small but widen over time. i know we've all experienced that with various stuff. i don't see why it shouldn't be the case, here.
Women don't know what they're upset about. They want their cake and to eat it too.
They're emotional creatures. Not logical ones. Men tend to be more logical.
This PC bullshit needs to stop.
gigantes
10-03-2016, 12:19 AM
Women don't know what they're upset about. They want their cake and to eat it too.
They're emotional creatures. Not logical ones. Men tend to be more logical.
This PC bullshit needs to stop.
haha, i know literally millions of dude-bros who feel the same way, including myself.
congratulations for permanently solving all problems of gender communication!
motherf-cking Orlando Magic-- like, only question is WHEN should we schedule your massive parade, dude...?
Dunaprenti
10-03-2016, 04:57 AM
The only thing young people should learn is the NAP principle. If a man or a woman is upset by words its their own fault and they should learn to deal with their own insecurities, everything else is bullshit. Machismo and language of dominance is LOL material.
JEFFERSON MONEY
10-04-2016, 02:52 PM
Huge waste of time.
There's Prophet Solomon masculinity, and then there's Duke lax masculinity.
The best way to get to the former is not through castration, but education, challenge, and kicking the bullsheet to the curb.
And men ain't men untill they respect women either. See women as daughters, sisters, mothers, wives. Not commodities.
poido123
10-04-2016, 05:29 PM
This is what happens when you give too much power to the Left.
Hillary will only perpetuate this nonsense.
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