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3ball
10-03-2016, 08:42 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/30KRmRhU0f8Q0/giphy.gif


The 1991 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qpikcz&s=8#.V_L49-ArLIW) and 1992 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck) Philadelphia 76'er media guides show that Majerle got 70 dunks in 1991, and 72 dunks in 1992 (top 10% of the league) - this is far more than Klay's career high of 21 dunks in 2015.

Majerle's higher dunk total occurred when league-wide dunk frequency was lower, as shown here (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12555171&postcount=86) (1 dunk every 23.8 shots in 1992, compared to 1 every 22.6 shots in 2014).

Why is this important?... Because people were wondering whether MJ could average 50 on Klay - he obviously could, since he averaged 41 on Majerle, who was a superior athlete and all-nba defender (47/10/6 in Games 2-4.. and also got 36 on Drexler in 92').
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G-train
10-03-2016, 08:45 PM
Thunder Dan got his nickname for his dunking. Klay is just an average athlete.

Doranku
10-03-2016, 08:51 PM
Thunder Dan got his nickname for his dunking. Klay is just an average athlete.

lmao yeah, not really sure what the point of this thread is.

3ball
10-03-2016, 09:00 PM
Thunder Dan got his nickname for his dunking. Klay is just an average athlete.


Good point.. Based on Jordan getting 41 on Majerle and 36 on Drexler, we can assume he would get 50 on Klay.

People forget that MJ averaged 34/7/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989) in 16 games against Reggie Lewis (starting SG vs. starting SG), and 35/8/8 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404) in head-to-head matchups with DPOY Michael Cooper (who was far more athletic than Klay).. MJ also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnOf9okUdg&t=1m19s) superathlete SG Stacey Augmon..

Even at 33 years old, MJ averaged 30 ppg on 50% against Nick Anderson and Penny Hardaway in ECF.. Klay's athleticism compares more to a guy like Dale Ellis, who Jordan also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSGPvnbW3k&t=2m16s).

ralph_i_el
10-03-2016, 09:00 PM
Jumping=/defense

3ball
10-03-2016, 09:04 PM
not really sure what the point of this thread is.


People were wondering whether MJ could average 50 on Klay - he obviously could, since he averaged 41 on a much better athlete and all-nba defender (Majerle), and 36 on Drexler.

Also, people forget that MJ averaged 34/7/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989) in 16 games against Reggie Lewis (starting SG vs. starting SG), and 35/8/8 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404) in head-to-head matchups with DPOY Michael Cooper (who was far more athletic than Klay).. MJ also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnOf9okUdg&t=1m19s) superathlete SG Stacey Augmon..

Even at 33 years old, MJ averaged 30 ppg on 50% against Nick Anderson and Penny Hardaway in ECF.. Klay isn't near the athlete if ANY of these guys - Klay's athleticism compares more to a guy like Dale Ellis, who Jordan also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSGPvnbW3k&t=2m16s).

3ball
10-03-2016, 09:08 PM
Jumping=/defense


Dan Majerle was a multiple-time All-NBA defender and superior athlete to Klay Thompson.

Both of those things are facts...

Now regarding Jordan's performance - based his 36 against Drexler, and 41 against the superior athlete and defender Majerle, it's safe to assume he would get 50 on Klay..

Does that make sense?

Smoke117
10-03-2016, 09:11 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/30KRmRhU0f8Q0/giphy.gif


The 1991 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qpikcz&s=8#.V_L49-ArLIW) and 1992 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck) Philadelphia 76'er media guides show that Majerle got 70 dunks in 1991, and 72 dunks in 1992 (top 10% of the league) - this is far more than Klay's career high of 21 dunks in 2015.

Majerle's higher dunk total occurred when league-wide dunk frequency was lower, as shown here (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12555171&postcount=86) (1 dunk every 23.8 shots in 1992, compared to 1 every 22.6 shots in 2014).

Why is this important?... Because people were wondering whether MJ could average 50 on Klay - he obviously could, since he averaged 41 on Majerle, who was a superior athlete and all-nba defender.

Ah...there it is...knew this had to come back to MJ somehow.

3ball
10-03-2016, 09:30 PM
Ah...there it is...knew this had to come back to MJ somehow.


Based on Jordan's 36 against Drexler, and 41 against the superior athlete and defender Majerle, it's safe to assume he would get 50 on Klay.. :confusedshrug:

This would compel Kerr to try Iggy on Jordan, which would force Klay to the bench or to guard the bigger Pippen.. These are the kinds of problems caused by Jordan's destruction of his SG matchup - every opposing coach was forced to tinker with the lineup and use different positions to guard Jordan..

Otoh, coaches can just guard lebron with the opposing SF the entire game, and lebron will get 25 or 30, but rarely a 40 point game (1 every 15 playoff games for Lebron, compared to 1 every 3.89 games for Jordan)

FKAri
10-03-2016, 09:32 PM
So if Vince is an even better dunker than Dan, he would probably be able to shut down MJ. Thanks for this most informative thread.

Gifted Mind
10-03-2016, 09:34 PM
Based on Jordan's 36 against Drexler, and 41 against the superior athlete and defender Majerle, it's safe to assume he would get 50 on Klay.. :confusedshrug:

This honestly is one of the most illogical claims I have ever heard on ISH :lol

NBAGOAT
10-03-2016, 09:38 PM
So if Vince is an even better dunker than Dan, he would probably be able to shut down MJ. Thanks for this most informative thread.

:lol

fourkicks44
10-03-2016, 09:45 PM
This honestly is one of the most illogical claims I have ever heard on ISH :lol

You have to admit Jordan could drop 50 on Klay, no matter what logic he used to come up with the claim.

NBAGOAT
10-03-2016, 09:48 PM
You have to admit Jordan could drop 50 on Klay, no matter what logic he used to come up with the claim.

3ball's saying mj could average 50 in a series however. I doubt anyone has ever done that. :lol. Shaq has faced way worse defenders than Klay and he couldn't put up 50 in a series.

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:00 PM
3ball's saying mj could average 50 in a series however. I doubt anyone has ever done that. :lol. Shaq has faced way worse defenders than Klay and he couldn't put up 50 in a series.


Shaq is nowhere near the scorer that MJ was

And even if MJ doesn't average exactly 50, he'd average 45 or so, which he's done several times before (Jordan is the only player in modern history that averaged 40+ in a playoff series, and he's done it 5 times)

Also, the most important point is that MJ would force Coach Kerr try Iggy on him - this would force Klay to the bench or to guard the bigger Pippen.. Otoh, Lebron doesn't dominate his SF that severely, so you can guard Lebron with your SF all game long... Again - this NEVER happened for MJ - coaches always had to experiment guarding Jordan with other positions.

Spurs5Rings2014
10-03-2016, 10:00 PM
This is honestly ban worthy. It's just such a giant leap in logic (no pun) that it can't be mistaken for anything other than a troll at this point. Not only does dunking =/= defense, but also dunking/vertical or w/e =/= all athleticism. And then an arbitrary number like 50 just to make this even more bizarre.

:wtf:

Hoopz2332
10-03-2016, 10:03 PM
Ah...there it is...knew this had to come back to MJ somehow.


:oldlol:

Trollsmasher
10-03-2016, 10:03 PM
that mostly confirms the terrible late '80s/early '90s defense:lol :lol

thanks for ethering yourself

Hoopz2332
10-03-2016, 10:04 PM
So if Vince is an even better dunker than Dan, he would probably be able to shut down MJ. Thanks for this most informative thread.


:applause:

andgar923
10-03-2016, 10:05 PM
]Dan Majerle was a multiple-time All-NBA defender[/COLOR] and superior athlete to Klay Thompson.



Came here to say this.

I knew people would assume he was a stiff defender, but was actually a great defender even late in his career in the 2k era.

fourkicks44
10-03-2016, 10:06 PM
Jordan averaged 45 against the Heat in 92. It was a three game series, which obviously doesn't happen anymore. 50 ppg is not really absurd.

Yeah it is a 'woulda, coulda', hypothetical debate but definitely realistic in those terms.

Could Jordan drop 50+ in 3 games being guarded by Klay Thompson? I say yes.

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:10 PM
It's just such a giant leap in logic


even if MJ doesn't average exactly 50, he'd average 45 or so, which he's done before (Jordan is the only player in modern history that averaged 40+ in a playoff series, and he's done it 5 times)

Also, the most important point is that MJ would force Coach Kerr try Iggy on him - this would force Klay to the bench or to guard the bigger Pippen..

Otoh, Lebron doesn't dominate his SF that severely, so you can guard Lebron with your SF all game long... Again - this NEVER happened for MJ - coaches always had to experiment guarding Jordan with other positions.

SouBeachTalents
10-03-2016, 10:11 PM
The obsession and delusion is so strong he uses a discussion of Majerle & Klay's dunking ability to secretly (or what would seem secretive to someone with aspergers) have another LeBron/Jordan comparison

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ki2obCyAQS5WhFe/giphy.gif

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:13 PM
Not only does dunking =/= defense, but also dunking/vertical or w/e =/= all athleticism. And then an arbitrary number like 50 just to make this even more bizarre.



1) Klay has never made any all-defensive teams (Majerle made 2)

2) Klay gets about 15 dunks per season, whereas prime Majerle got 70+ (top 10% of NBA).


Based on the two facts above, Dan Majerle was a better defender and athlete than Klay Thompson.. That's pretty good backup and support for the claim, so I don't know what you're complaining about.

So considering Jordan averaged 36 on Drexler and 41 against the superior athlete and defender Majerle, it's very conceivable that he'd get 45+ on Klay, just like he did to Ron Harper in 1988 or Dennis Johnson in 1986.

FKAri
10-03-2016, 10:15 PM
3ball do you have any scoring extrapolations for MJ with Spud Webb guarding him? I can't imagine it looking good for MJ. Running the numbers myself using your dunking ability to scoring output formula, I'm getting MJ averaging 17.324 ppg in a series. Can I get a confirmation on that? If only the Hawks had analytics back then.

NBAGOAT
10-03-2016, 10:16 PM
The obsession and delusion is so strong he uses a discussion of Majerle & Klay's dunking ability to secretly (or what would seem secretive to someone with aspergers) have another LeBron/Jordan comparison

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ki2obCyAQS5WhFe/giphy.gif

it's basically a chance for him to make this point again with a new thread because he made this same claim like a week ago(http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418841&page=2 I remember since I argued with him). At least there, he backpedaled and said he would "at a minimum, he'd average the same 34 ppg that he averaged against all SG's for his entire playoff career" but 34ppg is a long way from 45ppg or 50ppg.

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:23 PM
At least there, he backpedaled and said he would "at a minimum, he'd average the same 34 ppg that he averaged against all SG's for his entire playoff career"


Jordan averaged 45 ppg against better players than Klay Thompson, which means he'd do it to Klay too..

But at a minimum, Jordan would average the same 34 ppg that he averaged against all SG's for his entire playoff career - this average forced every coach to experiment guarding him with other positions like the PG or SF..

Otoh, Lebron doesn't destroy his matchup nearly as much, so you can guard him with Iggy, Pierce or Hayward all game.. It's pretty simple, but you don't what this implies, so you play dumb

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:27 PM
3ball do you have any scoring extrapolations for MJ with Spud Webb guarding him? I can't imagine it looking good for MJ. Running the numbers myself using your dunking ability to scoring output formula, I'm getting MJ averaging 17.324 ppg in a series. Can I get a confirmation on that? If only the Hawks had analytics back then.


Hmm.. my system appears unresponsive

When I input those numbers, the only match found is Lebron's 2011 Finals

sdot_thadon
10-03-2016, 10:35 PM
http://www.mbc.net/default/mediaObject/Photos/2013/August/week-3/19-8-2013/untitled/THE-NUMBER-23_1024/original/96ad5578b9de944965667a93c8ce4b1688ca501a/THE-NUMBER-23_1024.jpg
I agree.

NBAGOAT
10-03-2016, 10:43 PM
Jordan averaged 45 ppg against better players than Klay Thompson, which means he'd do it to Klay too..

But at a minimum, Jordan would average the same 34 ppg that he averaged against all SG's for his entire playoff career - this average forced every coach to experiment guarding him with other positions like the PG or SF..

Otoh, Lebron doesn't destroy his matchup nearly as much, so you can guard him with Iggy, Pierce or Hayward all game.. It's pretty simple, but you don't what this implies, so you play dumb

Ofc I get what it implies. It's implies Jordan is a better scorer than lebron, something everyone besides a few trolls agree on and something you could argue in a much simpler and more logical way if you feel like you need to.

3ball
10-03-2016, 10:57 PM
Jordan averaged 45 against the Heat in 92. It was a three game series, which obviously doesn't happen anymore. 50 ppg is not really absurd.. He also got about 45 against the Celtics in 86' and Cavs in 88'

Could Jordan drop 50+ in 3 games being guarded by Klay Thompson? I say yes.


Jordan averaged 47/10/6 in Games 2-4 of the 1993 NBA Finals

Since he accomplished this against an All-NBA defender and athlete who ranked in the top 10% in dunks (Majerle), he'd do even better to an ordinary defender and athlete who barely ever dunks (Klay).

MiseryCityTexas
10-04-2016, 03:16 AM
They called him Thunder Dan for a reason. Most underrated white dunker in NBA history. He wasn't a bad player when he played for the Cavs during the Terrell Brandon era either. He was a really solid underrated player for the Cavs that one year.

Sarcastic
10-04-2016, 03:22 AM
I always thought Majerle and Klay was a good comparison. Two white guys with no real moves to the basket, but great shooters and defenders. I think Dan was the better player though.

zeerghit
10-04-2016, 03:50 AM
Good point.. Based on Jordan getting 41 on Majerle and 36 on Drexler, we can assume he would get 50 on Klay.

People forget that MJ averaged 34/7/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989) in 16 games against Reggie Lewis (starting SG vs. starting SG), and 35/8/8 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404) in head-to-head matchups with DPOY Michael Cooper (who was far more athletic than Klay).. MJ also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnOf9okUdg&t=1m19s) superathlete SG Stacey Augmon..

Even at 33 years old, MJ averaged 30 ppg on 50% against Nick Anderson and Penny Hardaway in ECF.. Klay's athleticism compares more to a guy like Dale Ellis, who Jordan also used to destroy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSGPvnbW3k&t=2m16s).


WTF?:roll: :roll: :roll:

3ball
10-04-2016, 04:13 AM
WTF?:roll: :roll: :roll:
Jordan averaged 47/10/6 in Games 2-4 of the 1993 NBA Finals

Since he accomplished this against an All-NBA defender and athlete who ranked in the top 10% in dunks (Majerle), he'd do even better against an ordinary defender and athlete who barely ever dunks (Klay).

MiseryCityTexas
10-04-2016, 04:13 AM
I always thought Majerle and Klay was a good comparison. Two white guys with no real moves to the basket, but great shooters and defenders. I think Dan was the better player though.


Klay Thomspon reminds me more of Drazen Petrovic.

zeerghit
10-04-2016, 04:20 AM
Jordan averaged 47/10/6 in Games 2-4 of the 1993 NBA Finals

Since he accomplished this against an All-NBA defender and athlete who ranked in the top 10% in dunks (Majerle), he'd do even better against an ordinary defender and athlete who barely ever dunks (Klay).

go to fuc*ing sleep u mofo, ur logic is dumb as f*ck

MP.Trey
10-04-2016, 06:03 AM
Yeah man. Number of dunks is also how I rate who's a better defender.

Dragonyeuw
10-04-2016, 07:16 AM
They called him Thunder Dan for a reason. Most underrated white dunker in NBA history. He wasn't a bad player when he played for the Cavs during the Terrell Brandon era either. He was a really solid underrated player for the Cavs that one year.

Rex Chapman was pretty good too, came out around the same time.

Paul George 24
10-04-2016, 08:24 AM
So if Vince is an even better dunker than Dan, he would probably be able to shut down MJ. Thanks for this most informative thread.
too bad,wince never made all nba defensive team :lol

Paul George 24
10-04-2016, 08:26 AM
that mostly confirms the terrible late '80s/early '90s defense:lol :lol

thanks for ethering yourself
lechoke zero dpoy :lol

Paul George 24
10-04-2016, 08:32 AM
WTF?:roll: :roll: :roll:
even irving can killed klayso badly :lol

Paul George 24
10-04-2016, 08:33 AM
Yeah man. Number of dunks is also how I rate who's a better defender.
even irving shitty klay :lol

Spurs5Rings2014
10-04-2016, 09:40 AM
even irving shitty klay :lol

Dude, Irving dropped 57 on Green and Leonard. He's one of the best scorers in the NBA.

Jasper
10-04-2016, 09:57 AM
Thompson is one of the faag brothers or Bytch brothers or whatever they are called.

Dan stood on his own and was called Sun tan Dan or Thunder Dan :milton

ralph_i_el
10-04-2016, 10:02 AM
Jordan averaged 47/10/6 in Games 2-4 of the 1993 NBA Finals

Since he accomplished this against an All-NBA defender and athlete who ranked in the top 10% in dunks (Majerle), he'd do even better against an ordinary defender and athlete who barely ever dunks (Klay).

>ordinary defender
>Klay Thompson

Nah. He's a stud 1-on-1 defender.

MJ is not averaging 50 ppg against the Warriors of the past two years.

SouBeachTalents
10-04-2016, 10:05 AM
>ordinary defender
>Klay Thompson

Nah. He's a stud 1-on-1 defender.

MJ is not averaging 50 ppg against the Warriors of the past two years.

But Klay can't dunk as well as Majerle. He'd average 50 easy

ralph_i_el
10-04-2016, 02:19 PM
Does MJ pay you to feel insecure for him you useless mongoloid.
:cry:

I'm pretty sure 3Ball is a team of Hornets interns who have to do this for hazing purposes.

Bosnian Sajo
10-04-2016, 02:58 PM
Dan Majerle was a multiple-time All-NBA defender and superior athlete to Klay Thompson.

Both of those things are facts...

Now regarding Jordan's performance - based his 36 against Drexler, and 41 against the superior athlete and defender Majerle, it's safe to assume he would get 50 on Klay..

Does that make sense?

"multiple time all nba defender"

He was on 2 2nd teams, you cuck.

Bankaii
10-04-2016, 03:34 PM
I still don't understand where Klay is coming from.
Iggy would most like guard MJ to offset his strength.
I'd rather take my chances with Klay on Pippen.

I'm assuming you used Klay in your dumb OP because Iggy is one of the greatest athletes in NBA history and that wouldn't help your agenda....

Gotterdammerung
10-04-2016, 05:32 PM
I watched the 1992-93 season, and I found out that Dan Majerle's legs were shot because by then he had played too many minutes. He became "Bomber Dan" cuz in order to keep up his production he took more three pointers.

By the 1993 Finals, he barely had any lateral quickness, so Jordan was beating him off the dribble easily. :oldlol:

fourkicks44
10-04-2016, 05:40 PM
I watched the 1992-93 season, and I found out that Dan Majerle's legs were shot because by then he had played too many minutes. He became "Bomber Dan" cuz in order to keep up his production he took more three pointers.

By the 1993 Finals, he barely had any lateral quickness, so Jordan was beating him off the dribble easily. :oldlol:

Could be said about just about everyone who ever guarded him. Not really a strange phenomenon or insight.

bdreason
10-04-2016, 09:25 PM
Get help.

MP.Trey
10-04-2016, 09:29 PM
But Klay can't dunk as well as Majerle. He'd average 50 easy
This man raises a good point.

ILLsmak
10-04-2016, 11:44 PM
Jumping=/defense

I think Dan was a good defender, wasn't he?

-Smak

!@#$%Vectors!@#
10-05-2016, 12:05 AM
Does MJ pay you to feel insecure for him you useless mongoloid.
:cry:


Seriously though. I think you need mental evaluation 2-ball

GrapeApe
10-05-2016, 12:13 AM
Dunk totals are as much a product of a player's offensive style and skill set as their athleticism. There's plenty of great athletes who aren't high volume dunkers. Majerele (in his younger days) was a rim attacker, whereas Klay's game is more perimeter oriented. Regardless, I don't see how dunking relates in any way to defense. How often does Tony Allen dunk? What about Gary Payton? Sidney Moncrief?

iamgine
10-05-2016, 01:15 AM
Defense is a team effort. Dan Majerle's team was the worst defensive team in the playoff in terms of allowing opponents' points. Luckily they're the best in scoring, kind of like mid 00's Suns.

Klay Thompson's team otoh, is one of the best in the NBA defensively. MJ aren't doing better against Klay.

Paul George 24
10-05-2016, 02:06 AM
>ordinary defender
>Klay Thompson

Nah. He's a stud 1-on-1 defender.

MJ is not averaging 50 ppg against the Warriors of the past two years.
DUN FORGOT GWS IS A TEAM WHO GIVEUP 100PPG LAST 2 YEAR,ALMOST AS WORST AS NASH'S SUNS:lol

Paul George 24
10-05-2016, 02:07 AM
Defense is a team effort. Dan Majerle's team was the worst defensive team in the playoff in terms of allowing opponents' points. Luckily they're the best in scoring, kind of like mid 00's Suns.

Klay Thompson's team otoh, is one of the best in the NBA defensively. MJ aren't doing better against Klay.

LOL,ONE OF THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM WHO GIVEUP 100PPG :roll:

Paul George 24
10-05-2016, 02:09 AM
Dunk totals are as much a product of a player's offensive style and skill set as their athleticism. There's plenty of great athletes who aren't high volume dunkers. Majerele (in his younger days) was a rim attacker, whereas Klay's game is more perimeter oriented. Regardless, I don't see how dunking relates in any way to defense. How often does Tony Allen dunk? What about Gary Payton? Sidney Moncrief?
EVEN IF IRVING KILLED KLAY IN NBA FINALS :lol
AND IRVING IS NOT EVEN 1/5 SCORER AS JORDAN EVER BEEN

Paul George 24
10-05-2016, 02:17 AM
Dude, Irving dropped 57 on Green and Leonard. He's one of the best scorers in the NBA.
IRVING BARELY AVG 22PPG IN HIS CAREER,EVEN JEANNINGS, MO WILLIAMS,SCORES 50,SO ?????? AND TP GRAUD IRVING MOST OF THE GAME :lol
FACT IS HE DIDN'T SCORES 57 AGAINST GREEN & KAWHI

3ball
06-09-2019, 12:40 AM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GlaringCreepyAztecant-max-1mb.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/26h0pswrpjgYgMvBe/giphy.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/16837fbcdc980ec1f0560e8fa53a5497/tumblr_nwt20jTBwu1sdydefo1_500.gif


Dunks Per Season



R DUMAS 1993:. 100 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6i9zef&s=8#.XPx2flNlCyW) (#13 in league)
MAJERLE 1992:... 71 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.XPx2rlNlCyV)

KLAY 2019:... 24 (career high)
DRAY 2019:... 25 (career high was 65 in 2017)


Conclusion:.MJ faced far greater athletes in the 93' Finals, and curry/klay/dray would be the least physically imposing core he ever faced.. and obviously, the 92' Portland was much more athletic than these Warriors too

Smoke117
06-09-2019, 12:47 AM
lol so now our resident crazy MJ obsessive is sucking Thunder Dan off to try and raise MJ up on some pedestal. You are as pathetic as you are nuts.

3ball
06-09-2019, 01:21 AM
lol so now our resident crazy MJ obsessive is sucking Thunder Dan off to try and raise MJ up on some pedestal. You are as pathetic as you are nuts.

Warriors are weak athletically.. :confusedshrug:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-05-2019/545xXv.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1a15554c428d0e5f494ca81d59c1ef59/tumblr_oqmsgvQdzC1sdydefo1_400.gif


No comparison... :facepalm

j3lademaster
06-09-2019, 01:39 AM
Warriors are weak athletically.. :confusedshrug:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-05-2019/545xXv.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1a15554c428d0e5f494ca81d59c1ef59/tumblr_oqmsgvQdzC1sdydefo1_400.gif


No comparison... :facepalmi know Chambers was just a shell of himself by 93, but we can

ImKobe
06-09-2019, 01:40 AM
Dunk totals are as much a product of a player's offensive style and skill set as their athleticism. There's plenty of great athletes who aren't high volume dunkers. Majerele (in his younger days) was a rim attacker, whereas Klay's game is more perimeter oriented. Regardless, I don't see how dunking relates in any way to defense. How often does Tony Allen dunk? What about Gary Payton? Sidney Moncrief?

Not much after this one :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le8rMnL56w8

Artillery
06-09-2019, 01:49 AM
This is the first time I've heard anyone try to correlate dunking ability with defense. It's so batshit insane. And what's sad is that he's not trolling. He actually believes this shit.

SpaceJam2
06-09-2019, 02:06 AM
So if Vince is an even better dunker than Dan, he would probably be able to shut down MJ. Thanks for this most informative thread.


and

JUST :rockon:

LIKE :dancin

THAT :hammertime:

tpols
06-09-2019, 02:14 AM
Yes.

And think about it... this is the bonafide 2nd option on a 73 win team.

thats GOAT teamwork magnification.

Imagine a kevin johnson type on this warriors team next to chef, a guy who could drop 30+ and completely break down & dismantle a defense... basically like a quicker kyrie.

Leviathon1121
06-09-2019, 08:20 AM
This is the first time I've heard anyone try to correlate dunking ability with defense. It's so batshit insane. And what's sad is that he's not trolling. He actually believes this shit.
Is it really? There are multiple threads a day tearing down 90

Meticode
06-09-2019, 08:39 AM
3ball has less brain cells than a happy pet pig. (proof in original post)

https://media.giphy.com/media/rdma0nDFZMR32/giphy.gif

3ball
06-09-2019, 10:20 AM
Is it really? There are multiple threads a day tearing down 90’s competition by LeBron stans claiming that defense today is superior based solely on athleticism, yet I don’t see you commenting on how ridiculous those are?
Exactly - I'm fighting fire with fire - apparently, mj's competition wasn't plumbers and janitors, and was infact superior athletes that dunked much better than the Warriors, who would be among the least physically-imposing teams that MJ ever faced
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egokiller
06-09-2019, 10:26 AM
Anyone who thinks that MJ on this raps team isn't dropping 50 ppg on a fully healthy GSW team is someone who never saw MJ and doesn't know shit about basketball.

Manny98
06-09-2019, 10:30 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/gjb1FPcL/download-1.jpg

j3lademaster
06-09-2019, 10:30 AM
Exactly - I'm fighting fire with fire - apparently, mj's competition wasn't plumbers and janitors, and was infact superior athletes that dunked much better than the Warriors, who would be among the least physically-imposing teams that MJ ever faced
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Poetry
06-09-2019, 10:37 AM
[QUOTE=j3lademaster]It

SpaceJam2
06-09-2019, 12:18 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/gjb1FPcL/download-1.jpg

Jordan's 10 ppg finals opponent

Tough era :lol

egokiller
06-09-2019, 02:14 PM
A guy like thunder dan being allowed to handcheck lebron is greater than any defense lebron has ever encountered. Hence the reason why MJ would average 50 a game these finals with no hand checking. :applause:

Manny98
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
LeBron would average 50ppg in a era where zones are illegal and guys like Jeff Hornacek are guarding you most nights

egokiller
06-09-2019, 02:21 PM
LeBron would average 50ppg in a era where zones are illegal and guys like Jeff Hornacek are guarding you most nights

Lebron wouldn't do shit against hand checking. 20 ppg max. He doesn't have a robust enough offensive skill set and his first step is so much slower than MJ's he'd be locked down most of the game. You aren't even stanning the right guy in your era. :roll:

Manny98
06-09-2019, 02:23 PM
Dominique Wilkins averaged 31ppg in that weak ass era i'm sure LeBron who's 50x better than him would be fine

egokiller
06-09-2019, 02:27 PM
Dominique Wilkins averaged 31ppg in that weak ass era i'm sure LeBron who's 50x better than him would be fine

Dominique would average 45 ppg in this soft ass watered down era.

Manny98
06-09-2019, 02:31 PM
Dominique would average 45 ppg in this soft ass watered down era.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

bison
06-09-2019, 02:41 PM
Thunder Dan got his nickname for his dunking. Klay is just an average athlete.

Thunder Dan got his nickname way before that, for the way he

bison
06-09-2019, 02:43 PM
Dominique would average 45 ppg in this soft ass watered down era.

My anus instinctively clenches at the thought of prime Dominique having access to lebron

egokiller
06-09-2019, 02:53 PM
[QUOTE=bison]My anus instinctively clenches at the thought of prime Dominique having access to lebron

90sgoat
06-09-2019, 04:21 PM
Majerle would be the most popular SG if he played today.